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#1 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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The two PS2 FF games...FFX and FFXII. Both good in their own respects for taking the genre to a whole new level. However of them, which was superior? Tell us what you think...and give some reasons :D

My Opinion: FFX was better than FFXII, sure it didnt have a unique battle system like FFXII, however the sphere grid was a kool feature which added to the traditional battle system, plus the ability to control your summons was just plain kool, however gameplay wise its pretty much spoken for that FFXII was better, however FFXII got tedious after a while and the gameplay got repetitive...the story and cast as well was not to the same level as FFX and it is my belief that the story and cast outweigh the battle system flaws.....thus in my opinion FFX is better...what do u think?

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#2 liquid_s
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DoC shall rule! Okay, I liked the game, no matter what others say. Apart from the story, it was a good shooter game, and the last boss was quite good, better than a flying spider, a ghost boy. I havent played 12 yet so I cannot comment on that, but from what I have seen, yeh, looks like a twit!
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DoC shall rule! Okay, I liked the game, no matter what others say. Apart from the story, it was a good shooter game, and the last boss was quite good, better than a flying spider, a ghost boy. I havent played 12 yet so I cannot comment on that, but from what I have seen, yeh, looks like a twit!liquid_s

actually DoC was epic...despite the anti-FFVII claims....it was however ..much to short...and lacked the replay value of other FF games....

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#4 liquid_s
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"]DoC shall rule! Okay, I liked the game, no matter what others say. Apart from the story, it was a good shooter game, and the last boss was quite good, better than a flying spider, a ghost boy. I havent played 12 yet so I cannot comment on that, but from what I have seen, yeh, looks like a twit!DRUNK_CANADIAN

actually DoC was epic...despite the anti-FFVII claims....it was however ..much to short...and lacked the replay value of other FF games....

I agree, it wasnt rly a FF, but it wasnt a typical FF anyway. In all respects, it could have been alot worse!
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#5 fs_metal
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Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
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X2 for me. The return of ATB was very welcome. There was only three characters. The story was light hearted. And Yuna in hot pants and Rikku in a miniskirt. It all comes together for a throughly enjoyable game.
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X2 for me. The return of ATB was very welcome. There was only three characters. The story was light hearted. And Yuna in hot pants and Rikku in a miniskirt. It all comes together for a throughly enjoyable game.joeadonis1
finally someone else who like x-2 as much as me (or maybe more) its a gret game
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#8 liquid_s
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Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
fs_metal
You do know he meant the final battle!
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[QUOTE="joeadonis1"]X2 for me. The return of ATB was very welcome. There was only three characters. The story was light hearted. And Yuna in hot pants and Rikku in a miniskirt. It all comes together for a throughly enjoyable game.azazel_666
finally someone else who like x-2 as much as me (or maybe more) its a gret game

It's an okey game. It's not as bad as people say, well not as a game. But the way it end is shocking i think. And it destroys a lot of the things people loved in FFX...
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#10 liquid_s
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[QUOTE="azazel_666"][QUOTE="joeadonis1"]X2 for me. The return of ATB was very welcome. There was only three characters. The story was light hearted. And Yuna in hot pants and Rikku in a miniskirt. It all comes together for a throughly enjoyable game.TheForgotten0ne
finally someone else who like x-2 as much as me (or maybe more) its a gret game

It's an okey game. It's not as bad as people say, well not as a game. But the way it end is shocking i think. And it destroys a lot of the things people loved in FFX...

You should read my review on it
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[QUOTE="TheForgotten0ne"][QUOTE="azazel_666"][QUOTE="joeadonis1"]X2 for me. The return of ATB was very welcome. There was only three characters. The story was light hearted. And Yuna in hot pants and Rikku in a miniskirt. It all comes together for a throughly enjoyable game.liquid_s
finally someone else who like x-2 as much as me (or maybe more) its a gret game

It's an okey game. It's not as bad as people say, well not as a game. But the way it end is shocking i think. And it destroys a lot of the things people loved in FFX...

You should read my review on it

dude u gave it a 3...how could you
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[QUOTE="TheForgotten0ne"][QUOTE="azazel_666"][QUOTE="joeadonis1"]X2 for me. The return of ATB was very welcome. There was only three characters. The story was light hearted. And Yuna in hot pants and Rikku in a miniskirt. It all comes together for a throughly enjoyable game.liquid_s
finally someone else who like x-2 as much as me (or maybe more) its a gret game

It's an okey game. It's not as bad as people say, well not as a game. But the way it end is shocking i think. And it destroys a lot of the things people loved in FFX...

You should read my review on it

Well you forgot the battle system, that ain't bad at all. And the sound isn't 1/10, okey FF have had a lot better but i would say more of a 6/10. And as a review you tell to much of the ending....Sorry...

I think i would give it something like 7.8 i think:)
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
liquid_s
You do know he meant the final battle!

Final battle or not, that game is terrible
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
fs_metal
You do know he meant the final battle!

Final battle or not, that game is terrible

not terribal just not up to square standerd. i cant sleep
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
azazel_666
You do know he meant the final battle!

Final battle or not, that game is terrible

not terribal just not up to square standerd. i cant sleep

No. It is terrible

Bad enemy AI
Bland level design that feels repetitive
Bland shooting made easy by an auto aim system.
Pointless jumping
No variety in enemies to shoot at
Only 3 guns that, even when modded, feel like the same 3 guns.
No multiplayer of any kind
The game is in love with it's own story. It has cut scenes in the middle of boss fights for crying out loud
Too much like a DMC rip off during the cut scenes

IT is a bad game
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Final Fantasy XII is my favorite FF on the PS2 followed by Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2.
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[QUOTE="azazel_666"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
fs_metal
You do know he meant the final battle!

Final battle or not, that game is terrible

not terribal just not up to square standerd. i cant sleep

No. It is terrible

Bad enemy AI
Bland level design that feels repetitive
Bland shooting made easy by an auto aim system.
Pointless jumping
No variety in enemies to shoot at
Only 3 guns that, even when modded, feel like the same 3 guns.
No multiplayer of any kind
The game is in love with it's own story. It has cut scenes in the middle of boss fights for crying out loud
Too much like a DMC rip off during the cut scenes

IT is a bad game

Is right to a T. I played it and he's right about it.

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DoC was awsome :D I got addicted and enjoyed playing
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#20 fs_metal
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Have you ever playe a good shooter in your life? It is not a good one
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I have to go with XII for me its easily the best on the ps2 hell its tied with 8 as my all time favorite.
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#22 Zerocrossings
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FFX definitely
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even though i like XII, FFX is still my favorite FF of all time! maybe when i beat FFXII it might be my favorite, but not right now.
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It's close between X and XII but I'd go with XII. X-2 and DoC I didn't like at all.
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#25 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="azazel_666"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
IpodHero176

You do know he meant the final battle!

Final battle or not, that game is terrible

not terribal just not up to square standerd. i cant sleep

No. It is terrible

Bad enemy AI
Bland level design that feels repetitive
Bland shooting made easy by an auto aim system.
Pointless jumping
No variety in enemies to shoot at
Only 3 guns that, even when modded, feel like the same 3 guns.
No multiplayer of any kind
The game is in love with it's own story. It has cut scenes in the middle of boss fights for crying out loud
Too much like a DMC rip off during the cut scenes

IT is a bad game

Is right to a T. I played it and he's right about it.

FS r u high? You say DMC pwns...but DoC was like a complete ripoff battle ..the story in DoC was better than DMC, battle wise it is the same damn thing, if anything Vincent didnt do as cheesy job as like Dante....both games were good, yet both were easy....point?

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#26 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="IpodHero176"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="azazel_666"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
DRUNK_CANADIAN

You do know he meant the final battle!

Final battle or not, that game is terrible

not terribal just not up to square standerd. i cant sleep

No. It is terrible

Bad enemy AI
Bland level design that feels repetitive
Bland shooting made easy by an auto aim system.
Pointless jumping
No variety in enemies to shoot at
Only 3 guns that, even when modded, feel like the same 3 guns.
No multiplayer of any kind
The game is in love with it's own story. It has cut scenes in the middle of boss fights for crying out loud
Too much like a DMC rip off during the cut scenes

IT is a bad game

Is right to a T. I played it and he's right about it.

FS r u high? You say DMC pwns...but DoC was like a complete ripoff battle ..the story in DoC was better than DMC, battle wise it is the same damn thing, if anything Vincent didnt do as cheesy job as like Dante....both games were good, yet both were easy....point?

DMC is an action game. DoC is a shooter. They are different. DMC3 is not easy. DMC is a great game. DoC is not
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[QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"][QUOTE="IpodHero176"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="azazel_666"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Someone actually voted for DoC? That game is aweful

FFXII is deffinitely the best RPG on the PS2
fs_metal

You do know he meant the final battle!

Final battle or not, that game is terrible

not terribal just not up to square standerd. i cant sleep

No. It is terrible

Bad enemy AI
Bland level design that feels repetitive
Bland shooting made easy by an auto aim system.
Pointless jumping
No variety in enemies to shoot at
Only 3 guns that, even when modded, feel like the same 3 guns.
No multiplayer of any kind
The game is in love with it's own story. It has cut scenes in the middle of boss fights for crying out loud
Too much like a DMC rip off during the cut scenes

IT is a bad game

Is right to a T. I played it and he's right about it.

FS r u high? You say DMC pwns...but DoC was like a complete ripoff battle ..the story in DoC was better than DMC, battle wise it is the same damn thing, if anything Vincent didnt do as cheesy job as like Dante....both games were good, yet both were easy....point?

DMC is an action game. DoC is a shooter. They are different. DMC3 is not easy. DMC is a great game. DoC is not

yep.fs is high he says dmc is not easy man i beat that game in like a day in a half. 
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#28 fs_metal
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Devil May Cry 1 and 2 are not difficult. Devil May Cry 3's difficulty is well documented
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#29 blademasterx
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Devil May Cry 1 and 2 are not difficult. Devil May Cry 3's difficulty is well documentedfs_metal
where?cuz i have yet to encounter one person(besides you)who thinks the game is differcult
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#30 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Devil May Cry 1 and 2 are not difficult. Devil May Cry 3's difficulty is well documentedblademasterx
where?cuz i have yet to encounter one person(besides you)who thinks the game is differcult

All that meas is that you have never talked to peopel about the game. Watch Gamespots video review. The dude noted the difficulty saying he felt like he belonged to a slecial 'I beat Devil May Cry 3' club
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#31 fs_metal
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Here is from Gamespot:

The Good: Excellent, fluid combat system, once you get the hang of it; spectacular visuals, especially the cutscenes; open-ended character building system gives replay value.
The Bad: Ridiculously, unreasonably difficult at first; not much variety of environments; fair amount of backtracking.

This is from IGN:

Hardcore gamers that think they're the best on the block had better take notice: Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening is going to kick your ass... a lot. I don't care if you've played through Ninja Gaiden's Hurricane Pack before, or if you've somehow overcome the level 10 Orochi in KOF '97, or even if you managed to beat the original Maximo without losing any health -- Devil May Cry 3 is still going to kick your ass.

From Gamespy:

Even at the default difficulty mode, the fights are startlingly challenging. Luckily, after you receive a sufficient number of ass-kickings, an "easy" mode becomes available -- easy, of course, being a relative term. The game is still plenty tough on this setting, but it offers the most reliable way to get a handle on the intricacies of the combat system.

This is from 1up:

The game's biggest problem, to put it bluntly, is that it's unrealistically hard.

This is from Game Revolution:

The trouble is twofold. First, Devil May Cry 3 is hard  really hard. You are immediately thrown right into the thick of things, and will start off by dying a lot. Learning how to use all the controls, not get screwed up by the camera, and simply stay alive is extremely difficult. In all the cool cut-scene movies, Dante appears nigh-invulnerable, but as soon as he s in your hands, you ll discover he dies quite easily and repeatedly.

So yes. That game's difficulty is well documented.
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#32 blademasterx
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okay so dmc3 differculty is documented but what the hell is ign talking about ninja gaiden is way harder then dmc3 it took me a month to beat.
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#33 fs_metal
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They weren't saying it was as difficult as Ninja Gaiden. They wer using it as a reference when saying Devil May Cry 3 is extremely hard
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#34 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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DMC3 ok it was a lil more difficult, but still easy by my standards...than again I have played few "hard games" unless I feel like dickign around like being a game with beginning equipment or somthing lol....
...but no DMC has never been hard....but is this necessarilly a bad thing? ....regardless looking forward to next DMC YEE YEE ...comon PS3 mutha ****ers, I have been watching the vids alot

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#35 fs_metal
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DMC3 is hard. I am closing this topic to make the freaking arguing stop