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#1 wickerman2004
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I ran a cross an interesting article today while cruising teh internets. This will be basically a summary and discussion on the topic. I will be using Zelda as my reference point game throughout...

Today we all know alot of information on a game before it is ever even released - previews, game trailers, press conferences, ect. Is this taking away from the 'magic' that games can give us? I am just as guilty as every one else here in the fact that I read every news bit and watch every trailer for Twilight Princess....I think I know alot about a game that no one knows anything about. Of course we have only seen bits and pieces of a game that going to be huge, but we all know what to expect from it.

Does this take away from the game experience in some way? Yeah, we'll get it, play and be like 'wow - did you see that boss??' and stuff like that - we'll be impressed no doubt - a title like this comes along not often. BUT I had never even heard of Ocarina of Time before the day my mom walked through the door with a copy. She simply bought it because of previous Zelda experiences. So going into the game, I had no pre-concieved idea of what to expect - other than it was 3-D. The experience of playing through Ocarina has in part made it what it is to me today - an absolute masterpiece that blew me away then, and is a much better game to replay through than most in my collection.

Being that we know what to expect - do you think the magic TP can offer is already dimished before it is even released? Maybe to an extent. In todays online world, would it be possible to not release info and then just drop the game to retail? I think that's not possible...people want info, we want it so we can start judging before it's even an option to purchase/rent. What do we do with that info besides judge? Nothing. We either want it more or we want it less after getting some info. It's a precarious game of cat and mouse. We're the cat and can't ignore that damn mouse - it's just in us to get it...even if all we do is play with it until it's dead and then leave it there laying.

Could you swear off any info on a game you heard was in development until the day it was in the store and you were buying it...no reviews read...no gameplay videos watched.....no screenshots or previews? I would think most of us would say ' what kind of crack are you smoking wickerman?!?!' - I'd have to reply ' obviously bad crack'....because we want the info to decide if we should plunk our money down on a title - no one wants to buy a turd...they're free where I live. But don't we set ourselves up for it everytime? Twilight Princess won't have the same impact on me as Ocarina and that's sad.....I wish I didn't know what I do about it...but there was no way to escape it.

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#2 Smoke2Much
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I counldn't agree with you more on this point ! I remember back in the days where you never found out anything about a game until it hit the stores and that was great.Sure some times you would end up with a crapy game but who cares it was your parents money anyways right?Now a days you know the games name and what the plot is a year and half before it hits the shelves and you find your self looking at the game and saying to your self "do i really want this games if seen everying about it !"which really sucks sometimes,but i can only blame my self i guess for comeing to web sites like this one!
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#3 arfy2
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This is a very interesting topic and is going to be intrigueing to see what people say.

I don't watch trailers because I can't be bothered with them. There are so many sometimes. Anyways I understand where you are coming from Wickerman. When you read the review we get info on the plot, abilities and so on a lot of the initial wow factor isn't there when we first play the game. However, in amazing games like the Zelda ones there are still lots of times I gawp in awe at the screen. Reviews, previews and movies don't show everything in a game so there is still a lot that surprises me. Just after I have played the game for a few hours though.

I don't think I could ever stop reading reviews and previews because I have a thirst for them! So I guess I just have to play my games for a few hours before I really start to enjoy them :D 

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#4 lebanese_boy
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This is a very interesting topic and is going to be intrigueing to see what people say.

I don't watch trailers because I can't be bothered with them. There are so many sometimes. Anyways I understand where you are coming from Wickerman. When you read the review we get info on the plot, abilities and so on a lot of the initial wow factor isn't there when we first play the game. However, in amazing games like the Zelda ones there are still lots of times I gawp in awe at the screen. Reviews, previews and movies don't show everything in a game so there is still a lot that surprises me. Just after I have played the game for a few hours though.

I don't think I could ever stop reading reviews and previews because I have a thirst for them! So I guess I just have to play my games for a few hours before I really start to enjoy them :D

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same here, If zelda TP get's lower then 9.7 ... well expect me to read the full review.
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I really can see where your coming from.  Continuously, especially with SSBB, I have been very disappointed.  Even though the other games were fun to play, the biggest thrill was to find out who the unlockable characters were....but now it seems like the fun has been spoiled because the biggest surprises of SSBB have already been revealed.

At this point, people almost tend to lean TOO much on the media for info on games.  I do miss the days where my bro would come home with a game id never heard of, and then be able to play it and just have fun.  Now however, it seems websites like this determine what makes a good game and what doesnt, and it really to an extent isnt fair to all of us.

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Before I start cheers on the great thread Wicerman, anyway I have quite a bit of experience with this and let me tell you what I think. First of all I have been a crazed Metal Gear fan since the debut of the Solid games on the ps1, so I started tracking every god damn bit of Metal Gear Solid 2 to the point where by launch day I had known everything from staff to plot to even playing a whole chapter (the tanker incident) prior to launch which really bugged me when I actually bought it because I had wasted around 3 hours of playing a replay basically. At this point I decided I would not look over anything about Metal Gear Solid 3 prior to launch In order to keep it fresh and new when I got it, but by the time I got to playing the game it had been so long and so different from the last one that at first I got annoyed at how it changed it and even found myself turning off the console two hours into play of one of my favorite franchises. Eventually I played on and loved it but it took me a while cause I did not even know it was a prequel and got confused through the whole game only because I did not want anything with spoilers. Basically what I am getting at is never play a demo for sure but read up a bit on the setting time/date just to get an overview. Anyway I know I will prior to the launch of Metal Gear Solid 4 just cause the series is hard to follow.
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why are you spamming?
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:cry: I read the entire Wikipedia article for TP!!! *crys* I'm so ashamed of myself!!*blows nose into tissue paper*

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#10 Famicomman
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Shame on you :evil: go to the Nintendo temple and pray for forgiveness!!!!!

I don't like commercials for video games...It makes them seem to much like a movie rather then game.

:cry: I read the entire Wikipedia article for TP!!! *crys* I'm so ashamed of myself!!*blows nose into tissue paper*

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I unlike many people do not know everything there is to know about TP, but I know more than I need to know, because all I need to know is that it is a Zelda game.
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I agree with you, mostly on the TP point, as I've seen the trailers and have tried to not watch them if others are as I know watching them is taking from what I will be amazed at, and its sad been able to get so much information on something only to have read about the best parts in a review or seen it in a trailer.
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#13 wickerman2004
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I do miss those days. I feel as if there is some element that is taken from me before I pop a title in myself and see the start-up screen. It is my fault, just like you and you and you.....we all want to know and we get caught up in the news stories and gossip...then we start formulating our own opinions and ideas of the game and it should 'have this' and 'do that'. We post on it and discuss it amoungst ourselves....which we all enjoy doing - don't even deny it. Self control. Can it be excersised? It's about will power in the end....you haven't had a new game you like in months - you know there is one development, can you resist reading about it?

I'm throwing the gaunlet down now on at least ONE title..and am going to avaoid anything at all related to it until the day I buy it and pop it in my Wii...Resident Evil. I know very little about it, but oddly enough the few tidbits I have heard through the rumour mill have already led me to form an opinion if it - RE4 style gameplay set across all the main games in the series - that to me is a spoiler already. From this day on - no Resident Evil Wii news for me, no more reading on PH (thankfully we haven't seen much info on it)...ok -that's enough - addicts have to take small steps ya know. :P

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I do miss those days. I feel as if there is some element that is taken from me before I pop a title in myself and see the start-up screen. It is my fault, just like you and you and you.....we all want to know and we get caught up in the news stories and gossip...then we start formulating our own opinions and ideas of the game and it should 'have this' and 'do that'. We post on it and discuss it amoungst ourselves....which we all enjoy doing - don't even deny it. Self control. Can it be excersised? It's about will power in the end....you haven't had a new game you like in months - you know there is one development, can you resist reading about it?

I'm throwing the gaunlet down now on at least ONE title..and am going to avaoid anything at all related to it until the day I buy it and pop it in my Wii...Resident Evil. I know very little about it, but oddly enough the few tidbits I have heard through the rumour mill have already led me to form an opinion if it - RE4 style gameplay set across all the main games in the series - that to me is a spoiler already. From this day on - no Resident Evil Wii news for me, no more reading on PH (thankfully we haven't seen much info on it)...ok -that's enough - addicts have to take small steps ya know. :P

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haha if i wamted i could spoil everything for you right now! So very tempting.... :roll:
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#15 wickerman2004
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:| you wouldn't!!!!
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:| you wouldn't!!!!wickerman2004
haha normally i would, but i will be genrous and not say anything
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We as gamespot users are supposed to have spoiler warnings anyways, so if you do post something, just say *SPOILERS* and then everyone has been warned...
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^^^ yeah I would appreciate that.
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#19 REVOLUTIONfreak
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(spoilers)

LINK IS THE MAIN CHARACTER IN TP!

Oops, did i spoil it for someone? :lol:

I guess thats not what you meant by warning lol

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#20 wickerman2004
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I HATE YOU!!!!!! *runs away crying* :P
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*spoiler*

Link will be able to turn into a Wolf!

And will get Iron boots!

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#22 REVOLUTIONfreak
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*spoiler*

Link will be able to turn into a Wolf!

And will get Iron boots!

Famicomman

NOOOOOOO!  How could you ruin it for me?!  I can top that!

*spoilers*

Link turns into a wolf when he enters the TWILIGHT REALM

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*more spoilers*

THERE SHALL BE BOSS FIGHTS!!!

eh... i tried
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#24 REVOLUTIONfreak
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I actually just read something on IGN that relates to this.  One of the staff members (im assuming) of IGN mentioned that Zelda has a very strange control scheme, and also that he was disappointed by seeing the snow areas and master sword areas of the game.  By this, he refers to the exact thing we are talking about here "Stealing Magic".  Looks like we arent the only ones that feel this way
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#25 wickerman2004
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i read the same thing...i guess i need to get out the old aluminum mind control hat again. :|

*GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!*

i'm doing good with my RE Wii oath....I did see one gorgeous shot in a Wii montage video...it was the dining room from the original....WHOAMG it looked sweet!

but it's like crack - it's actually hard to keep from reading anything on it. but i haven't - i know the name only because it was in a news article, and the basic idea. i removed it from my tracked games as well. *good boy, good*

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#26 REVOLUTIONfreak
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i read the same thing...i guess i need to get out the old aluminum mind control hat again. :|

*GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!*

i'm doing good with my RE Wii oath....I did see one gorgeous shot in a Wii montage video...it was the dining room from the original....WHOAMG it looked sweet!

but it's like crack - it's actually hard to keep from reading anything on it. but i haven't - i know the name only because it was in a news article, and the basic idea. i removed it from my tracked games as well. *good boy, good*

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lol, actually I think Im going to do the same, only with SSBB.  I remember specifically finding out all of the new characters through playing, and thats what I enjoyed the most about the game.  beating something, and having that shocked feeling of the unlocked character.
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#27 Famicomman
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[QUOTE="wickerman2004"]

i read the same thing...i guess i need to get out the old aluminum mind control hat again. :|

*GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!*

i'm doing good with my RE Wii oath....I did see one gorgeous shot in a Wii montage video...it was the dining room from the original....WHOAMG it looked sweet!

but it's like crack - it's actually hard to keep from reading anything on it. but i haven't - i know the name only because it was in a news article, and the basic idea. i removed it from my tracked games as well. *good boy, good*

REVOLUTIONfreak

lol, actually I think Im going to do the same, only with SSBB.  I remember specifically finding out all of the new characters through playing, and thats what I enjoyed the most about the game.  beating something, and having that shocked feeling of the unlocked character.

I  like beating games fairly but I hate unlocking charecters fairly *glances off Rev.Freak...*

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#28 REVOLUTIONfreak
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you know, I have seen a lot of info being revealed about TP lately.... and everytime I see it I seem to think of this topic.  Now that I think about it, why would anyone want to know what happens in Twilight Princess before you even play it?  this topic gives me a new perspective on things
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Shame on you :evil: go to the Nintendo temple and pray for forgiveness!!!!!

I don't like commercials for video games...It makes them seem to much like a movie rather then game.

[QUOTE="Squidward117"]

:cry: I read the entire Wikipedia article for TP!!! *crys* I'm so ashamed of myself!!*blows nose into tissue paper*

Famicomman

May the great miyamoto have pity on us all !!!
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#30 lebanese_boy
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*more spoilers*

THERE SHALL BE BOSS FIGHTS!!!

eh... i tried
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I'm gonna report you, :cry: you ruined all teh fun !!! On a side-note : when medias release spoiler info about VGs, I never read them especially when it's zelda games. Because as any other hardcore zelda fan like me knows, if you know the spoiled info, the whole game is ruined. I really think there's much more secret info about SSBB other then Snake being in it. You've got to admit it, SSBB would have never got that popular if no 3rd party character such as solid snake was added. I really hope they keep at least one of the 2 other 3rd party characters secret ........
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#31 REVOLUTIONfreak
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[QUOTE="Hisjap"]*more spoilers*

THERE SHALL BE BOSS FIGHTS!!!

eh... i tried
lebanese_boy
I'm gonna report you, :cry: you ruined all teh fun !!! On a side-note : when medias release spoiler info about VGs, I never read them especially when it's zelda games. Because as any other hardcore zelda fan like me knows, if you know the spoiled info, the whole game is ruined. I really think there's much more secret info about SSBB other then Snake being in it. You've got to admit it, SSBB would have never got that popular if no 3rd party character such as solid snake was added. I really hope they keep at least one of the 2 other 3rd party characters secret ........

I agree, in fact I wish I hadnt known about Snake being in the game
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#32 RadSnake
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What is this whole thing about? I don't understand it...
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#33 REVOLUTIONfreak
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What is this whole thing about? I don't understand it...RadSnake
basically what we are talking about is how info we get from sites like Gamepsot ultimately kind of ruin the game experience.  I mean think about it, we already know almost everything there is to know about Twilight Princess, which kind of spoils the fun.  Same goes for a lot of other games
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#34 RadSnake
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oh yea, you mean like how they have already told us all the newcomers to SSBB?
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#35 REVOLUTIONfreak
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oh yea, you mean like how they have already told us all the newcomers to SSBB?RadSnake
ya
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#36 Ark_J
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But then again, there is the suspense of HOW you get that character, and what their moves are. If it was truly spoiled, then you would know EXACTLY what each of the new characters B-Down attack would be!