Most Despised Faction Leader

First generation leaders sorry (at least from the game and not from history)

zhang jiao

i mean really what a mumbo jumbo he had

If Sun Quan was up here, I would have voted for him.  Of all the faction leaders, he is the only one that does absolutly none of the work himself, plus he is a talentless hack who leached off the inheritence of his father and even his brother Ce, yet somehow gets people to follow him.  Must be a case of "my country right or wrong" for them due to Sun Quan's monopolization of that region of China.JeffSteel

he speak from a very good view

If Sun Quan was up here, I would have voted for him. Of all the faction leaders, he is the only one that does absolutly none of the work himself, plus he is a talentless hack who leached off the inheritence of his father and even his brother Ce, yet somehow gets people to follow him. Must be a case of "my country right or wrong" for them due to Sun Quan's monopolization of that region of China.JeffSteel

I mean if Zhuge Liang was up in Favorite Faction LEader I'd vote for him since he was the LEader of Shu.. I mean Zhu

Because i beleive he did all of the work himslef and even the book said "He handled millitary, economic, social, and millitary affairs and all power went to him" So Liu Bei was a Faction LEader in the 1st and 2nd half of the book but then what about the rest. So if its something Liu Bei is the one who barely stopped doing action

And diditn Sun Quan himself battle Zhang Liao singlehandely?

sun quan lacks any charisma whatsoever, he's just the "third sun" and is boring. harden007

come to thinkof it every one had hes own charmisma except him

sun quan lacks any charisma whatsoever, he's just the "third sun" and is boring. harden007

[QUOTE="harden007"]sun quan lacks any charisma whatsoever, he's just the "third sun" and is boring. jeffhardy141

Too bad he didn't have charisma, which is what matters for a leader.

[QUOTE="jeffhardy141"][QUOTE="harden007"]sun quan lacks any charisma whatsoever, he's just the "third sun" and is boring. JeffSteel

Too bad he didn't have charisma, which is what matters for a leader.

Well ill end this discusion cause its not like Jeff will come in and keep on posting

[QUOTE="JeffSteel"]

[QUOTE="jeffhardy141"][QUOTE="harden007"]sun quan lacks any charisma whatsoever, he's just the "third sun" and is boring. jeffhardy141

Too bad he didn't have charisma, which is what matters for a leader.

Well ill end this discusion cause its not like Jeff will come in and keep on posting

You are wise to concede defeat in this matter. Sun Quan has no defense, whatsoever.

[QUOTE="jeffhardy141"][QUOTE="JeffSteel"]

[QUOTE="jeffhardy141"][QUOTE="harden007"]sun quan lacks any charisma whatsoever, he's just the "third sun" and is boring. JeffSteel

Too bad he didn't have charisma, which is what matters for a leader.

Well ill end this discusion cause its not like Jeff will come in and keep on posting

You are wise to concede defeat in this matter. Sun Quan has no defense, whatsoever.

I diditn give up i just knew that the next day you will just stop coming just like in the 4th book Shu just stopped winning

[QUOTE="JeffSteel"][QUOTE="jeffhardy141"][QUOTE="JeffSteel"]

[QUOTE="jeffhardy141"][QUOTE="harden007"]sun quan lacks any charisma whatsoever, he's just the "third sun" and is boring. jeffhardy141

Too bad he didn't have charisma, which is what matters for a leader.

Well ill end this discusion cause its not like Jeff will come in and keep on posting

You are wise to concede defeat in this matter. Sun Quan has no defense, whatsoever.

I diditn give up i just knew that the next day you will just stop coming just like in the 4th book Shu just stopped winning

face it hardy, not everyone likes sun quan. I've played him in DW and in ROTK mostly because I like wu, but sun quan could have been better. his intelligence should have been played up more. At least I enjoy laughing at the yellow turban guy. 

harden is right

and i do believe that jeffsteel Witt's are greater then yours hardy

harden is right

and i do believe that jeffsteel Witt's are greater then yours hardy

fize4ever

You shouldnt be talking of intelligence

we're going to have to change the name of the union to the Flamers Union

we're going to have to change the name of the union to the Flamers Union

Bruneauinfo

we're going to have to change the name of the union to the Flamers Union

 

Bruneauinfo

haha :lol:.

unfortunately what your saying is true :(

[QUOTE="Bruneauinfo"]

we're going to have to change the name of the union to the Flamers Union

fize4ever

haha :lol:.

unfortunately what your saying is true :(

Did Harden specifically say to you and not us that the name is going to change???

Lol jk :P

From those choices I had to pick Yuan Shao. I can't stand his I'm-better-than-you attitude.Mr_Buttman

But what if he truely was better than you?

[QUOTE="Mr_Buttman"]From those choices I had to pick Yuan Shao. I can't stand his I'm-better-than-you attitude.harden007

But what if he truely was better than you?

IT means that he means Yuan Shao is better than you

well Yuan Shao did wear golden armor in the game. that might make some really good armor.

Zhang Jiao, always hated his moveset and his voice goes from funny to annoying.

Would like koei to work on making Dong a more impressive figure and change Sun Quan from Mr Bland of Blandsville into the historically entertaining figure that he was. Tries to burn Zhang Zhao out of the house so he can apologise to his adviser, hunts tigers barehanded, a charismatic figure who kept Wu's difficult officer core under control until old age dimmed his abilities, had massive drinking parties. Skilled ruler and warrior too yet koei somehow make this man so bland, watching paint dry is more fun. 

yeah, the game tend to make it appear that the 3 Kingdoms era was a year or two long when in reality it was many, many decades long with many interesting characters. they could probably make an entire game up just around Sun Quan.

yeah, the game tend to make it appear that the 3 Kingdoms era was a year or two long when in reality it was many, many decades long with many interesting characters. they could probably make an entire game up just around Sun Quan.

Bruneauinfo

And thats saying something

so, if they made an epic game where you played, say, Sun Quan - with average gameplay of 20 hours to complete - with say two or three unlockables that you could replay the entire game with, say, Zhou Tai and Zhou Yu, that you would call the game an epic fail?!?!? are you mad!!??!!Bruneauinfo

1. It will be plain Shu

2. It WILL be ZHao Yun

3. IT will be 8 hours

All this bumping is giving me a headacheharden007

yuck to all games less than 10 hours of gameplay. Bruneauinfo

so, if they made an epic game where you played, say, Sun Quan - with average gameplay of 20 hours to complete - with say two or three unlockables that you could replay the entire game with, say, Zhou Tai and Zhou Yu, that you would call the game an epic fail?!?!? are you mad!!??!!Bruneauinfo

That game is called Kessen 2, where Liu Bei sets out on a quest to save Diao Chan from the clutches of the evil warlord Cao Cao.

... and no, I'm not kidding. Also, thread unlocked, it's not like this topic is years old or has yowi art in it. :P

[QUOTE="Bruneauinfo"]so, if they made an epic game where you played, say, Sun Quan - with average gameplay of 20 hours to complete - with say two or three unlockables that you could replay the entire game with, say, Zhou Tai and Zhou Yu, that you would call the game an epic fail?!?!? are you mad!!??!!JeffSteel

That game is called Kessen 2, where Liu Bei sets out on a quest to save Diao Chan from the clutches of the evil warlord Cao Cao.

... and no, I'm not kidding. Also, thread unlocked, it's not like this topic is years old or has yowi art in it. :P

But ya anyway we know KEssen was talked about for recent time

as long as officers are posting we can post away in locked threads

From those choices I had to pick Yuan Shao. I can't stand his I'm-better-than-you attitude.Mr_Buttman

Zhang Jiao because he basically just wanted to start a civil war. "What a plonker!".

Although i guess it can be argued that the others took part in civil war too.........well what I mean is that Zhang's only real goal was to get followers and start a war for the sake of a war.

Hisagi don't bump old threads.harden007

So what do we do with this one? Keep it up? Lock it? Delete it?

worship it!!! cause i started it!!!

bwahahahahah!!!!!

in the future just copy the idea and start a new one.

worship it!!! cause i started it!!!

bwahahahahah!!!!!

in the future just copy the idea and start a new one.

 

Bruneauinfo

Great idea. :P

I'm not worshipping it though. :P

well since the topic is kind of old most of us can't vote on it now and our opinions may have changed.

well since the topic is kind of old most of us can't vote on it now and our opinions may have changed.

 

Bruneauinfo

Haha! I can still vote. :P

If Sun Quan was up here, I would have voted for him.  Of all the faction leaders, he is the only one that does absolutly none of the work himself, plus he is a talentless hack who leached off the inheritence of his father and even his brother Ce, yet somehow gets people to follow him.  Must be a case of "my country right or wrong" for them due to Sun Quan's monopolization of that region of China.JeffSteel

Completely agree with you there. But if i had to choose one of the leaders mentioned here, It would have to be Yuan Shao.

[QUOTE="JeffSteel"]If Sun Quan was up here, I would have voted for him.  Of all the faction leaders, he is the only one that does absolutly none of the work himself, plus he is a talentless hack who leached off the inheritence of his father and even his brother Ce, yet somehow gets people to follow him.  Must be a case of "my country right or wrong" for them due to Sun Quan's monopolization of that region of China.asparagusx

Completely agree with you there. But if i had to choose one of the leaders mentioned here, It would have to be Yuan Shao.

Ah?  You are indeed wise in the ways of politics.