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#1 angelbless
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I really took a long time to bring this topic back ..... Guess I always said myself later and this is what happens :evil:

Anyway I hope you enjoy this new " Did you know that" cause it has new ideas eztarg gave me. So lets try them :D.

As I said before, Final Fantasy has become after all this 20 years into a wonderfull world for all of us. The franchise is just so big that it has created a well know category of monsters, characters, races, ships, places and names. Most of them came up just from the imagination of some people, while other came from very interesting stories, cultures, legends and factes of life itself.

This topics will help us know a little more about our beloved final fantasy game . Enjoy!

This time we will feature: The Chaos(info extracted form wikipedia, wikia, and other sources).


"Tutelary deity of the sacred crystals fashioned by the gods at the time of the Great Making. Created in opposition to Mitron the Chasiter, scion of light. Upon entering the world of Man, he was enveloped in the turmoil rampant there. Lost, he died and was reborn countless times, a walker of life's wheel, eventually to rage against the gods that had so failed him. By sitting in meditation upon the Unrh Pedestal does he clear heart and mind until all that has order and reason and thought is made as nothing." —Clan Primer Bio

The Final Fantasy Vision

For the most commonly Final Fantasy Chaos the Walker of the Wheel, is an Esper from the world of Ivalice. The Esper of Wind, that represents the Zodiac sign of Taurus, the Bull. Chaos has two large horns on his head, similar to those of a bull. From his power of Wind, his color sign is Gray. He is also referred to as the Vrishabha Ascendant, which is the Sanskrit name of its Zodiac sign as used in Jyotish (Hindu) astrology.

Chaos takes his name and appearance from the final boss of the original Final Fantasy, Chaos. Their stories are similar too, both being caught in an endless cycle of life and death. As the theory suggests the fours swords surrounding Chaos most likely represent the Four Fiends of the original Final Fantasy, especially since, during his ultimate attack, each sword glows red, yellow, green and blue, representing Kary of Fire, Lich of Earth, Tiamat of Wind and Kraken of Water. Also, when the swords drop , the green (Wind) sword is the last to drop, given that Chaos is wind-elemental here.

Other Theories

While Final Fantasy gave Chaos a god-like relation in FFXII, the concepto for the world is represented by many theories.

First of all.- Chaos was derived from the Ancient Greek Χάος, Chaos which typically refers to unpredictability, and is the antithetical concept of cosmos. The word χάος did not mean "disorder" in ****cal-period ancient Greece. It meant "the primal emptiness, space".

Chaos is derived from the Proto-Indo-Euopean root ghn or ghen meaning "gape, be wide open": compare "chasm" (from Ancient Greek χάσμα, a cleft, slit or gap), and Anglo-Saxongānian ("yawn"), geanian, ginian ("gape wide"); see also Old Norse Ginnungagap. Due to people misunderstanding early Christian uses of the word, the meaning of the word changed to "disorder". (The Ancient Greek for "disorder" isταραχή.). :o

This concept gave birth to many human theories. like:

The Chaos Theory.- For Mathemaics and physics, describes the behavior of certain nonlinear dynamical systems (this concept concept is a mathematical formalization for any fixed "rule" which describes the time dependence of a point's position in its ambient space. For not going more thechically :?) that may exhibit dynamics that are highly sensitive to initial conditions ( (popularly referred to as the butterfly effect) . As a result of this sensitivity, which manifests itself as an exponential growth of perturbations in the initial conditions, the behavior of chaotic systems appears to be random. This happens even though these systems are deterministic, meaning that their future dynamics are fully defined by their initial conditions, with no random elements involved. This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos. (Good reference for scientists

Well another way (EASIER :P) to understand it is that Chaos is the complexity of causality or the relationship between events. This means that any 'seemingly' insignificant event in the universe has the potential to trigger a chain reaction that will change the whole system. A well known saying in connection with this issue is "A butterfly flapping its wings in one part of the world can cause a hurricane on the other side of the earth."

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Chaos Physics.- Another interesting theory is related to physics where it is often considered analogous to thermodynamic entropy. Chaos is a poetic or metaphysical concept evoking a sense of discord, whereas entropy is a concretely defined function of a physical system. The term "chaos", as commonly used, denotes utter confusion, an incomprehensible and heterogeneous mess. This intuitive notion is at odds with the famous Second Law of Thermodynamics, which states that entropy cannot decrease in a closed system. Maximized entropy always corresponds to apparent homogeneity in a system. Any random disturbance of a homogeneous system results in no meaningful change, therefore scientists will say the randomness, i.e. chaos, is maximized.

And thus the concept of Chaos grows bigger even in this time. But lets go back to the Summon theme


Final Fantasy Appearances (MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!!)

Final Fantasy I

Chaos is the final boss in FFI. He is a relatively large, winged demonic figure. Chaos first exists as Garland, an evil knight who kidnaps the princess of Cornelia. His plot is foiled by the Warriors of Light, who supposedly kill him while rescuing the princess. Garland resurrected by the power of the four Orbs, syphoned by the Four Elemental Fiends and summon him 2,000 years back in time turning him into Chaos, while they are sent into the present to cause mass destruction, while Garland creates the Four Elemental Fiends sometime even further in the past, who will eventually be responsible for his resurrection. This pact creates a time-loop and allows Garland to live forever. The Warriors of Light return to the Chaos Shrine ruins to travel two thousand years into the past, where they meet a Garland who remembers them, and seeks revenge, having defeated them in alternate time-lines. After the Warriors of Light somehow defeat Chaos, they return to their own time with the Garland of a new reality waiting for them.

Final Fantasy VII and Dirge of Cerberus

In theFFVII compendium Chaos gets a different version refering to one of the optional characters of the game Vincent Valentine. Vincent transforms into a malevolent winged demon and attacks the enemy with Chaos Saber and Satan Slam. This Limit Break appears in Dirge of Cerberus in the final level of the game. This form allows him to hover briefly, perform a large combo consisting of various claw swipes and kicks, perform a large jump equal to a double jump, and wield the Death Penalty gun (his final weapon from Final Fantasy VII), which gains power as it collects the souls of the wicked.

In Dirge of Cerberus, Chaos' form is not a limit break, but rather a semi-WEAPON that acts according to the will of another WEAPON (the ultimate WEAPON) Omega. The legend of Chaos and Omega's existance as WEAPONS that the planet calls forth in a time of threat were only recently discovered by Dr. Lucrecia Crescent and Dr. Grimoire Valentine. The newest appearance of Chaos comes during the Final Chapter of Dirge of Cerberus and can be played as if he were Vincent. :o

Final Fantasy XII

Chaos is located in the Necrohol of Nabudis. Unlike the other Espers, it is specifically stated why he is located here. He was sealed in the Necrohol following the destruction of Nabudis, by a group of nu mou wielding powerful magicks, this trapping him in a physical location in addition to the spiritual binding the gods had already placed on the Espers.

However, the nu mou binding has weakened over time, and so did 3 Nu Mou search for people brave enough to fight the raging beast.

Final Fantasy XII International

Chaos only retains Aeroga from his previous spells, but can now cast Renew. Whirlwind and Tornado no longer do percentage damage; they seem to be slightly weaker than Aero and Aeroga.

FFXII:Revenant Wings

Chaos returns, along with the other Espers, in Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings as a Rank III flying type Fire summon. When defeated, Kytes gets his quickening which itself is reminisent of Chaos's four elemental attacks in FFXII, except that Kytes's final attack is fire as opposed to wind, since Chaos is fire alligned this time around.

Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the RiftChaos, as he appears in Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift.

Chaos will be returning, along with the other Espers, in Final Fantasy Tactics A2. He is called with the Walker of the Wheel's Ring.

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#3 angelbless
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Wow....long and interesting topic dont u beleive? :PI hope you enjoy have enjoy it. Until we meet again for more Did you know For more references on the other parts see the links below. Take care!! :D


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Pretty good thread, but when you notice the part where Chaos represents the four fiends. Kary is not the name for the fiend of Fire. It's Marilith. But besides that, pretty good thread ;) Thanks for the flow of info.
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#5 Darmi
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Great info there angel :)

You even got some chaos theory in :D

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#6 angelbless
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Thxs a lot :) Im glad you like it :D

and Yip I even had to try to understand the theory :P (I have been forgetting a lot from psychicd this years :( )

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#7 angelbless
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Pretty good thread, but when you notice the part where Chaos represents the four fiends. Kary is not the name for the fiend of Fire. It's Marilith. But besides that, pretty good thread ;) Thanks for the flow of info.LoneRex

Thxs :) Yip ...well Kary had many names between the translations that were made into the FF remakes. She was named Kary, Marilith and even Marilis :D

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Meh someone should make an official name then :P
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Meh someone should make an official name then :PLoneRex

The I offically declare the name to be "Winklefeet."

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#10 angelbless
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Meh someone should make an official name then :PLoneRex

heheh I was thinking the same :P

Btw It seems the topic didnt get the crowds aceptation lol...

Or was it too long to read :o ..:?

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[QUOTE="LoneRex"]Meh someone should make an official name then :Pjoeadonis1

The I offically declare the name to be "Winklefeet."

Right on! The name of the Fiend of Fire shall be known as Winklefeet! :P

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#12 AlBeadFFx
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i just havent had the time to post in here until now.....yeah i post everywhere before the stickied threads

and this is a lot of good information. nice job angelbless

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#13 angelbless
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[QUOTE="joeadonis1"]

[QUOTE="LoneRex"]Meh someone should make an official name then :PLoneRex

The I offically declare the name to be "Winklefeet."

Right on! The name of the Fiend of Fire shall be known as Winklefeet! :P

:P-....lol.. I agree wit the name :D Since today thats the name!!!!

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i just havent had the time to post in here until now.....yeah i post everywhere before the stickied threads

and this is a lot of good information. nice job angelbless

AlBeadFFx

Ths a lot Al Im glad u like it :D

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I still wish there was an indepth story based, did you know.
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I still wish there was an indepth story based, did you know.eztarg8

:o I thought it was more oriented :P I will see what I can do :)

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#17 angelbless
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I willl "un stick" the topic now :9 Thxs for reading ...
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That was very informative.:D I didn't know all of that about Chaos.
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That was very informative.:D I didn't know all of that about Chaos.IpodHero176

Im glad it helped u to know a little more :D

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hmm... i was thinking of letting this go on for at least another week though :P but either way, i'm sure this two weeks worth of information is worth it :P lol
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yep, im just glad i learned a little bit more about him as im trying to get all the FF's that i can get
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#22 angelbless
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yep, im just glad i learned a little bit more about him as im trying to get all the FF's that i can getAlBeadFFx

Great!!! :D

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hmm... i was thinking of letting this go on for at least another week though :P but either way, i'm sure this two weeks worth of information is worth it :P lolkinetic-core

heheh Yip.. I tought u didnt see it :cry:

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#24 kinetic-core
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how could i not have seen a sticky topic which was so informative :P lol.

Just that, everything was a fact and i couldn't comment much on facts :? lol. I can't rebut or object... :evil: hahaha~

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#25 angelbless
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how could i not have seen a sticky topic which was so informative :P lol.

Just that, everything was a fact and i couldn't comment much on facts :? lol. I can't rebut or object... :evil: hahaha~

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heheh Thxs :P...I dont think I could either