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#1 holywin
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i say this:in ff1 the characters age are 32 (aprox) in ff4,30.In ff6,24,in ff7,21,in ff8 i dont know cause i want buy a original so i dont have the ff8 ,in ff9 has 16 and other characters are 6!!!in ff12,vaan has 15.Kmon,in the next final fantasies the hero is a ten years boy??mmm...

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i say this:in ff1 the characters age are 32 (aprox) in ff4,30.In ff6,24,in ff7,21,in ff8 i dont know cause i want buy a original so i dont have the ff8 ,in ff9 has 16 and other characters are 6!!!in ff12,vaan has 15.Kmon,in the next final fantasies the hero is a ten years boy??mmm...

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Yeah.I agree the hero's are getting younger but i have to admit that's what hot in rpg's today.I know i would not want no 30/26year old fart in my final fantasy the age limit is 14 to 20.Cause old people in final fantasy or rpg's period are just not cool.


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#3 liquid_s
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Its the age that the players are on average, so its gives them a view that it is them!
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[QUOTE="holywin"]

i say this:in ff1 the characters age are 32 (aprox) in ff4,30.In ff6,24,in ff7,21,in ff8 i dont know cause i want buy a original so i dont have the ff8 ,in ff9 has 16 and other characters are 6!!!in ff12,vaan has 15.Kmon,in the next final fantasies the hero is a ten years boy??mmm...

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Yeah.I agree the hero's are getting younger but i have to admit that's what hot in rpg's today.I know i would not want no 30/26year old fart in my final fantasy the age limit is 14 to 20.Cause old people in final fantasy or rpg's period are just not cool.


You think a 26 year old is an old fart? Hehe... Have to say I would rather play a more mature character than a 16 year old. Have you seen the Blue Dragon main character? Totally put me off the game.
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As long as they arent really thinking they are the one, the strongest, hardest etc. people like that annoy me an it is usually younger ones... like the people i see all the time at school
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18-21 is a good age range imo. Maybe 17.
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#7 DRUNK_CANADIAN
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Personally yes....the ages should be a little older...I mean hell, its weird when the dudes like 45 or somthing but if they are in the span from roughly 16-30 they should be lead....as for supporting characters...the sky is the limit....well perhaps more accurately....DEAD is the limit :D
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#8 fs_metal
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I just looked it up. 16 deffinitely is not right for FFXII. Penelo and Vaan are the youngest characters in FFXII, and they are both 17 (according to Wikipedia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII

36. 22. 19. 17. 17. The average for FFXII (if you don't include Fran because there is no mention of her age) is 22.
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first of all Vaan is 17 and everyone in FF8 is from 17-19, which is still young but...

i think they're just trying to get a younger audience involved with FF. or they maybe just want to show the growing process to create the "popular" factor like Cloud. but i do wish the main character would break the 21 age limit. i think they could do or get away with a lot more if they were older.

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#10 fs_metal
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Ramza is, far and away, the oldest lead character, and it bothered no one
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wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.
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Seriously, being "old" is not a bad thing on FF. Take Auron for example, he's pretty old(about 35 I think), but kicks some major a$$. More characters like him would not be bad. There's just too many "youngins" going around the ff world saving the day a bit too much. Oh well...I just hope this game will be good. I was hoping to see some more 3D ff going on with the DS to show what it could do like FF3, but hopefully the transitions will feel nice and not out of place.


 
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So....according to your logic, Basch could never have his own game.
wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.blademasterx
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So....according to your logic, Basch could never have his own game. [QUOTE="blademasterx"]wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.fs_metal

No!i already hate basch he is by far the most uninteresting character in final fantasy(beside's penelo)im saying a final fantasy game with basch as main lead.Will lead square to desaster.
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]So....according to your logic, Basch could never have his own game. [QUOTE="blademasterx"]wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.blademasterx

No!i already hate basch he is by far the most uninteresting character in final fantasy(beside's penelo)im saying a final fantasy game with basch as main lead.Will lead square to desaster.

Strange opinions. I thought Basch was a fantastic character. One of the better ones of hte 3D era, though not as cool as Baltheir
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Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i mean
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[QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]So....according to your logic, Basch could never have his own game. [QUOTE="blademasterx"]wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.fs_metal

No!i already hate basch he is by far the most uninteresting character in final fantasy(beside's penelo)im saying a final fantasy game with basch as main lead.Will lead square to desaster.

Strange opinions. I thought Basch was a fantastic character. One of the better ones of hte 3D era, though not as cool as Baltheir

now.Where on the same page baltheir is by far the best character in final fantasy 12.And the best female character in final fantasy period is ashe.
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Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanliquid_s
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"]Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanblademasterx
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Well...would you rather have a young or older character? Younger is better as it makes it seem they will be inexperienced and lower powered than a beefy man of 40.
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Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanliquid_s
That depends. Is the teenage girl more like Rikku or Ashe?
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[QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"]Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanliquid_s
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Well...would you rather have a young or older character? Younger is better as it makes it seem they will be inexperienced and lower powered than a beefy man of 40.

on a role playing game standard. Yes.I would choose the younger character because i make's me feel like im in the game plus younger people make better lead character's in role playing games right?
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"]Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanblademasterx
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Well...would you rather have a young or older character? Younger is better as it makes it seem they will be inexperienced and lower powered than a beefy man of 40.

on a role playing game standard. Yes.I would choose the younger character because i make's me feel like im in the game plus younger people make better lead character's in role playing games right?

No they don't, and Final Fantasy Tactics is proof
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]So....according to your logic, Basch could never have his own game. [QUOTE="blademasterx"]wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.blademasterx

No!i already hate basch he is by far the most uninteresting character in final fantasy(beside's penelo)im saying a final fantasy game with basch as main lead.Will lead square to desaster.

You're saying Basch couldn't be a lead character because he's uninteresting? He's a lot more interesting than Vaan. I'd rather have Basch be a main character than Vaan. At least he has a story....
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#24 liquid_s
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[QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]So....according to your logic, Basch could never have his own game. [QUOTE="blademasterx"]wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.-weezer-

No!i already hate basch he is by far the most uninteresting character in final fantasy(beside's penelo)im saying a final fantasy game with basch as main lead.Will lead square to desaster.

You're saying Basch couldn't be a lead character because he's uninteresting? He's a lot more interesting than Vaan. I'd rather have Basch be a main character than Vaan. At least he has a story....

Personally, the young characters feel like they need to be in it more, as they are more niave and not as world knowledgable, so it makes a gd main character, who has to have everythign explained to them
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"]Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanblademasterx
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Well...would you rather have a young or older character? Younger is better as it makes it seem they will be inexperienced and lower powered than a beefy man of 40.

on a role playing game standard. Yes.I would choose the younger character because i make's me feel like im in the game plus younger people make better lead character's in role playing games right?

Kmon,how the hell vaan,only before the game starts(when he join with the others) fights with rats,a 16 year old boy can make a mega tornado or throws great balls of fire(pyroclasm)only fighting with fiends 3 maybe 4 weeks after he involved in the game.this isnt logic,i know its a final fantasy and anything can happen,but a 16 years old boy with 3 weeks of training throw a tornado from the body himself without magic(like aeroga),its rare.The same as penelo,i dont think she training before the game .

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[QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]So....according to your logic, Basch could never have his own game. [QUOTE="blademasterx"]wake up!where in a new day and age when image count's in our games today.Of course you could pull off the 40 year old in a nes to a super nintendo game because nobody really give's a crap what the character look's like.Long as the game is fun.But today the character's have to and i repeat have to look young and cool.I mean just picture a 36 year old dude playing tidus or vaan's role in there game's i personally will find the game uninteresting and pretty much dumb.Square know's exactly what there doing so i would not like any rpg's with a 25 year old fart like i said before.-weezer-

No!i already hate basch he is by far the most uninteresting character in final fantasy(beside's penelo)im saying a final fantasy game with basch as main lead.Will lead square to desaster.

You're saying Basch couldn't be a lead character because he's uninteresting? He's a lot more interesting than Vaan. I'd rather have Basch be a main character than Vaan. At least he has a story....

i agree

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I preferable don't like some young characters. I mean Tidus was sooo winny. I think 18-22 is a good range.
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#28 fs_metal
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Vaan is a good character. I am sick of hearing how he is not involved, among other things, from people that just didn't pay ernough attention
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Vaan is a good character. I am sick of hearing how he is not involved, among other things, from people that just didn't pay ernough attentionfs_metal
I'm not all the way through the game yet, but from where I am now, I can tell that the story would have been just as good without him. I think the only reason he's in it is because they need a young lead character. That's just my theory.
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Vaan is a good character. I am sick of hearing how he is not involved, among other things, from people that just didn't pay ernough attention-weezer-
I'm not all the way through the game yet, but from where I am now, I can tell that the story would have been just as good without him. I think the only reason he's in it is because they need a young lead character. That's just my theory.

MNo it wouldn't because it would take away all the early drama between him and Basch, which is a big part of hte story early on
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Vaan is a good character. I am sick of hearing how he is not involved, among other things, from people that just didn't pay ernough attentionfs_metal

vaan is too younger for the history,a 19 year old boy would it better

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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Vaan is a good character. I am sick of hearing how he is not involved, among other things, from people that just didn't pay ernough attentionholywin

vaan is too younger for the history,a 19 year old boy would it better

Vaan is 17. There isn't much difference between that and 19.

*SPOILERS*

He still thought Basch killed his brother. If you take him out of the story, that doesn't happen, and the story is not as good as a result
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i say this:in ff1 the characters age are 32 (aprox) in ff4,30.In ff6,24,in ff7,21,in ff8 i dont know cause i want buy a original so i dont have the ff8 ,in ff9 has 16 and other characters are 6!!!in ff12,vaan has 15.Kmon,in the next final fantasies the hero is a ten years boy??mmm...

holywin

I didn't notice that, but now I do. The next one will be 12 years old.

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SE makes young characters because most of the audience is young... they try to make characters relatable to thos who play it, and since most players are in the ages of 16-21 so they make their main characters on that age span. Also these games are very "pop-cultured", and that means young atractive people (with the exception of a few cool characters in every other game like Basch and Auron). So doesnt matter how much you complain... the youngsters are still gonna keep coming (look at both FFXIII, neither of them looks older than 21), so all were left to do is enjoy them ^^.

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SE makes young characters because most of the audience is young... they try to make characters relatable to thos who play it, and since most players are in the ages of 16-21 so they make their main characters on that age span. Also these games are very "pop-cultured", and that means young atractive people (with the exception of a few cool characters in every other game like Basch and Auron). So doesnt matter how much you complain... the youngsters are still gonna keep coming (look at both FFXIII, neither of them looks older than 21), so all were left to do is enjoy them ^^.

gilbertus

that is very true. most people that buy the FF's are around 16-20. they probably still keep the main characters around that age group but you can count on others to be around 25-30. take a look at Auron and Basch, theyre in their 30's and they are a couple of the most liked characters.

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#36 IpodHero176
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SE makes young characters because most of the audience is young... they try to make characters relatable to thos who play it, and since most players are in the ages of 16-21 so they make their main characters on that age span. Also these games are very "pop-cultured", and that means young atractive people (with the exception of a few cool characters in every other game like Basch and Auron). So doesnt matter how much you complain... the youngsters are still gonna keep coming (look at both FFXIII, neither of them looks older than 21), so all were left to do is enjoy them ^^.

gilbertus

Good point.

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[QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"]Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanfs_metal
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Well...would you rather have a young or older character? Younger is better as it makes it seem they will be inexperienced and lower powered than a beefy man of 40.

on a role playing game standard. Yes.I would choose the younger character because i make's me feel like im in the game plus younger people make better lead character's in role playing games right?

No they don't, and Final Fantasy Tactics is proof

Well.I would not know because the first final fantasy i ever played was 8.
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[QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"]Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanholywin

What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Well...would you rather have a young or older character? Younger is better as it makes it seem they will be inexperienced and lower powered than a beefy man of 40.

on a role playing game standard. Yes.I would choose the younger character because i make's me feel like im in the game plus younger people make better lead character's in role playing games right?

Kmon,how the hell vaan,only before the game starts(when he join with the others) fights with rats,a 16 year old boy can make a mega tornado or throws great balls of fire(pyroclasm)only fighting with fiends 3 maybe 4 weeks after he involved in the game.this isnt logic,i know its a final fantasy and anything can happen,but a 16 years old boy with 3 weeks of training throw a tornado from the body himself without magic(like aeroga),its rare.The same as penelo,i dont think she training before the game .

Well.I think the final fantasy12 manual book or website said that penelo's brother's taught her how to fight so that comment is invalid.
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#39 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="blademasterx"][QUOTE="liquid_s"]Would you rather play with a teenage girl all night, or play with an old middle aged woman all night? .....and yes im meaning what you think i meanblademasterx
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?

Well...would you rather have a young or older character? Younger is better as it makes it seem they will be inexperienced and lower powered than a beefy man of 40.

on a role playing game standard. Yes.I would choose the younger character because i make's me feel like im in the game plus younger people make better lead character's in role playing games right?

No they don't, and Final Fantasy Tactics is proof

Well.I would not know because the first final fantasy i ever played was 8.

What does that have to do with whether or not you have played Final Fantasy Tactics
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#40 blademasterx
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ohh.i mistyped what i mean the answer is no i never played final fantasy tactics so i would not know.
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In that case, I would highly HIGHLY recommend it. It is a masterwork
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In that case, I would highly HIGHLY recommend it. It is a masterworkfs_metal
then i'll get it then the one for gba was awsome so.When i find one i'll get it then.
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#43 fs_metal
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The one for hte GBA isn't anything like this game. It is vastly inferior
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#44 blademasterx
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The one for hte GBA isn't anything like this game. It is vastly inferiorfs_metal
well...i enjoyed it so i think it deserves a ten out of ten.
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#45 fs_metal
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It pretty much lacked story. What little story it had was a rip off of The Neverending Story.
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It pretty much lacked story. What little story it had was a rip off of The Neverending Story.fs_metal
well what do you expect from a handheld game everything can't be perfect especailly for a gba game.

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#47 fs_metal
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I don't expect a game to rip off a childrens movie, especially a Final Fantasy game. Just because an RPG is handheld, it does not mean it has to have any less of a good story. Take Golden Sun for example
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I don't expect a game to rip off a childrens movie, especially a Final Fantasy game. Just because an RPG is handheld, it does not mean it has to have any less of a good story. Take Golden Sun for examplefs_metal
Now that is a legendary game, maybe one of the best RPGs I have played
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I don't expect a game to rip off a childrens movie, especially a Final Fantasy game. Just because an RPG is handheld, it does not mean it has to have any less of a good story. Take Golden Sun for exampleliquid_s
Now that is a legendary game, maybe one of the best RPGs I have played

Golden Sun Oh hell yeah. I love that game.
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#50 TheForgotten0ne
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The age is apart of the story. Tidus is a younger person, and you understand why in the story. He is trying to understand his way in life, Auron is trying to teach, and he's older right!?