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#1 sion1
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a question about XII
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#2 fs_metal
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Nothing
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#3 Darmi
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For me, the story was not as enjoyable as other FF stories.
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#4 blademasterx
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For me, the story was not as enjoyable as other FF stories.Darmi
agreed,and vayne was kind of a lame villian in my opinion.
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#5 angelbless
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For me the problem was the characters, I didnt enjoy the game cause of the lack of deep feeling that they had
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#6 Duo_Haggard
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I didn't really find nothing wrong with it, at first I thought it lacked the magic or Final Fantasy but then again I realized that it was because I had the sub-titles off and they talk kinda funny so I had a hard time getting into it, and understanding what the heck was going on like with Dr.Cid, OMFG, i didn't understand a word coming out of his mouth...
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For me the problem was the characters, I didnt enjoy the game cause of the lack of deep feeling that they hadangelbless
tottaly agreed even FFIX characters were better than that
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#8 eztarg8
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The characters were great, it's just that they did nothing cool in the story
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#9 blademasterx
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The characters were great, it's just that they did nothing cool in the storyeztarg8
so true.
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#10 kinetic-core
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something cool? Like getting killed by some dude with a hellish long sword?
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#11 Duo_Haggard
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I thought some of the cooler charachters were actually the Judges, they seemed to have had a little more oomph than the mains in my perspective...
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#12 kinetic-core
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yes, and for the first time, an NPC with a not-too-big role became my fav char in FFXII - Gabranth
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#13 Duo_Haggard
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Yeah, Gabranth was brutal especially when he executed that female Judge (can't really remember her name) but yeah, really brutal....
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#14 blademasterx
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something cool? Like getting killed by some dude with a hellish long sword?kinetic-core
yep,you pretty much took the words out of my mouth kc.
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#15 kinetic-core
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right.... apparently, having a nice hairstyle makes characters cool too.

Judge Drace i think. Can't remember too. You see, that's the whole point, it's kinda hard to remember politics. And i think it was brutal to Gabranth instead. I don't think he wanted to kill her, but he wanted to protect Larsa, indeed.

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#16 blademasterx
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oh yeah i love the characters with long hair and leather jackets/coats with a blade and a motorcycle they define the word cool.
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#17 kinetic-core
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who has long hair, a leather jacket and a harley davidson? Although that'd be cool, in some way
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#18 blademasterx
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who has long hair, a leather jacket and a harley davidson? Although that'd be cool, in some waykinetic-core
no one in particular in the ff universe but ff7 characters come close with the overdone leather look.well i think sephiroth and genesis is the only ppl with leather on.but cloud has a motorcycle with 7 blades in one blade so thats cool in my opinion.
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#19 STK3000
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too linear the only other thing you could do was hunt which was basically boss fights when you felt like it i thought it could have had more side stories
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#20 Duo_Haggard
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too linear the only other thing you could do was hunt which was basically boss fights when you felt like it i thought it could have had more side storiesSTK3000
hmmm....yeah, but then again I think Square kinda focused on the story for this one, cuz it was a little complex, the whole political side of it I think...
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#21 kinetic-core
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story-wise, it wasn't really linear, there are things you don't expect that happen, and the politics just make things harder to understand, which is probably not liked by younger players.

Well now, it couldn't be more linear than FFX can it?

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#22 blademasterx
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yeah,my cousin is like 16 and he did not like ff12 story i guess he was to used to the pretty boy villians with blades or outragous hair.
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#23 fs_metal
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story-wise, it wasn't really linear, there are things you don't expect that happen, and the politics just make things harder to understand, which is probably not liked by younger players.

Well now, it couldn't be more linear than FFX can it?

kinetic-core

Nothing could ever be more linear than FFX.

I don't know why sop many people have trouble understanding the story. I mean, it's more mature, but that doesn't make it harder to comprehend

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#24 Duo_Haggard
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[QUOTE="kinetic-core"]

story-wise, it wasn't really linear, there are things you don't expect that happen, and the politics just make things harder to understand, which is probably not liked by younger players.

Well now, it couldn't be more linear than FFX can it?

fs_metal

Nothing could ever be more linear than FFX.

I don't know why sop many people have trouble understanding the story. I mean, it's more mature, but that doesn't make it harder to comprehend

True, True...

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#25 Darmi
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I understand the story, I just don't like it.
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#26 blademasterx
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I understand the story, I just don't like it.Darmi
yeah me ether its an ok story but ffx story blew it out the water in my eyes.
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#27 Duo_Haggard
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I think all the FF each have good stories, no one better or no one worse...in my opinion
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#28 fs_metal
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I understand the story, I just don't like it.Darmi
But it was expertly written and absolutely brilliant dude
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#29 DJ-Lafleur
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Well, it's the story for me. I'm not a huge fan of politics at all, and sometimes the story got a little confusing to me, and the fact that I turned off subtitles and had a hard time understanding characters sometimes didn't help. What made me enjoy FFXII was all the side quests you could do, really.
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#30 Duo_Haggard
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Well, it's the story for me. I'm not a huge fan of politics at all, and sometimes the story got a little confusing to me, and the fact that I turned off subtitles and had a hard time understanding characters sometimes didn't help. What made me enjoy FFXII was all the side quests you could do, really.DJ-Lafleur
Yeah, play through it again with the sub-titles, it makes it way more understandable, literally...
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#31 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]Well, it's the story for me. I'm not a huge fan of politics at all, and sometimes the story got a little confusing to me, and the fact that I turned off subtitles and had a hard time understanding characters sometimes didn't help. What made me enjoy FFXII was all the side quests you could do, really.Duo_Haggard
Yeah, play through it again with the sub-titles, it makes it way more understandable, literally...

I'm sure it would help, but I don't feel like playing it again.

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#32 Duo_Haggard
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oh....I always liked playing them over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. I don't know how many times I've beaten VII or VIII, or IX, or even X...
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#33 fs_metal
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There are very very few RPGs that I have beaten more than once. KOTOR, Diablo, Diablo II. I think that may be it
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#34 blademasterx
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ppl in this union like star wars man i could never understand the craze over that.
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#35 fs_metal
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Good stories. Good characters. Intereating world.s Tons of variation in the galaxies. Well put togetehr societies. Interesting races. What's NOT to love about SW?
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#36 kinetic-core
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you two better control yourself better, here's the first caution. :roll:

I'd say it takes ANYONE to understand FFXII's story, but to really go into it and watch every single move and understand every single story event which leads to another, it takes another type of mind to comprehend this. I'm sure fs is the latter, since he's standing by FFXII's story so strongly. I am, too. In fact, it may not be the best, but it definitely ranks high up there in political storylines.

Just that, it's not really very enjoyable. I can play anything before FFXII over and over although the stories are expected and simple. But, there's the simple beauty in games with stories like them. Simple, yet enjoyable stories. FFXII, complicated,and necessary for a few play throughs tointerpret every part of the storyit fully.

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#37 iowastate
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the story and characters were great...what I didn't like was the battle system...too easy.
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#38 Duo_Haggard
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The way I understand a story is through dialogue and when the subs were cut off then I couldn't really make out what they were saying it all sounded like, "We shall war Archadia with thus then shall Empire," I didn't know what the hell was going on but the graphics were beautiful... and after I said F*** it I'm turnin the subs on then it started coming into better view but I didn't really get the whole things so I'm playing through it again....
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#39 maniamsmart
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ok well i agree that the FFX story was one of the bests and i admit that some parts of FFX made my eyes watery and not only if the story makes u cry is good but u have to undertsnad the story if you dont unerstand the story than its bad and if u dont understand the concept with Sin and Jecht and the switching of time periods its alos less intressting i say FFX is the number one story of any FF in MY OPINION !!! and alos yes i love star wars

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#40 Darmi
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[QUOTE="Darmi"]I understand the story, I just don't like it.fs_metal
But it was expertly written and absolutely brilliant dude

Yeah, it was well written. I still don't like it though. Characters weren't interesting enough in my opinion.

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Well, some games I'll play over again, others I won't. For me it depends more on the gameplay than stories when it comes to another playthrough. A story is usually the same thing in a game no matter how many times you play it, while in gameplay you can usually do many different things to power your characters and many fun ways to strengthen your party. If the gameplay is fun enough, I'll give it another playthrough, basically.
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#42 Duo_Haggard
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Well, some games I'll play over again, others I won't. For me it depends more on the gameplay than stories when it comes to another playthrough. A story is usually the same thing in a game no matter how many times you play it, while in gameplay you can usually do many different things to power your characters and many fun ways to strengthen your party. If the gameplay is fun enough, I'll give it another playthrough, basically.DJ-Lafleur
Yeah I always go through a second time with a strategy guide and pick up all the stuff I missed and make my guys super powerful
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#43 maniamsmart
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]Well, some games I'll play over again, others I won't. For me it depends more on the gameplay than stories when it comes to another playthrough. A story is usually the same thing in a game no matter how many times you play it, while in gameplay you can usually do many different things to power your characters and many fun ways to strengthen your party. If the gameplay is fun enough, I'll give it another playthrough, basically.Duo_Haggard
Yeah I always go through a second time with a strategy guide and pick up all the stuff I missed and make my guys super powerful

yeah thats what i do also
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#44 Darmi
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]Well, some games I'll play over again, others I won't. For me it depends more on the gameplay than stories when it comes to another playthrough. A story is usually the same thing in a game no matter how many times you play it, while in gameplay you can usually do many different things to power your characters and many fun ways to strengthen your party. If the gameplay is fun enough, I'll give it another playthrough, basically.Duo_Haggard
Yeah I always go through a second time with a strategy guide and pick up all the stuff I missed and make my guys super powerful

Me too. I haven't with FFXII though.

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[QUOTE="Duo_Haggard"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]Well, some games I'll play over again, others I won't. For me it depends more on the gameplay than stories when it comes to another playthrough. A story is usually the same thing in a game no matter how many times you play it, while in gameplay you can usually do many different things to power your characters and many fun ways to strengthen your party. If the gameplay is fun enough, I'll give it another playthrough, basically.Darmi

Yeah I always go through a second time with a strategy guide and pick up all the stuff I missed and make my guys super powerful

Me too. I haven't with FFXII though.

I have, and it's so cool, I love it, but my PS3 is in the pawn shop so I gotta get it out soon before they sell it....:shock:
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[QUOTE="Duo_Haggard"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]Well, some games I'll play over again, others I won't. For me it depends more on the gameplay than stories when it comes to another playthrough. A story is usually the same thing in a game no matter how many times you play it, while in gameplay you can usually do many different things to power your characters and many fun ways to strengthen your party. If the gameplay is fun enough, I'll give it another playthrough, basically.Darmi

Yeah I always go through a second time with a strategy guide and pick up all the stuff I missed and make my guys super powerful

Me too. I haven't with FFXII though.

Well, I basically did mostly all side stuff in XII my first playthrough, so I don't have much reason to start XII now.

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#47 angelbless
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yes, and for the first time, an NPC with a not-too-big role became my fav char in FFXII - Gabranthkinetic-core

Yes!!!for me was Gilgamesh though :P

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#48 Duo_Haggard
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oh yeah Gilgamesh was cool, kinda funny too
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oh yeah Gilgamesh was cool, kinda funny tooDuo_Haggard
in what FF is that?
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[QUOTE="Duo_Haggard"]oh yeah Gilgamesh was cool, kinda funny toomaniamsmart
in what FF is that?

ff5 and ff8 i like him in ff5.