WIOTW ~ New World Order ~ Vaizard Expansion?!

  • 65 results
  • 1
  • 2
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#1 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

This thread will follow the usual WIOTW rules. Please obey the TOS and Gotei rules, as well as the usual union event or competition thread rules. Lets debate and discuss this and have a blast! :)

 

What if....The vaizard created their own sepperate world (like hueco mundo or soul society...) and organization, simmilar to the shinigami or espadas, and started raising their numbers?!


What would their goals be? :O

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#2 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts
Well , having a huge world of their own ... I think they would let the hollow inside them go berserk for a little bit and destroy much of the landscape . I would imagine it to be like the moon ... full of holes from fights and craters and mountains that can disappear any moment XD .
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#3 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts
For one, ones like Hiyori who actually like violence...dont have to hold back...they can "spar" all out and not worry about destruction of environment...or restrictive barriers cast by another of their own kind....they can just go way out in the middle of nowhere and have a blast :O
Avatar image for dancingbeatle
dancingbeatle

20951

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 dancingbeatle
Member since 2006 • 20951 Posts
Their only goal so far was to get rid of Aizen. Afterwards maybe they would just fight whoever they consider an enemy.
Avatar image for jooja42animefan
jooja42animefan

8011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 jooja42animefan
Member since 2008 • 8011 Posts

Their only goal so far was to get rid of Aizen. Afterwards maybe they would just fight whoever they consider an enemy.dancingbeatle

But that leaves the question of who would they condsider to be enemies??  I mean once Aizen is dealt with then who would be next?

 

Avatar image for dancingbeatle
dancingbeatle

20951

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 dancingbeatle
Member since 2006 • 20951 Posts
Good question, would they attack hollows? Knowing that they too have those powers.
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#7 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

Actually, they were shinigami before, and they never lost the values they had as shinigami, they m ay have been hurt by them, and had some hatred for how they were treated, but they still seem to have alot of the same values.

 

I wonder if they'd also try to protect peace...but sepperate from the shinigami...perhaps more open minded and possibly fearful of prejudice O_o

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#8 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts

So they could also go back to Seireitei ... but this is not what we they are supposed to do here :P .

In they're own world they might organize a similar system like Gotei 13 ... but I doubt they wwould make other people go through that horrible danger when mastering the hollowfication ( or how is it called ...) even if they did help Ichigo .

Avatar image for dancingbeatle
dancingbeatle

20951

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 dancingbeatle
Member since 2006 • 20951 Posts
Their system of justice would possibly be different than the Seiretei's. Who would they protect peace from?
Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#10 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts

Well true ... but the Shinigami are also sent into the human world from time to time .

But the Vaizards might be sent into Hueco Mundo directly instead of the human world ... they might have missions to destroy Menos Grande before they form into more and more powerful beings . And also scout the area for remaining Vasto Lordes and dangerous enemies that could get in the way .

Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#11 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

Or they could end up effecting all 3 worlds...

 

Who would lead them?

Avatar image for dancingbeatle
dancingbeatle

20951

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12 dancingbeatle
Member since 2006 • 20951 Posts
Did they have a leader before? I thought Shinji was sort of their leader? Maybe it's more like a co-understanding.
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#13 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts
It was more of a mutual understanding thing. Shinji was their leader, but he was also laid back, he "took orders" as long as it didnt go too far or ruin anything. Case in point. Hiyori was able to boss him around untill she went too far. She even sent him on the mission to recruit ichigo. However. He was their leader when push came to shove. SO I'm thinking shinji would probably end up the leader in the end, perhaps with hiyori bullying her way to be his 2nd, and him perhaps allowing her to as long as she got the job done and didnt hurt anything un-nessisarilly.
Avatar image for dancingbeatle
dancingbeatle

20951

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#14 dancingbeatle
Member since 2006 • 20951 Posts
Would they have any large builds such as in the Seritei and H.M.?
Avatar image for Pain9000000
Pain9000000

21484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#15 Pain9000000
Member since 2008 • 21484 Posts

My personal opinon would be that they would train, trying to reach a level of power where they could maintain their hollow forms with no effort at all. Similar to DBZ when goku and gohan were super saiyans without any strain on their body. Once they accomplish this, I think they would possibly go after the soul society to get revenge for being kicked out for unjust reasons, even though later everyone knew it was Aizen's fault. Either that, or possibly they would reconcile with the seireitei and become their allies, but still keep their own seperate world to rule, seeing as it is still looked down upon to be a cross-bread. That's just what I think

Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#16 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

Then again, old man yammamoto is a strange one. He's thrown out the rule book on several occasions, yet he's also shown at times to be a stickler for tradition. He makes no sense.

 

Also. He had no problems teaming with the vaizard once they were discovered....even asking if they can call them friends...

 

That said, I would think they'd try to be allies, even if old man has to lie to C46 to avoid them getting antsy and causing trouble. XD

Avatar image for Pain9000000
Pain9000000

21484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#17 Pain9000000
Member since 2008 • 21484 Posts
Wait did they replace the central 46 people? cause they were all killed by Aizen before and I was not aware of them finding replacements
Avatar image for dancingbeatle
dancingbeatle

20951

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 dancingbeatle
Member since 2006 • 20951 Posts
That would be rad if they did replace them.
Avatar image for Pain9000000
Pain9000000

21484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#19 Pain9000000
Member since 2008 • 21484 Posts
So as far as we know they still haven't correct?
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#20 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

Warning, this is a spoiler, so I will try to put it in a spoiler thing.

 

[spoiler] Yes, they did replace the C46 ppl, who do you think rendered judgement on aizen after he was sealed? [/spoiler]

 

So there we go.

Avatar image for dancingbeatle
dancingbeatle

20951

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 dancingbeatle
Member since 2006 • 20951 Posts
I wonder if they would take out hollows or try to save them?
Avatar image for Pain9000000
Pain9000000

21484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#22 Pain9000000
Member since 2008 • 21484 Posts

Ahhhh ok, I just wasn't sure cause the last I heard gotei was making the decisions in C46's place

And I'm not sure, perhaps they would try to tame the hollows and turn them into arrancar's that can be used for good

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#23 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts

Why saving them ?? But it gives me ideas ... what if they somehow 'feed' hollows to the hollows inside them . It would be like normal Menos Grande develop , but inside their own body ... could be interesting :D

Avatar image for Pain9000000
Pain9000000

21484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#24 Pain9000000
Member since 2008 • 21484 Posts
Hmm...that would be interesting, but why would they do it. I mean even if they still have their shinigami virtues it would still be murdering of their own kind in a way
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#25 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

Arrancar and Vaizards are capable of controlling their urges. They regain proper concious thought (instead of a mockery of it) in exchange for their shinigami side.

 

Hollows are pretty much bundles of rage and violence. They are RUN by their darker urges. That said. They are little better than animals, while in that state. To regain their full sentience they must first convert to the vaizard/arrancar thing.

 

Perhaps they'd convert some to arrancar. Perhaps they would have both arrancar AND vaizard in their group? After all, any arrancar who survived, would be surrounded by mindless hungry beasts in hueco mundo, perhaps they'd be happier to be ammong other "full" sentients.

 

Also, I just realized something. Shinigami often times try to view things in "black and white". While the vaizard have been pretty much FORCED to fully realize the grey areas. That said. They  might accept ANY outcast who was given the boot by shinigami...provided they can be managed and worked with. Including shinigami who saw the bs and quit. :O

 

Here's some food for thought. :) Keep it up, this discussion is good.

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#26 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts

Hmm ... Thinking about the aspect of accepting other outcasts could be the solution for finding out the mystery of their world.

I think the name should sound something like that too . Perhaps Oasis ... or something much better XD . Actually their world should be called Oasis , where every outcast is welcome .

Avatar image for Pain9000000
Pain9000000

21484

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#27 Pain9000000
Member since 2008 • 21484 Posts

Hmm...I would live there, just saying lol.

Also, would they perhaps try to become more powerful then seireitei, not overthrow it, just become a fierce compeditor for domination over the worlds ya know?

Avatar image for Lotus-Edge
Lotus-Edge

50513

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 Lotus-Edge
Member since 2008 • 50513 Posts

1. Build aforementioned place.
2. Relax/fight.
3. ???
4. Profit!!!

Avatar image for jooja42animefan
jooja42animefan

8011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 jooja42animefan
Member since 2008 • 8011 Posts

Hmm...I would live there, just saying lol.

Also, would they perhaps try to become more powerful then seireitei, not overthrow it, just become a fierce compeditor for domination over the worlds ya know?

Pain9000000

What would be interesting perhaps would be if they did feed their inner hollows only use ones that were "evil" in nature to do so.. like the ones that are destined for the hell gates.   Then with this new strength from the feeding they would maybe join forces with the Arrancar and fight against anyone ot thing that is against the Seireitei, Human World, etc. ...

 

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#30 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts

I support that idea . But the ones destined for the hell are pretty rare ( at least in the story ) ... so it might get problematic.

I think they should have a 'farm' where they grow hollows (like pigs ) and eat them when they get nice and strong :D . But perhaps in a less funny way XD .

Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#31 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

I dont think that could be less funny XD

 

dont forget the downside tohollow devouring each other. The constant risk of regression and losing their mind.

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#32 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts
Hmm ... perhaps they could be put in seperate rooms ( well ... at least a wooden thing between them or something ) . Like a profesional farm .
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#33 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts
you forgot to answer the part I brought up though :P the downside to hollow devouring...:P
Avatar image for jooja42animefan
jooja42animefan

8011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 jooja42animefan
Member since 2008 • 8011 Posts

Oh Wait... I have an idea of how to overcome that little part... you know how Szayel eats those ball like things that are/were creatures?  Well what if that's how the eating of hollows to sustain themselves worked... Szayel only gets healed or stronger by doing that and never regressed... :P

 

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#35 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts
About making them balls . Perhaps a technique can be made to make them any kind of food . Similar to transforming them into that ball , they could be transformed in something appetizing . Actually they should be used as ingredients in food . Something like Ramen with hollow bits XD ... that will increase you're strength .
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#36 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

*thought bubble appears over my head*

Shinji: Hey, Hiyori, want some bacon-bits in your salad?

Hiyori: Nah, I'd rather hollow-bits.

*thought bubble pops...*

 

Yes, I pictured that the moment he mentioned hollow bits...lmao.,...

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#37 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts

See ... it would actually be cool :D .

Oh and thinking this over ... it would become some sort of farmers . No more fighting ... just farming XD ... that would be such a waste for their strength .

Avatar image for jooja42animefan
jooja42animefan

8011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38 jooja42animefan
Member since 2008 • 8011 Posts

Well no they would still have to fight... since the only reason for the "farming" would be for their personal food source.  There would still be a need for battle because of all the other hollows out in the "wild" and not "domesticated".  ...Just think about it for a minute, a farm can't hold the entirety of hollows out there, correct? So the Vizards woud in theory be out "hunting" and bringing the hollows to justice for lack of a better word usage and either sending them to the SS or the Hell Gate, depending on if they were good or evil before they died as humans.

 

Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#39 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

Hmm, interesting theories. A little off in left field XD but funy to discuss so worth it :P

 

any other ideas besides the hollow farm? XD What if SS used them as a sort of sepperate special forces? :O Not technically affiliated with SS...so the C46 guys cant bark orders :O

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#40 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts

Like super secret assassins ? Cool ... ( or to be more exact... Black Ops ... or in Anime style ... ANBU :P )

SoiFons squad is pretty much assassin , but they are not so secret or strong (except SoiFon herself ) . The Vaizards might have their own world easily accesable for SS in order to get asignments , or perhaps a special delivery service , like the Hell Buterfly that can travel easily through worlds .

Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#41 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts
yeah, that'd be highly effective. the other downside to SS's normal spec ops is that C46 controls them, and C46 has been shown to be arrogant at times.
Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#42 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts
Thinking about them as assassins ... are they actually fit for something like that ? I don't really think they are all that sneaky .
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#43 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

no, they have soi fon's squad for the sneaky ones...(although they have to answer to C46...but soi fon herself can do the sneakyness to not get caught by them...)

 

No, you dont have to be sneaky to be an assassin, just assassinate the target.

Avatar image for optimuserik
optimuserik

339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#44 optimuserik
Member since 2009 • 339 Posts
Ah yes , but those are more mercenaries . Anyhow I did confuse them with ninjas . But I think mercenaries would fit them better . Mercenaries with awesome masks :D .
Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#45 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts
The less-sneaky spec-ops, thats not technically affiliated with the shinigami, therefore C46 cant step in and have any say on the matter. :P That'd be unstoppable...
Avatar image for jooja42animefan
jooja42animefan

8011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#46 jooja42animefan
Member since 2008 • 8011 Posts

Indeed, spec-ops aren as sneaky but they sure as hell get the job done... look at the SEALS in the US Navy, or the Green Berret in the Army.  

The Vizards could definately work like they do and go in, extract any captives or dispatch the enemies in a timely manner and then get the hell out before the enemies know what hit them. 

 

Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#47 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts

Now just imagine if someone actually developped the capacity to face them. And their services became more needed. Would there be tension? Most shinigami are taught to kill all hollows without hesitation. Even if the captains and LT's (and ones like ikkaku), accept them....what about the underlings? Will they have to worry about internal conflict?!

 

What about the C46....perhaps the vaizards would have to live like outcasts or criminals while secretly working for yamma and/or urahara....

 

There's something to think about....maybe that could be why they needed their own world to begin with O_o

Avatar image for jooja42animefan
jooja42animefan

8011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#48 jooja42animefan
Member since 2008 • 8011 Posts

Hmm, well who says that they would only have to go after hollows? I mean really, there are a variety of enemies out there after-all. Traitor shinigami, creatures like the bountos, and other such things... so if the Vizards were truely Spec-Ops then they would have to deal with such issues, which would be more important or as important as hollows.

Don't they already live like outcasts more or less, I mean they don't reside in the SS, but in the human world in Kisuke's hidden underground location... so yeah, your last idea Dao wasn't all that thought provoking to me anyway, but perhaps it woud be to some others here in the union.  

 

Avatar image for daorack
daorack

4344

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#49 daorack
Member since 2005 • 4344 Posts
ah, true, but the difference was they were able to hide. The concept I was bringing forth was: now C46 knows what to look for, knows they are alive, and knows roughly where they are. They cant hide there anymore. Their security has been compromised. They now would have to either fight or find an alternative. :P
Avatar image for jooja42animefan
jooja42animefan

8011

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#50 jooja42animefan
Member since 2008 • 8011 Posts

That's true, I forgot about that little factoid... Hmm... well you know how Hachi can create barriers, maybe he could create a barrier that would keep the C-46 from locating them no matter where they are, but it out on the field doing rescues or battles or just kicking back at their hideout.