Dawn of War: War Hammer 40000 II

Dawn of War War Hammer 40000II will be released in 2009. The long awaited sequel to the "best RTS game of the year" has been long awaited. Would you get it though?

Things will be changing, such as New weapon Unlocks.

Units will get levels.

New multiplayer Modes

New Race.

Lot's of new things to be unvailed, but are they worth 50 dollars at Best Buy?

absolutely :)

Never played a Warhammer game in my life.

DoW2 is my second must have pc game next year.  My friends and I played the original and its xpacks to death, especially dark crusade which is still my all time favorite rts until dow2 hits in feb and replaces it :)

Never played a Warhammer game in my life.

rikhan_z

Maybe its time you did!

yep its going to be bug stompin time soon, as you know everyone and there brother will be nids.

Im going to hate to see a buncha races go tho with the old game.  Hopefully they'll expand like last time.

Aye yeah, the new race is the Tyranids or something like that isnt it? They are supposed to be over powered as although they lack unit types they can just over run with brute force and speed I believe?

It sounds interesting but I really need to get back into Dawn of War before getting this.

Aye yeah, the new race is the Tyranids or something like that isnt it? They are supposed to be over powered as although they lack unit types they can just over run with brute force and speed I believe?

It sounds interesting but I really need to get back into Dawn of War before getting this.

Garfield360UK

Ya they were the race the zerg from starcraft were originally modelled after.  And ya in table top on paper they look unstopable, in reality tho if you have the right units on the field to counter them they arent as bad as most people think.  That and most people dont realize that spore pods (deepstrike) are an optional rule that takes the conscent of the other player involved and this is where nids get REALLY powerful.

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Never played a Warhammer game in my life.

kevinjia32

Maybe its time you did!

I think I should... I played Warcraft 3... I should take the leap to try out this game

so i just kinda realized theres going to be virtually no buildings in the game (that you as a player can build anyway). Certain hero's look to make turrets, but thats about it.  The game doesnt even look to include builder units.  There are no tech buildings seemingly either.  Will be interesting to see a game about pure battles like mark of chaos, but the ability to reinforce and upgrade troops on the fly.

Its probly going to force alot more teamwork with people too, as players wont be off messing around with thier bases when their buddies are getting mauled.  I cant wait for this game to come out, i cant play dow1 right now because of the router im on, and i need my rts fix!!

so i just kinda realized theres going to be virtually no buildings in the game (that you as a player can build anyway). Certain hero's look to make turrets, but thats about it.  The game doesnt even look to include builder units.  There are no tech buildings seemingly either.  Will be interesting to see a game about pure battles like mark of chaos, but the ability to reinforce and upgrade troops on the fly.

Its probly going to force alot more teamwork with people too, as players wont be off messing around with thier bases when their buddies are getting mauled.  I cant wait for this game to come out, i cant play dow1 right now because of the router im on, and i need my rts fix!!

Crush_Project

Hhaa.

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so i just kinda realized theres going to be virtually no buildings in the game (that you as a player can build anyway). Certain hero's look to make turrets, but thats about it.  The game doesnt even look to include builder units.  There are no tech buildings seemingly either.  Will be interesting to see a game about pure battles like mark of chaos, but the ability to reinforce and upgrade troops on the fly.

Its probly going to force alot more teamwork with people too, as players wont be off messing around with thier bases when their buddies are getting mauled.  I cant wait for this game to come out, i cant play dow1 right now because of the router im on, and i need my rts fix!!

kevinjia32

Hhaa.

Thank god everyone has boardband now... I would enjoy those epic battles

Does anyone know any good tips for playing tau? I tried playing them and got ownednealsdaman

I am in the same boat, although using the big Star Wars type hover ships does work, if you can get the one with the long range missile attack, a few of them can take out one building very quickly.

Hmm, I have not played the original game itself, I got the anthology so play Dark Soul expansion for all the units it has etc. I reccomend building strong troops up with anti infantry guns. Dreadnoughts are great for close combat and also for ripping up a base. Try taking out their WAAAAGH banners first as they can be a pain when they are constantly shooting. Also capture as much of the strategy points as possible to restrict their resource rate. Terminator squads are a good idea along with a force commander and just focus on strong units and get them together rather than have weaker units as the Orks tend to wipe out the weaker sides quite quickly unless you can move around fast. Garfield360UK

Thanks for the respionse. Nicking resource points from the enemy does seem to work, though less so in the original as it seems to be story driven. Eldar up next followed by Chaos, if the FMV's are an indicator. All the orks are now dead, though bosses are really tough and the giant dino things orkies have are flippin stupidly hard.

True, but their artillery is agile and quick.

It's hard to win with elder unless your experienced with them. I finally mastered Tau. When your tau you have to slowly push forward and because you can't build turrets(other than listening posts)you have to leave some units in reserve in case they attack.nealsdaman

I actually find the Elder (once you know what you are doing) are great for quick hit and runs. The hardest are the Imp. Guards. Impossible to deal with, unless you want to spend the game huddled in your barracks. 

[QUOTE="nealsdaman"]It's hard to win with elder unless your experienced with them. I finally mastered Tau. When your tau you have to slowly push forward and because you can't build turrets(other than listening posts)you have to leave some units in reserve in case they attack.kevinjia32

I actually find the Elder (once you know what you are doing) are great for quick hit and runs. The hardest are the Imp. Guards. Impossible to deal with, unless you want to spend the game huddled in your barracks. 

I agree, Imperial Guard just seem to get ripped up every time I use them, their units seem very weak and the basalisk takes too long to reload to be effective without support.

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[QUOTE="nealsdaman"]It's hard to win with elder unless your experienced with them. I finally mastered Tau. When your tau you have to slowly push forward and because you can't build turrets(other than listening posts)you have to leave some units in reserve in case they attack.Garfield360UK

I actually find the Elder (once you know what you are doing) are great for quick hit and runs. The hardest are the Imp. Guards. Impossible to deal with, unless you want to spend the game huddled in your barracks. 

I agree, Imperial Guard just seem to get ripped up every time I use them, their units seem very weak and the basalisk takes too long to reload to be effective without support.

You have to wait for their the...damn whats this name....blade something, I duno. By the time you get there you've been destroyed. 

Well sorta, but you said as if you can only win if you have that one unit, I don't wanna start a fight here.nealsdaman

Lol. But is is true. The BaneBlade is the most powerful unit in the game. 

Wraith Lords seem to go down easy to dreadnaughts. The Avatar is hard though. Imperial guard do get the only unit that can upgrade to fire at scouts who are hidden though. Imperial Guard grenade launchers are indirect fire and can for some reason be targetted at turf rather than enemies, so you can take out them pesky snipers that you cannot see. Oh, and the baneblade may be the most powerful vehicle in the game, but the amount of resource you have to put into building one sort of balances this out when compared to the tank units of other races.pai-may

Thats absolutely true about the BaneBlade. But I think it is the only perk to the Imp. Guard. 

I think the ability to shoot invisible snipers is also pretty good. Grenade them to death. No other race can do this and ever since Winter Assault, snipers have been the single most annoying unit in the game as they can in this game onwards, fire while cloaked. Indirect fire is the imperial guards strength. Like the eldar, they do not respond well to close quarters and they cannot bring the weight of firepower to bear that other races can. However, they are cheap as hell and my housemate reckons they are probably one of the best races in the game if you are willing to be patient with them and learn their nuances. I'm not that sort of patient, hence why I don't do very well with this sort of game. (Unless of course I'm playing orks. Dakka Dakka.