Is it possible to know about all secrets without the use of an official guide??

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#1 kinetic-core
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^^topic.

I mean, for FFX-2, it was kinda easy, but still, not that easy. In FFX-2, everything was mission-based, and the map is so linear that secrets are easy to discover.

How bout the other FFs, i don't ever remember getting a secret revealed without a guide, or someone telling me. :lol:

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#2 joeadonis1
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It took me three tries to get the mascot dress spheres even with the guide. Theres no way I'd have watched the videos that your supposed to watch.

Then there was the dodging 100 lighting bolts for Lulus best weapon. Ofcourse the guide couldnt help me acctually dodge the bolts when I finally read about it. Naturally I got to 98, choked and never tried that again.

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#3 Sir-Dark-Raiden
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Thats funny, but seriously in some FF you can't get all the secrets from the first play or if you don't spent a lot of time. Sometimes the best way to complete a game 100% and get all its secrets is a Strategy Guide.
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#4 FinalHorror
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Well it aint hard if you try damn hard. But how do you know that you know about all the secrets withouth an offical guide? Thats a better question i think:P
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#5 Darmi
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I always use guides to find all the secrets. I would never find them otherwise. It took me three play throughs of FFX before I found caladborg, and that was with a guide telling me where to go :roll: But who would have ever found all the airship locations without a guide? I certainly wouldn't have.
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#6 FinalHorror
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 [QUOTE="Darmi"]I always use guides to find all the secrets. I would never find them otherwise. It took me three play throughs of FFX before I found caladborg, and that was with a guide telling me where to go :roll: But who would have ever found all the airship locations without a guide? I certainly wouldn't have.

I did:P haha, i tryed them all^^ I were so bored one day:P And bam i thought why not find them all...And i did:D:P
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#7 The1-thtgotaway
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Not  really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII  there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.
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#8 Zerocrossings
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I did find the underwater lab in FF8 acidentally,but ii had to kill lots of ruby dragons as i did not know which option to pick before getting mauled by Bahamut in the end
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#9 liquid_s
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Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.The1-thtgotaway
UNLESS you do it yourself.
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#10 FinalHorror
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[QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"]Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.liquid_s
UNLESS you do it yourself.

what an answer:P how would he have found that one out:P? than you have to play the game MANY times:P
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#11 The1-thtgotaway
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"]Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.FinalHorror
UNLESS you do it yourself.

what an answer:P how would he have found that one out:P? than you have to play the game MANY times:P

Yeah that is what I'm saying, and I am a girl :lol:
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#12 FinalHorror
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[QUOTE="FinalHorror"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"]Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.The1-thtgotaway
UNLESS you do it yourself.

what an answer:P how would he have found that one out:P? than you have to play the game MANY times:P

Yeah that is what I'm saying, and I am a girl :lol:

ops...sry there;)
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#13 Sir-Dark-Raiden
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So what if you are a girl or a boy, sometimes you get really pissed off because of a game, and some secrets aren't that easy to do or find. And how much time are you going to spend in front of a game just to find all the secrets without a strategy guide? Seriously now.
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#14 greatfluffy
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It kind of help me sometimes but you can find some secrets for your self. Well the easy ones.
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#15 The1-thtgotaway
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So what if you are a girl or a boy, sometimes you get really pissed off because of a game, and some secrets aren't that easy to do or find. And how much time are you going to spend in front of a game just to find all the secrets without a strategy guide? Seriously now.Sir-Dark-Raiden
Of course these are the reasons for strategy guides, I mean we aren't the ones you made the game. I think to find certain secrets and hidden things you must use a strategy guide.
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#16 FinalHorror
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Well, someone need these secrerts to play. And they make extra money on selling those guides;)
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Not  really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII  there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.The1-thtgotaway

Actually i found that by acident 8)

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#18 FinalHorror
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[QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"]Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.Zerocrossings

Actually i found that by acident 8)

Yeah, but whats the chanse:P And it took some time before you found out that you wouldn't get it if barret wasn't in your party;)
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#19 Sir-Dark-Raiden
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I totally agree. :)
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#20 The1-thtgotaway
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[QUOTE="Zerocrossings"]

[QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"]Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.FinalHorror

Actually i found that by acident 8)

Yeah, but whats the chanse:P And it took some time before you found out that you wouldn't get it if barret wasn't in your party;)

Yeah Because I didn't have Barret in my party because he was strong even though I had to beat Hojo, I wanted to train my other people so we could be prepared for Sephiroth. :lol: The chances with me finding that is 0/100 unless I played it over and over again.
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#21 FinalHorror
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[QUOTE="FinalHorror"][QUOTE="Zerocrossings"]

[QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"]Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.The1-thtgotaway

Actually i found that by acident 8)

Yeah, but whats the chanse:P And it took some time before you found out that you wouldn't get it if barret wasn't in your party;)

Yeah Because I didn't have Barret in my party because he was strong even though I had to beat Hojo, I wanted to train my other people so we could be prepared for Sephiroth. :lol: The chances with me finding that is 0/100 unless I played it over and over again.

Yeah:P think we have said almost that like 100 times now :lol:
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#22 The1-thtgotaway
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[QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"][QUOTE="FinalHorror"][QUOTE="Zerocrossings"]

[QUOTE="The1-thtgotaway"]Not really unless you always search everywhere and try everything. When you are about to face Hojo in FFVII there is this treasure box on one of the staircases, in order to get a like armor for Barrett out of the box, Barrett must be in your party, but if he is not then the box will contain something else. I would have never known that if I didn't use a guide.FinalHorror

Actually i found that by acident 8)

Yeah, but whats the chanse:P And it took some time before you found out that you wouldn't get it if barret wasn't in your party;)

Yeah Because I didn't have Barret in my party because he was strong even though I had to beat Hojo, I wanted to train my other people so we could be prepared for Sephiroth. :lol: The chances with me finding that is 0/100 unless I played it over and over again.

Yeah:P think we have said almost that like 100 times now :lol:

Exactly, but in different words lol.
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#23 andywray
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I have a short answer, no!
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#24 kinetic-core
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I have a short answer, no!andywray
yeah, that's a pretty short answer. Short, yet precise. There's no way i could have found out that i would have to get this thing by doing this how many times in a row.... blah blah blah... impossible. Maybe, they should have put clues or something, like in a "Long-Lost Diary/Journal of a 1000 year old man who died centuries ago". I mean, at least, just leave some kind of clue! :evil:
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#25 andywray
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yeah, that's a pretty short answer. Short, yet precise.kinetic-core
I aim to please! Things like the golden chocobo would be impossible to know about, and the alien called pupu in FFVIII (look it up on google, there is an alien called pupu in FFVIII)
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#26 DbleBassDrummer
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Unless you get lucky, you can't really get all the secrets. Think about it; it's a secret because you don't know about it. If you missed it, how would you ever know?

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#27 RaiKageRyu
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I use a strategy guide for a game after a set of conditions have been done:

- I beat the game by myself first, trying my best to do anything there is but not really going out of my way to look for hidden tasks.

- After that, I use a strategy guide only to look at the "list" of sidequests, item, etc... and then go about completing them on my own.

- If, after a significant large amount of time has passed and I still haven't found everything. I, then fully use a strategy guide.

Most often its only for RPGs that all 3 conditions ever get met. Any other type of game, I can complete the game through conditions 1 or 2.
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#28 ZhenDash
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I have the same experince on Final Fantasy IX. I first played it and basically uncovered the side quests like the chocobo hot and cold minigame as well as discovering ozma. I went very slowly on my second run, re-visiting every town and almost talking to all the people in a town screen which basically uncovers almost the secrets in Final Fantasy IX. 
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I have the same experince on Final Fantasy IX. I first played it and basically uncovered the side quests like the chocobo hot and cold minigame as well as discovering ozma. I went very slowly on my second run, re-visiting every town and almost talking to all the people in a town screen which basically uncovers almost the secrets in Final Fantasy IX. ZhenDash
Since IX is my FF game! I do not use a strategy book for that one. It took me AGES to get that golden chocobo. I still haven't got it all! But wait and se, i will get it all one day:P