Devising a new Union stat- Measured Union Activity

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#1 hendrix29
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Measured Union Activity is a stat I think we should all decide on to decide the activity of a union. Some unions have thousands upon thousands of members, and are active, but not as much as a union that has 400 members, and that should be resolved. I think we should start out with this formula:

Union Posts+ Union Views/ Total Members

If there's anything incorrect about that, or something you'd like to add, let me know. Meanwhile, I'll be having fun playing with this.

EDIT- My union had a MUA of 132.76, and I'm trying to see what the norm. is for most unions.

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#2 theeman2000
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that is a pretty nifty formula. Club Whatever MUA is 116.3

HINT: To avoid confusing people, put union posts + union views in Parentheses like this:

(Union Posts+ Union Views) / Total Members

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#3 hendrix29
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my fault, and I also screwed up here, because I realized that unions will no matter what have more posts with age, so I'll change the formula to:

(Union Posts + Union Views) / (Total Members + Days as a Union)

I think this is a suitable formula, and what's your union's score for this? Mine is... 115.33.

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#4 alx222000
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This is my fault, isn't it?:P

Not sure about adding members and days in such a simple way, but there's not much you can do.

Creators' Guild = 80.01

Soldiers of Wii = 13.88 (Once was active, it got to level 8, so it's on top of the list when you look for Wii unions, which means we still get new members joining each week even though it's near-dead)

This is still affected by averages, it's not going to show current activity, just the average over the unions lifespan.

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#5 nav_auron
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I think it's a bit hard to say total members, cos not all views are from members...

But, nice way of summing it up, anyways...

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#6 hendrix29
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This is my fault, isn't it?:P

Not sure about adding members and days in such a simple way, but there's not much you can do.

Creators' Guild = 80.01

Soldiers of Wii = 13.88 (Once was active, it got to level 8, so it's on top of the list when you look for Wii unions, which means we still get new members joining each week even though it's near-dead)

This is still affected by averages, it's not going to show current activity, just the average over the unions lifespan.

alx222000

well, that wasn't what I was aiming for, that's why it's called Measured Union Activity. Anyway here are a few more unions that I measured:

Union Leader Council- 107.11

Club Whatever- 104.76

Game Designers Universe- 60.75

Gamespot User Fellowship Union- 1251.10(GASP!)

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Man, this is some idea youve got, i suggest taking it further, hey please PM me about this, i want to talk to you about something.

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#8 hendrix29
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sure, I can't PM you right now though, I have to leave for the bus...
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#9 serbsta69
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sure, I can't PM you right now though, I have to leave for the bus...hendrix29

Ok, thats cool. I just wanted to take it to Site Enhancements so they might do something about it and use it in Unions V2, i think its something which would work. Also, i was thinking about doing a Top 25 kind of thing maybe once a month.

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#10 Lazdude
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Sounds promising...can you explain more?
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#11 deactivated-6016f3a1e8420
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By union posts you mean TOTAL UNION posts? If so how can you check?
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#12 hendrix29
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[QUOTE="hendrix29"]sure, I can't PM you right now though, I have to leave for the bus...serbsta69

Ok, thats cool. I just wanted to take it to Site Enhancements so they might do something about it and use it in Unions V2, i think its something which would work. Also, i was thinking about doing a Top 25 kind of thing maybe once a month.

well, top 25 would be a bit tricky for this sort of thing, but I was planning on putting it on site enhancements myself.

Sounds promising...can you explain more?Lazdude

I'm not really sure what you want me to explain...it's right there. And Ultrazero, total union posts should be shown on your favorite boards if you have any.

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#13 serbsta69
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By union posts you mean TOTAL UNION posts? If so how can you check?UltraZero

Well the only way i know of is by adding that union board to your favorites and then opening up the forums tab at the top, it shows you the amount of posts it has.

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#14 -Masterchef-
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Console Debate Union's at 391
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#15 uas-2001
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It's been a while since i posted but this formulae interestersted me, for the Ultim@te G@miNg Uni0n i got 178.6
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#16 hendrix29
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Actually, yours is 157, but still very high.
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#17 wallymartin
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88.5. We get plenty of activity, but there are many, many, many who never post.
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#18 maa4208
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My union is really dead.....:(

The score for Fantasy Threads was 62.5. :| I'm going to go and cry in a corner now. (:P j/k)

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#19 hendrix29
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lol, it does depend when you start the union though, because if you start before union views were started, then it takes away from your union. Also, this is more per member stuff, so if you have a lot of members, then your union will suffer. So, I need to find a way to get it so that days don't affect it as much.
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#20 Will47
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The DS fan union 54 (I am open to any help.............please!!)

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#21 alx222000
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lol, it does depend when you start the union though, because if you start before union views were started, then it takes away from your union. hendrix29
True, and there's nothing you can do to take the figures from when when union views started. Both my unions started over a year ago, and probably had the most activity before the unions views appeared.
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#22 hendrix29
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exactly, which is why I need a more accurate figure. This is great to determine activity per member of a union, with relatively new unions. Otherwise, you'll need a different stat, which I'm still trying to come up with.
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#23 alx222000
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Hmm, do we know which day the union views started counting?

EDIT:

[Union Posts / (Total Members + Days as a Union)] + [Union Views / (Total Members + Days as a Union since views started)]

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#24 Lazdude
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Maybe we should push for this as a global standard.
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#25 hendrix29
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yeah, that's the problem, no one knows what day they started, so maybe we should go with Jan. 1st of this year, because that's close to when it started.
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#26 alx222000
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If you asked the right admin, they might be able to tell you.
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#27 serbsta69
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Maybe we should push for this as a global standard.Lazdude

Yea, but the formula needs to be slightly revised before it will go anywhere.

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#28 nav_auron
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Yeah...like I said...Union Views aren't made just by members...
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#29 hendrix29
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Yeah...like I said...Union Views aren't made just by members...nav_auron

but it still shows the union's activity...

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#30 Will47
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Ya members or not it show ativity.

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#31 Lazdude
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Well since it involves maths I'm too lazy to calculate my union's activity.
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#32 serbsta69
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Well since it involves maths I'm too lazy to calculate my union's activity.Lazdude

Lol, its not too hard man.

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#33 hendrix29
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yeah, don't shy away from math, it's quite simple.
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#34 nav_auron
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I guess...Haven't bothered to work out my MUA, but I'll get around to it...
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#35 Davidhye
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crysis union - 127

Graphic Studio: 478.78

serbsta69

WHAT? O.o that's crazy dude! you guys have 30 pages of threads!

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#36 uas-2001
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Ultim@te G@miNg Uni0n is now 543 :D
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#37 uas-2001
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Actually I did it with the wrong formula.

I now get 905. Am I doing something wrong? :?

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#38 Jackov
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From this formula: (Union Posts + Union Views) / (Total Members + Days as a Union)

The MUA for the World Wrestling Everything union is (rounded off to) 277 as of Thursday, March 13, 2008 @ 1:53am CT.

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#39 kcwsk8
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this is a great idea and formula. we need to use this more often
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#40 TheForgotten0ne
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I used the formula and I got 116...

This dosen't show union activity, it's shows overall union activity...

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#41 kansasdude2009
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Nintendo Dream is at 329.6.

As much as I would LOVE to say that we are among the most active Unions, we are not. Sure, we have good activity, but we average about 15-20 posts a day. :\

I would say that this is a bit flawed and that there is no real way to measure activity. But, not a bad idea.

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#42 TheForgotten0ne
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Nintendo Dream is at 329.6.

As much as I would LOVE to say that we are among the most active Unions, we are not. Sure, we have good activity, but we average about 15-20 posts a day. :\

I would say that this is a bit flawed and that there is no real way to measure activity. But, not a bad idea.

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329 isn't bad.

But the number get so much lower when your an old union.

15-20 posts is not bad for a union at the moment. Most unions have less, some can be happy with 10 each day. If I were a nintendo fan I would join and help you, but I'm not so, hehe.

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#43 uas-2001
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I thought I would bring this thread back to see how union activity has changed and also for people to check their own unions if they haven't already. Remember, the formula is:

(Union Posts + Union Views) / (Total Members + Days as a Union)

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#44 lancelot200
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I take it that's total union post and total union views.

I was starting to calculate, but days as a union is too much of a hassle.

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#45 papermariofan57
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My union is at 354.15:| Considering activity right now it's good.
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#46 uas-2001
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I take it that's total union post and total union views.

I was starting to calculate, but days as a union is too much of a hassle.

lancelot200

Just do it roughly. I get 245. Probably because we've been around for over 3 years.

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#47 daxter223
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calculate the number of posts in the morning , calculate the number of posts at night before you go to sleep or at a regular hour divide one by the other and you get your average post ratio :)
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#48 uas-2001
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I doubt anybody could be bothered :P
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#49 Drazule
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How do you find total posts?
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#50 uas-2001
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You need to add the forum to your GameSpot favourites. Then it should be listed in the Forums section of GameSpot with the total posts next to it.