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#1 kinetic-core
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As political as Final Fantasy Tactics. As lovely as Final Fantasy VIII.

Would it be THE game for us all?

To me, the best ever is to put Nomura with Matsuno under one title. Love+Politics=Best FF Ever!

I think Nomura can write great love stories, while Matsuno, is THE master with politics..

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#2 fs_metal
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This thread makes my inner FF fan cry
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#3 kinetic-core
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This thread makes my inner FF fan cry
fs_metal
:lol: you're not too old to continue hoping. FF won't stop for the next 100 years! when there's a will , there's a way. One day, the brothers will join hands and create the ULTIMATE FINAL FANTASY! :D
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#4 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]This thread makes my inner FF fan cry
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:lol: you're not too old to continue hoping. FF won't stop for the next 100 years! when there's a will , there's a way. One day, the brothers will join hands and create the ULTIMATE FINAL FANTASY! :D

The hope is in vain, as Matsuno no longer works for SE.

The ultimate Final Fantasy was a game by Sakaguchi, Kitase, Uematsu and Amano. It was called Final Fantasy VI
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#5 kinetic-core
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heh... Kitase Yoshinori ? hmm... true, FFVI is one of da best, and will always be. Alongside FFXII :lol: Thing is, do ye realize we're the only two in this thread? Does no one else actually share the same thoughts as us? lol
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#6 fs_metal
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I am not a huge Nomura fan, but I love Matsuno's body of work. Vagrant Story was so frickin amazing
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#7 Lv60BlkMage
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final fantasy was supposed to end on game one but i guess it will go on till the end of time
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#8 fs_metal
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No it won't/ The series will go down hill (one could argue that it is now, if you excluded FFXII) and will eventually die
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#9 X-7
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FS_METAL resign from the union if you do not like it anymore. Are you dissappointed about the ATB? Get over it and LEAVE! I am not trying to be mean, OK?!?! I just cannot stand what people call a TWO FACED JERK!!! :twisted:Seriously no offense. Sorry if I have offended anyone.:oops:

Well to the actual topic. HUH!?!? I do not know who Matsuno is. But, whoever that is they rock!8) And yes Nomura and this Matsuno should do a game together. We also need Nobou back. He is my favorite composer. I do not know many soooo..... anyway love and politics are two things I suck at. So I better never make a FF game. Although... I am good at righting action intensive battle scenes.:D

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FS_METAL resign from the union if you do not like it anymore. Are you dissappointed about the ATB? Get over it and LEAVE! I am not trying to be mean, OK?!?! I just cannot stand what people call a TWO FACED JERK!!! :twisted:Seriously no offense. Sorry if I have offended anyone.:oops:X-7

Well that was a little unnecessary... Whether any of us like it or not, Final Fantasy will eventually get to a point where one of the following will happen...

1. People will get tired of seeing Final Fantasy games on the market

2. Square Enix makes one little slip that's capable of giving the new generation of Final Fantasy a bad name

3. ARMAGGEDDON! MWAHAHA!!! :twisted:

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#11 kinetic-core
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you know, i have to agree with fs_metal with his insight to the recent FFs. FFXII is great, and he thinks so too. And it's really a giant step ahead from FFVII onwards. We can't really deny that FF has gone down, if not by a lot, after FFVI. I seriously think FFVI was THE final fantasy. BUT, nonetheless, the recent FFs also have what it's great for. Yeah, he may not like ATB heh? But, sure, ADB did keep him in again. And really, Matsuno, is someone everyone should know about. He always make it a point to make it "non-simple", simple as that. FFXII is a Matsuno story. And, it's amazing, once again.
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#12 fs_metal
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you know, i have to agree with fs_metal with his insight to the recent FFs. FFXII is great, and he thinks so too. And it's really a giant step ahead from FFVII onwards. We can't really deny that FF has gone down, if not by a lot, after FFVI. I seriously think FFVI was THE final fantasy. BUT, nonetheless, the recent FFs also have what it's great for. Yeah, he may not like ATB heh? But, sure, ADB did keep him in again. And really, Matsuno, is someone everyone should know about. He always make it a point to make it "non-simple", simple as that. FFXII is a Matsuno story. And, it's amazing, once again.kinetic-core
It's not os much that I do not like ATB. Random battles get on my nerves after about 30 hours. Chrono Trigger didn't do that, but it used ATB
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#13 trcradical
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That's why I think Final Fantasy XII was a great change to the series. Finally, you knew what was coming ahead, and you could either beat the crap out of it, or ignore it and just run past it.
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#14 fs_metal
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FS_METAL resign from the union if you do not like it anymore. Are you dissappointed about the ATB? Get over it and LEAVE!X-7

No. Read my previous post

 I am not trying to be mean, OK?!?!

reguardless, you are suicceeding 

I just cannot stand what people call a TWO FACED JERK!!! :twisted:Seriously no offense. Sorry if I have offended anyone.:oops:

I am a two faced jerk because my opinion differs from yours? I continue to play Final Fantasy because I like the stories

Well to the actual topic. HUH!?!? I do not know who Matsuno is. But, whoever that is they rock!8)

Matsuno was the best developer Square had after Sakaguchi left. He did Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy XII and Vagrant Story, 3 of Square's best games

 And yes Nomura and this Matsuno should do a game together.

Matsuno no longer works for SE. It is speculated that he is working on an RPG for the Wii

We also need Nobou back. He is my favorite composer.

He still works for SE. He just is not technically employed by them. He has his own company now called Smile, and he contracts to other companies. He is also currently employwed to Mistwalker as their official composer. Keep your eyes on Mistwalker. With him and Hironobu Sakaguchi (Please tell me you know who that is), they will do great things

 I do not know many soooo..... anyway love and politics are two things I suck at. So I better never make a FF game. Although... I am good at righting action intensive battle scenes.:D

Politics is something I am not bad at. I am actually writing a long story that is centered arround politics, war and religion

You strike me as a FF fanboy. Tell me. Do you play Dragon Quest? Have you played Vagrant Story or Xenogears? Chrono Trigger? Anything either Shin Megami Tensei or Megami Tensei? Maybe Ultima? Diablo? Baulders Gate? Well?

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#15 X-7
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Whatever fs_metal! If you want to say somethin' back to me PM. We need to at least be mature enough to take this outside. I do not have anything against you personally. Some of your stuff was a little anti-FF. Thanks for some of the info, I did not know some of it. And that thing about the other RPG's? I do play a lot of RPG's like KOTOR 2 and various action RPG's like TES and Castlevania. Some of the games you named, such as DQ, I am not interested in, but I would like to play Baldurs Gate and Diablo. Sorry, guess this was just a big misunderstanding. People have differing opinions and some take things differently than others do. That's just how it is. Did'nt mean to offend you. Appology accepted?:oops:
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ha....who gives a damn, FF is just a good series, personally i have played alot of pathetic FFs mostly IV and IX ....It is all based on yor preferance, and theory of wht FF should be, however their is no apparent trend that the FF are getting worse, since their is no real pattern in the games,

And don't accuse people of being fanboys FS_Metal because in reality you are a huge "old skool" FF fanboy

everyone favors certain portions of the Final Fantasy series based on their own idealisms within games, we have to learn to respect one another and stop trolling......this goes for X-7 (or w.e ur name was lol)

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#17 fs_metal
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Whatever fs_metal! If you want to say somethin' back to me PM. We need to at least be mature enough to take this outside. I do not have anything against you personally. Some of your stuff was a little anti-FF. Thanks for some of the info, I did not know some of it. And that thing about the other RPG's? I do play a lot of RPG's like KOTOR 2 and various action RPG's like TES and Castlevania. Some of the games you named, such as DQ, I am not interested in, but I would like to play Baldurs Gate and Diablo. Sorry, guess this was just a big misunderstanding. People have differing opinions and some take things differently than others do. That's just how it is. Did'nt mean to offend you. Appology accepted?:oops:X-7
You flame me and now you want to speak of being mature? Riiiiiiiiight.
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#18 fs_metal
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ha....who gives a damn, FF is just a good series, personally i have played alot of pathetic FFs mostly IV and IX ....It is all based on yor preferance, and theory of wht FF should be, however their is no apparent trend that the FF are getting worse, since their is no real pattern in the games,

And don't accuse people of being fanboys FS_Metal because in reality you are a huge "old skool" FF fanboy

everyone favors certain portions of the Final Fantasy series based on their own idealisms within games, we have to learn to respect one another and stop trolling......this goes for X-7 (or w.e ur name was lol)

DRUNK_CANADIAN
Noooooooooo I'm not
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#19 Brian_WCU
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Save the flamage for the general boards where they belong.

I do not think that I could imagine a political love story from ff, it seems like an oxymoron. I think that if they did do it however, something would be lacking, either the love story or the political aspect of it, in order to fit everything together.

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#20 trcradical
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Political love story? How is that possible?! Everyone hates politics, even politicians hate politics.

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hmm.. yeah that might be true. Politics and love may not mix after all. But, if it can somehow click! That'll be great. AND Yes, I believe the flamage should stop too. But think about it? Truly, truly, truly..... don't you think that the original titles are always better than titles that follows? I'm speaking of all things in general. Matrix was good. Matrix Revolutions [3rd incarnation] was horrendous. Not saying anything, but some older FFs are definitely better than the recent FFs. But, FFXII made the franchise back on track again. :D Good
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#22 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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[QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"]

ha....who gives a damn, FF is just a good series, personally i have played alot of pathetic FFs mostly IV and IX ....It is all based on yor preferance, and theory of wht FF should be, however their is no apparent trend that the FF are getting worse, since their is no real pattern in the games,

And don't accuse people of being fanboys FS_Metal because in reality you are a huge "old skool" FF fanboy

everyone favors certain portions of the Final Fantasy series based on their own idealisms within games, we have to learn to respect one another and stop trolling......this goes for X-7 (or w.e ur name was lol)

fs_metal

Noooooooooo I'm not

Someone is in denial :P

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hmm.. yeah that might be true. Politics and love may not mix after all. But, if it can somehow click! That'll be great. AND Yes, I believe the flamage should stop too. But think about it? Truly, truly, truly..... don't you think that the original titles are always better than titles that follows? I'm speaking of all things in general. Matrix was good. Matrix Revolutions [3rd incarnation] was horrendous. Not saying anything, but some older FFs are definitely better than the recent FFs. But, FFXII made the franchise back on track again. :D Goodkinetic-core

You seem to miss the point "good" is based on perspective and personal taste....what is good too one person may not be good to another

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#24 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DRUNK_CANADIAN"]

ha....who gives a damn, FF is just a good series, personally i have played alot of pathetic FFs mostly IV and IX ....It is all based on yor preferance, and theory of wht FF should be, however their is no apparent trend that the FF are getting worse, since their is no real pattern in the games,

And don't accuse people of being fanboys FS_Metal because in reality you are a huge "old skool" FF fanboy

everyone favors certain portions of the Final Fantasy series based on their own idealisms within games, we have to learn to respect one another and stop trolling......this goes for X-7 (or w.e ur name was lol)

DRUNK_CANADIAN

Noooooooooo I'm not


Someone is in denial :P

Please read the first post of my blog
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#25 X-7
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Political love story? How is that possible?! Everyone hates politics, even politicians hate politics.

trcradical

LOL!!! That is true! Nobody likes politics.