How big of a deal do you find video game violence to be? (Weekly Poll)

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#1 REVOLUTIONfreak
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This is a very opinionated matter, and everyone seems to have there own take on the issue. With the recent ban of Manhunt 2 in the UK, this topic has once again been brought up. Is violence in video games overdramatized? Do they teach kids/adults how to kill to a certain extent? Do you think that video games really do affect a person's mental state?

Let's hear what you guys have to say.

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#2 bededog
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I don't really mind violence in games as long as it has some point to the game. A game doesn't need tons of gore and blood to be good, but it can help depending on what the game is trying to achieve. I do think some games go a little to far, and I don't like games that add violence just to have violence. And videogame violence is no worse then anyother form of entertaiment that has violence in it. Everyday TV, newspapers, and the internet are ablaze with news of violence around the world. I don't think it is just videogames that contibute to the violent nature of some people. Violence is all around us in this day of tech. And the media gloritizes violence. Honestly videogames are better then TV when it comes to violence. All the news on TV is about violent stuff, they can't get enough of it. So no, videogames don't have a violence problem, we as humans do. We are attracted to violence by our very nature and the media knows that so they make violent things.
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#3 ihateelvis
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Not much to say on the subject, except for the fact that violence is everywhere, and video games are no different. People who target video games specifically *cough*JackThompson*cough* really need to open their eyes and realize that video games aren't the sole cause of violence in teens. In fact, there isn't even any hardcore evidence that points to anything, so how can we even know if video games are the cause of anything?

People need to lighten up and spend their time worrying about other things instead of violence in video games, as it's no different than any other kind of violence that can be seen by anyone.

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#4 SHUTupNrocK8
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Hate to break this to your moms and my mom guys, but violence go with game great. I think with out it you would have such a massive amount of gamers like we do today. But, not always do you need violence like Mario Games are very fun, mainly Nintendo games attracts younger players and the people who've been enjoy the nintendo franchise their whole life like me. But in other franchises like Xbox 360 and Playstation their are many game that are very violence. From chainsawing foes in Gears of War to Head shoting your opponent in Halo, it really doesn't get any better. In Rainbow Six: Vegas ... All they do is shot, curse, and uh ... kill. But with all this it really gets the gamers in the game and makes in feel better when theres more violence in the game. I don't mind it because I just play the game as it is ... A game! But, then you have people who blame video games for the violence we have today on the streets, which is totally misinterpited. But that's a whole different story. All I really say is that game are always going to have violence in it, just depends how much. I don't think it's a big deal at all. With out it, games like GoW, RB6:V, Halo, Resident Evil, etc. wouldn't be some of the high rated games.
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#5 lebanese_boy
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I think all of the violence in videogames protest is complete BS and useless. There's violence in books, movies and on the TV so if you want to remove it from games, remove from everywhere else. I actually encourage violence in videogames (in some way). Allow me to explain:

Some say that violence in videogames is what causes many violence crimes such as (the best example yet) school shooting. While in some cases I can understand that the player is a homicide maniac and wants more and more violence. In that sort of case you need to remove anything that concerns violence from this person and not only the games. But in some cases (what you don't hear on TV), violent videogames help stress out somebody who's violent and as an example I have a story that hapenned to me once;

I was at school (Grade 8 ) and on that day I was stressed out because I failed miserably an exam because of a Friend who ''helped'' me study (he basically teached me the wrong stuff by purpose). So when I got back home I was really stressed and just felt like punching him non-stop next time I see him ... what has calmed me down ? Super Smash Bros Melee ! While not a too violent game it still has some violence in it and so playing many matches just calmed me down. If you wanna know the rest of the story ..... I made my (now ex-) friend fail his final exam nd thus his year :lol:, the same way he did for me.

So what I mean is that violent videogames aren't a big deal like many people like Jack Thompson (Satan) like to show it. But when you give it to mentally unstabled people, you're not really suppoed to be surprised :wink:. Don't you find it strange that only mentally unstable killers have been linked to videogames ? Well DON'T GIVE THEM THOSE GAMES !!! THEY CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD & BAD !

I'm sorry for the CAPS but I really had to take that out :P.

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#6 789shadow
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Personally,I think we need to have a game where you can chainsaw Jack Thompson's head off.:P:twisted:Also,every single parent who is whining to these lawyers and government officials complaining that video games corrupted their kid is a hippocrit.Why??Because they are still in total control of what their kids buy.And now I've just forgotten what I was going to say.......

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#7 Majura
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I voted 'overdramatized' in the way that it should be controlled by the market. This is a parent issue. Parents should know what their children play, read and see. Their is a very simple way to do so: READ THE BACKTEXT! Simply by doing so, you get a rating, and a short summary on the content. No need to 24:7 monitor your kid. Just this.

When it comes to me, I say that nothing in a game could influence my behavior, even something as violent as Manhunt2. But I gave you this story on parents because it might influence children who just hit puberty or even younger. If I had chidren, my statement would be: 'They are not even allowed to know about the existance of anything like Manhunt 2.'

That's the only part I can sympatize with people who say games are dangerous. But actual outlawing a game is a bit over the top. Parent are responsible on this matter, not companies or governments.

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#8 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Actually, lebanese_boy, when I dida thesis paper on this subject last year I read an article in a book that claimed that Super Smash Bros. was among one of the "dirty dozen" most violent video games. Of course, given that that article was written about five years ago, chances are that game no longer qualifies for that list :P

Anyway, my take on it is this: Its a problem, no doubt, but not any more so a problem than violence in TV or even in a book or painting. Your getting the same messages, just in a different way... isn't that the whole point of things like television anyway? Its essentially a book with images to display a storyline instead of words/pictures.

This is a problem that needs to be controlled, but only by the ESRB, or any other ratings board in the world. The government doesn't need to put this matter into their hands unless something drastically bad happens that gives us all a wake up call. To be honest, I agree with the decision to ban Manhunt 2 in the UK and Ireland if it really is as violent as it is depicted to be. Video game violence is something that we can control on our own, as parents, gamers, and individuals. The only people that can't determine what is real and what is fake after all, are those that are insane anyway. Right?

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#9 lebanese_boy
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I voted 'overdramatized' in the way that it should be controlled by the market. This is a parent issue. Parents should know what their children play, read and see. Their is a very simple way to do so: READ THE BACKTEXT! Simply by doing so, you get a rating, and a short summary on the content. No need to 24:7 monitor your kid. Just this.

When it comes to me, I say that nothing in a game could influence my behavior, even something as violent as Manhunt2. But I gave you this story on parents because it might influence children who just hit puberty or even younger. If I had chidren, my statement would be: 'They are not even allowed to know about the existance of anything like Manhunt 2.'

That's the only part I can sympatize with people who say games are dangerous. But actual outlawing a game is a bit over the top. Parent are responsible on this matter, not companies or governments.

Majura

We can both agree on one thing: PARENTS ARE RESPONSABLE FOR THEIR KIDS

Compagnies have taken way too much responsability lately and frankly I think they can't anything more then just put the rating. Console producers have even inputed a program so that Parents can control what their kids play, I really can't see how much they can do more, they've already did a fantastic job. Now it's up for retailers to not sell M rated games to minor and for parents to actually look afte their kids.

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#10 lebanese_boy
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Actually, lebanese_boy, when I dida thesis paper on this subject last year I read an article in a book that claimed that Super Smash Bros. was among one of the "dirty dozen" most violent video games. Of course, given that that article was written about five years ago, chances are that game no longer qualifies for that list :P

Anyway, my take on it is this: Its a problem, no doubt, but not any more so a problem than violence in TV or even in a book or painting. Your getting the same messages, just in a different way... isn't that the whole point of things like television anyway? Its essentially a book with images to display a storyline instead of words/pictures.

This is a problem that needs to be controlled, but only by the ESRB, or any other ratings board in the world. The government doesn't need to put this matter into their hands unless something drastically bad happens that gives us all a wake up call. To be honest, I agree with the decision to ban Manhunt 2 in the UK and Ireland if it really is as violent as it is depicted to be. Video game violence is something that we can control on our own, as parents, gamers, and individuals. The only people that can't determine what is real and what is fake after all, are those that are insane anyway. Right?

REVOLUTIONfreak

What ? That's just silly ! SSBM is being played by thousands of kids, where's the huge violence ?

I disagree with the ban of manhunt 2 ... tell you what: if you ban something like manhunt 2 then why don't ban movies like hostel or even porn which is more immoral then anything else :? ? Those European government ....

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#11 shoeman12
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it's not a big deal. i don't think the government should ever interfere to ban a game or make ratings law, it's up to the parent to decide if their kid is mature enough to play a violent game. saying that playing mh2 and making sawing and stabbing motions is going to cause kids to go on a muderous rampage is just false. you make those motions everyday. look at how many people play video games and how few of them are murderers. video games will not cause violence. playing re:4 doesn't make me want to go out and kill people that look like zombies.
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#12 Jestarius
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I do agree with many of you in the fact that parents are indeed the ones who should be responsible for controlling what their kids play. However, I also couple that with the fact that there is an insanely huge amount of incompetent parents. While many childrenin the 15-18 rangewill not be horrendously effected by this, especially with a parent there to help interpret and put it into perspective, most parents don't do it. This is sad and pathetic, but it's the way things are in our society. There are some people who should not be playing violent games even until their mid-20's because of their mental nature. Working in a group home myself, I see many of those types of kids. I about beat down one of our workers who thought it was a good idea to let a 13 year old boy who was beaten by his parents until he ran away play SOCOM.

It is because of these incompetent parents, the likes who blame everybody else for their child turning out badly, because they know their child is a perfect angel, who are to blame for the likes of this. The government is for the people, per se, and that is what people shift to. They whine about the controls placed upon them, but theircomplaining, fear, and lack of responsibility caused those controls to be put into place in the first place.

So yes, parents are the responsible party. It's about time they took that fact to heart, and did something about it so we don't have to deal with this sort of stupidity.

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#13 HyruleanLink
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IMO, video game violence can go in two ways: violence can be used to express the game in a decent matter and second, the game contains too much violence and gore that is unecessary. The first defense for violent games is in the sole responsibility of the parent(s). A parent(s) have the authority of what a child plays on the console, PC, or handheld. Also I think that you have to look at the person whose playing that game. You have know the person if they are mature and/or handle to play a M or T game. I also believe that video games are not the sole problem to violent behavior in people. Violence is all around us with it being on TV, newspaper, and in the community. Overall, the contents of a video game needs to studied and then study that person who would be playing the game. These is my thought on the subject and I don't mean to offend anyone.
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#14 MarioMainic
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Blame this on Jack Thompson .