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#1 woodmeist
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It was late last night and I was sailing around WW. I came across Greatfish Island, for those who do not know or have forgotten, it was said to be the place where Jabun resided until Ganon returned and destroyed the Island, leaving it (literally) in peices, forcing Jabun to leave for Outset. A thought struck me while wandering/swimming around what was left of it, why wasn't this Island included to have a dungeon. I mean out of all the Islands in WW this one has to be the gloomiest and most atmospheric. It would have been the perfect setting for a dungeon. Jabun couldve been the sage and your prize for freeing him from Ganon's power coulda been the Pearl. Also the item you obtained in the dungeon could of been the bombs, this would essentially rid the game of the extremely long mini-quest, sail from Greatfish to Windfall, then to Outset (which is the other side of the map). Now every time I see Greatfish Island I feel a great sadness that it was not used (IMO) to its full potential. Does anyone else feel this way? Maybe it's just me....

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#2 morbious17
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Since Ganon destroyed the island, I'm guessing if there was a dungeon, it would've been destroyed too.
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#3 woodmeist
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Since Ganon destroyed the island, I'm guessing if there was a dungeon, it would've been destroyed too.morbious17

Yes, Ganon did destroy the Island. But if he hadnt then Jabun and the dungeon would both be there.

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[QUOTE="morbious17"]Since Ganon destroyed the island, I'm guessing if there was a dungeon, it would've been destroyed too.woodmeist

Yes, Ganon did destroy the Island. But if he hadnt then Jabun and the dungeon would both be there.

Ya it would have been cool to have a dungeon there, but as it's been said it was destroyed and most likely along with it the dungeon.

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#5 Lloyd117
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would`ve been cool.but where would it be, if there was 1?Under water?
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#6 ArranTehN00b
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It could have been like the Water Temple from OoT!!! Maybe there was a dungeon in the beta version of the game.
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#7 metalsamurai
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I just didn't think that there were enough dungeons in Wind Waker. Even though Majora's Mask had less, I felt more dissapointed with Wind Waker. I wonder if Jabun's Belly could've been a dungeon; just imagine what they could do with those graphics! I also think Hyrule Castle should've been a dungeon, or that there should have been a dungeon in Hyrule somewhere.
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#8 ArranTehN00b
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Ganon's Tower was in Hyrule.
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#9 metalsamurai
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Ganon's Tower was in Hyrule.ArranTehN00b

I don't really consider it a real dungeon. Here's what I consider a real dungeon: a place with a map, compass, mini-boss (although not always), and a final boss. Ganon's Tower was more like a final area to me, not a dungeon. In Ocarina of Time, I didn't consider Ice Cavern and Under the Well to be dungeons because they had no bosses, I thought of them more as mini-dungeons. I also didn't consider Ganon's Castle to be a dungeon either. You don't have to agree with me, I'm just making my point.

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#10 ArranTehN00b
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I agree, though. TWW didn't have nearly enough dungeons, and they weren't nearly as big or hard enough.
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#11 KenTa_613
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did anyone visit the island before it was destroyed? or when u visit its already destroyed?
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#12 ArranTehN00b
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It's destroyed when you get there. You can't go before it gets destroyed, because the boat doesn't let you, telling you that you are going offcourse.
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#13 morbious17
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I thought it was a real drag that you couldn't go anywhere you wanted until later in the game.
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#14 KenTa_613
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I thought it was a real drag that you couldn't go anywhere you wanted until later in the game.morbious17
ya that sux...
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I thought the constant thunder storm after you first visit was pretty cool.
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#16 Barmy_Brat
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Using AR, it is possible to get to Greatfish before you are supposed to. Even then, its destroyed. Because of the fact that you were never supposed to pas it before that point in the game, they didn't bother making a non-destroyed version.
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#17 morbious17
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Using AR, it is possible to get to Greatfish before you are supposed to. Even then, its destroyed. Because of the fact that you were never supposed to pas it before that point in the game, they didn't bother making a non-destroyed version.Barmy_Brat
What's AR?
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#18 Barmy_Brat
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Action Replay. Its a cheating device.

You can get a code that disables KoRL's message of 'You've gone too far', thus allowing you to explore the Great Sea earlier than the programmers desired.

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#19 ugalova1
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it needed more dungeons deffinetly and maybe more and harder bosses
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#20 morbious17
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Action Replay. Its a cheating device.

You can get a code that disables KoRL's message of 'You've gone too far', thus allowing you to explore the Great Sea earlier than the programmers desired.

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Cheater!!
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#21 KenTa_613
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Using AR, it is possible to get to Greatfish before you are supposed to. Even then, its destroyed. Because of the fact that you were never supposed to pas it before that point in the game, they didn't bother making a non-destroyed version.Barmy_Brat
damn that showed no effort what so ever.
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#22 morbious17
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They really should've made a non-destroyed version.
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#23 queen_valentine
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I always thought that Greatfish Island should've been a dungeon. It seemed stupid to me that you just have to go to Jabun and he automatically gives you the pearl.
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#24 morbious17
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I always thought that Greatfish Island should've been a dungeon. It seemed stupid to me that you just have to go to Jabun and he automatically gives you the pearl.queen_valentine
I agree. It was too easy.
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#25 hermanson
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well hopfully we will be challenged more in TP
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#26 morbious17
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I'm looking forward to it.
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#27 tannernin
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i think it would be cool. Even thoug the chances are 1 to 1,000,000,000 maybe there is one and some how you can unlock it. For example beat it without dying 3 times.
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#28 hermanson
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I'm looking forward to it.morbious17

ya me too

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[QUOTE="morbious17"]I'm looking forward to it.hermanson

ya me too

Too bad it can't be released any sooner.
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#30 BurningDragoon
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[QUOTE="queen_valentine"]I always thought that Greatfish Island should've been a dungeon. It seemed stupid to me that you just have to go to Jabun and he automatically gives you the pearl.morbious17
I agree. It was too easy.


agreed.
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#31 morbious17
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If there was a non-destroyed version of the island, what would it look like?
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#32 hermanson
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i'm thinking an island with a cave that way Jabun had a place to live.
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#33 morbious17
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I'd like to be able to climb it.
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#34 Link_Soul
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I'd like to be able to climb it.morbious17

M2

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#35 BurningDragoon
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I'd like to be able to climb it.morbious17

i also would like to.

I was there for an hour trying to climb it, though i was not able to do anything...
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#36 ukguvnor
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Good thought woodmeist :)
Thinking about what you said, it reminded me of dungeon 6, the Mire Swamp, from ALttP. That had a lot of atmosphere, it was very dark and dank, and perhaps Greatfish Isle could have been given a dungeon similar to that.
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#37 morbious17
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[QUOTE="morbious17"]I'd like to be able to climb it.BurningDragoon

i also would like to.

I was there for an hour trying to climb it, though i was not able to do anything...

:lol:
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#38 BurningDragoon
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yeah i was pissed off. Then i got out of there to see if another item would let me in...after that i discovered that i couldnt.

I didnt like it cause that would be a great dungeon, i was sad... :(
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#39 morbious17
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yeah i was pissed off. Then i got out of there to see if another item would let me in...after that i discovered that i couldnt.

I didnt like it cause that would be a great dungeon, i was sad... :(
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I was disappointed too.
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#40 metalsamurai
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Wind Waker definitely was a dissapointment when it came to dungeons. I think there should have been a dungeon in Hyrule Castle. Also, imagine a dungeon that you had to take the King of Red Lions all the way through! Just picture this: There are ramps that lead up to higher floors, and there are fans that generate wind a the bottom of them. You use them with your sail to go up the ramp. Then there are waterfalls in the dungeon that when you go down them, you aren't able to get back to where you were without solving a puzzle. Also, you sail and jump over gaps in the water where two water falls face each other. Then there are obstacles where you have to get out of the boat and go on land to destroy in some way so your boat can go through. Does this make sense to you?
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#41 morbious17
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The closest thing to a dungeon in Hyrule Castle was where you got the Master Sword.
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#42 duckshack123
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Since Ganon destroyed the island, I'm guessing if there was a dungeon, it would've been destroyed too.morbious17
probably
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#43 morbious17
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[QUOTE="morbious17"]Since Ganon destroyed the island, I'm guessing if there was a dungeon, it would've been destroyed too.duckshack123
probably

I thought it made sense.
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#44 Link_Soul
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The closest thing to a dungeon in Hyrule Castle was where you got the Master Sword.morbious17

Yes but that is because you were in the Hyrule Catsle!!

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#45 BurningDragoon
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The location of the master sword has changed many times...

Yet i find that the best location was in OOT.
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#46 IkeXC07
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The location of the master sword has changed many times...

Yet i find that the best location was in OOT.
BurningDragoon

I agree 100%.

OOT is just a fantastic game.

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#47 morbious17
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OoT is a fantastic game.

Anyways, I would've liked to be able to go underwater. Link should've been able to do that. I always wanted to see how deep it really was. :(

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#48 hermanson
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Wind Waker definitely was a dissapointment when it came to dungeons. I think there should have been a dungeon in Hyrule Castle. Also, imagine a dungeon that you had to take the King of Red Lions all the way through! Just picture this: There are ramps that lead up to higher floors, and there are fans that generate wind a the bottom of them. You use them with your sail to go up the ramp. Then there are waterfalls in the dungeon that when you go down them, you aren't able to get back to where you were without solving a puzzle. Also, you sail and jump over gaps in the water where two water falls face each other. Then there are obstacles where you have to get out of the boat and go on land to destroy in some way so your boat can go through. Does this make sense to you?metalsamurai

that would have been a pretty cool dungeon.

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#49 morbious17
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There could've been a great dungeon there, but there wasn't one. :(