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#1 Barmy_Brat
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Midna is the strange creature, featured in the new LoZ:'05 trailer, who rides Link while in wolf form. She appears to give Wolf Link some strange powers, such as a massive, powerful-looking leap and the ability to zap enemies. What role does Midna play, and is she good or bad? Does the headpiece she wears have anything to do with Majora? Is she the Twilight Princess?

Discuss all things Midna here.

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guessing that Midna is chasing those werid black creatures dropped form the "black hole", and may be they are the origin of zelda/link's curse. the decoration and marks of her cloth looks like those in MM, could she be related to the creator of majora's mask? or majora's mask will be shown in twilight princess? it will be really nice if this game has some links to the MM

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#3 woodmeist
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Yes, this Midna fellow is very strange. Do you think it is possible that Midna could be an in-game character? I mean, perhaps Midna could control Wolf-Link in the same sort of way as Link rides Epona. It has also been stated that Midna is actually an enemy at the beggining but she/he frees Wolf-Link, they become partners and work together... I get overexctied everytime I think about this game and the possibilities.
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guessing that Midna is chasing those werid black creatures dropped form the "black hole", and may be they are the origin of zelda/link's curse. the decoration and marks of her cloth looks like those in MM, could she be related to the creator ofmajora's mask? or majora's mask will be shown in twilight princess? it will be really nice if this game has some links to the MM

IMperfectDARK

Ye! me too. MM mas is my favorite zelda, and i REALLY hope that Midna have a link to MM cause if you look, her eye is like Majora`s Mask. I will be IMPACTED, HAPPY, STUPID,etc if the game have links to Majora´s Mask.

Flame me if you want, i don`t care! But i am starting to think that Midna is Majoras mask!!!

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Srry i was exited.:)

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I just hope that she buggers off Wolf Link's back so he can run free like a real wolf. I've said this many times on these boards....
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I just hope that she buggers off Wolf Link's back so he can run free like a real wolf. I've said this many times on these boards....Astronomicus

it looks like you use midna's hair as a hand to open doors, and possibly attack, so that link can be more wolf like, but he/she is ugly, I think he should have been more like a wolfo so he could stand up to open doors and the like, but still be a wolf, I hope that the wolf is a fun addition that works well, and it isn't something that we will all fear, because I think it would be hard to make it control well.

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Maybe it's just me, but the big hand coming out of Midna's hat reminded me of the hands that come out of the floor of dungeons and grab you, and teleport you back to the beginning of the temple.
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Maybe it's just me, but the big hand coming out of Midna's hat reminded me of the hands that come out of the floor of dungeons and grab you, and teleport you back to the beginning of the temple.ZeldaFalcon

yes it does, Midna seems evil, so I wonder why he/she teems up with Link, although Link doesn't look as heroic when he's a wolf.

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#11 IMperfectDARK
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[QUOTE="IMperfectDARK"]

guessing that Midna is chasing those werid black creatures dropped form the "black hole", and may be they are the origin of zelda/link's curse. the decoration and marks of her cloth looks like those in MM, could she be related to the creator ofmajora's mask? or majora's mask will be shown in twilight princess? it will be really nice if this game has some links to the MM

Shacrob

Ye! me too. MM mas is my favorite zelda, and i REALLY hope that Midna have a link to MM cause if you look, her eye is like Majora`s Mask. I will be IMPACTED, HAPPY, STUPID,etc if the game have links to Majora´s Mask.

Flame me if you want, i don`t care! But i am starting to think that Midna is Majoras mask!!!

shacrob, nice to have my thinking be shared by u, yeah, MM is also my favorite zelda game and I do strongly hope twilight princess could be related to MM, since the released news tell it happens after OOT and before WW, besides twilight princess, what happened to link's adventure in this period? that's a personal travel involved by a MASK!! HOwever, Midna may not be the real origin or incarnation of Majora's mask(may be disappointing), if zelda's storyline strictly follows the offical manga(or vice versa) , the origin of Majora's mask was a dragon who controlled terminal field for centuries till it met a hermit hero, that hero beated drum melody and made the dragon danced for 3 days, the dragon died after the dance and the hero took out his feather-sword , cut the dragon's bone and sculpted majora's mask.

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#12 talon4001
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something that is much more likely than her being majora's mask is her being majora. But I doubt that she is, but with Nintendo you never know, I like zelda
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While Midna being Majora, or wearing Majora's Mask, would indeed be interesting, I highly doubt this will happen.

I actually believe Midna is the Twilight Princess, not Zelda. Midna's origin seems to be this Twilight realm, while Zelda needs a special cloak to survive there. This, and the fact that Midna is captured at the start of the game, lead me to believe that, while Midna may be evil, other dark forces are trying to destroy her. Thus, she was imprisoned. Still, it will be interesting to see what is revealed next about this misterious character.

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Is midna actually zelda in the twilight world? I wander...
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#15 talon4001
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I think that the hawk is either zelda or midna in the real world, and zelda is herself in the twilight world, the cloaked person of course
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#16 Barmy_Brat
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Is midna actually zelda in the twilight world? I wander...originalrage42

It has been confirmed that Midna is not Zelda. I also think the hawk theory has been disproven for Zelda.

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#17 talon4001
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also zelda has been shown in the twilight world, if there is a time that she isn't hylian it's in the normal world
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I think Midna was first part of the Twilight, but she turned on them because she did'nt agree with their ideas and joins link against them.
just like Tatl in MM, first she was with the Skull Kid and then joined Link
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While Midna being Majora, or wearing Majora's Mask, would indeed be interesting, I highly doubt this will happen.

I actually believe Midna is the Twilight Princess, not Zelda. Midna's origin seems to be this Twilight realm, while Zelda needs a special cloak to survive there. This, and the fact that Midna is captured at the start of the game, lead me to believe that, while Midna may be evil, other dark forces are trying to destroy her. Thus, she was imprisoned. Still, it will be interesting to see what is revealed next about this misterious character.

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You are absolutely right Barmy. I am 99.73% sure that Midna IS the Twilight Princess. Aonuma himself when asked about the name "Twilight Princess" said that it might very well not be Zelda. ...
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Well, Midna might be the Twilight Princess spoken of in the title, because, hey, she's a resident of the Twilight Realm, and maybe there was some kind of overthrow in whatever they have for royalty there. Only time, or magic8 balls, will tell.
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#21 woodmeist
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[QUOTE="Barmy_Brat"]

While Midna being Majora, or wearing Majora's Mask, would indeed be interesting, I highly doubt this will happen.

I actually believe Midna is the Twilight Princess, not Zelda. Midna's origin seems to be this Twilight realm, while Zelda needs a special cloak to survive there. This, and the fact that Midna is captured at the start of the game, lead me to believe that, while Midna may be evil, other dark forces are trying to destroy her. Thus, she was imprisoned. Still, it will be interesting to see what is revealed next about this misterious character.

nuck44



You are absolutely right Barmy. I am 99.73% sure that Midna IS the Twilight Princess. Aonuma himself when asked about the name "Twilight Princess" said that it might very well not be Zelda. ...

Yeah I noticed when Aonuma was asked that question, he had a very .... strange.. look to him, that man is definatley hiding something, something cool I bet.

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I believe that on G4 he said that zelda is one of the meanings of twilight princess.
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#23 KenTa_613
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midna is form the twilight realm i think
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#24 talon4001
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midna is form the twilight realm i thinkKenTa_613

no crap, in nintendo power it says that as soon you leave the twilight world she dissapears, and as soon as you go back in she shows up again

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A lot of speculation surrounds Links companion in the new Zelda game, Twilight Princess. We know that when Link enters the Twilight Realm, he turns into a wolf and is captured. Midna then finds him and frees him. They then spend the rest of their time in the Twilight Realm together. We have also heard that Midna will be able to go to normal Hyrule in some shape.

Its this last fact that brings about all the speculation. If Midna does not enter Hyrule as Midna, then what will she be. In the same way that Link is turned into a wolf, perhaps Midna will also be turned into an animal. Perhaps some kind of transportation, like Epona for example.

Other ideas suggest that Midna will take the role of some item that Link can use. All kinds of ideas have been floating around, including the essense of the Master Sword. However, the one that seems most probable to me is that Midna will take the shape of the Lens of Truth.

The reason for this is that in the E3 2005 trailer, there is a scene where Midna is riding wolf Link in a underground sewer of some kind. Everything seems normal but then Midna notices some skeletal pigs (or something like that) biting away at Link. If she can do this in the Twilight Realm, it makes sense that she has a similar role in Hyrule.

Also, about Midna being the Twilight Princess, I always thought Nintendo said Zelda was the Twiliht Princess, but if they said she was one of the meanings, then that has a completely different prospects. I remember Nintendo also said that the title would be mysterious at first but that you would come to understand it later. If Midna and Zelda are both Twilight Princesses, then that quote would make sense.

What do you think?
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A lot of speculation surrounds Links companion in the new Zelda game, Twilight Princess. We know that when Link enters the Twilight Realm, he turns into a wolf and is captured. Midna then finds him and frees him. They then spend the rest of their time in the Twilight Realm together. We have also heard that Midna will be able to go to normal Hyrule in some shape.

Its this last fact that brings about all the speculation. If Midna does not enter Hyrule as Midna, then what will she be. In the same way that Link is turned into a wolf, perhaps Midna will also be turned into an animal. Perhaps some kind of transportation, like Epona for example.

Other ideas suggest that Midna will take the role of some item that Link can use. All kinds of ideas have been floating around, including the essense of the Master Sword. However, the one that seems most probable to me is that Midna will take the shape of the Lens of Truth.

The reason for this is that in the E3 2005 trailer, there is a scene where Midna is riding wolf Link in a underground sewer of some kind. Everything seems normal but then Midna notices some skeletal pigs (or something like that) biting away at Link. If she can do this in the Twilight Realm, it makes sense that she has a similar role in Hyrule.

Also, about Midna being the Twilight Princess, I always thought Nintendo said Zelda was the Twiliht Princess, but if they said she was one of the meanings, then that has a completely different prospects. I remember Nintendo also said that the title would be mysterious at first but that you would come to understand it later. If Midna and Zelda are both Twilight Princesses, then that quote would make sense.

What do you think?
BobBond0011

Nintendo have more or less said that the Twilight Princess will be Zelda, they have said however that it will not be this simple. So Midna could also be a Twilight Princess... In the sewers those createures you see gnawing on Wolf Link are Rats, Ghost Rats.

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when I read your post I thought that maybe midna was the hawk, but that wouldn't make sense, because Link has the hawk in the village, which is before he meets her. about the sewer, it's possible that Link is the one with the ability to see ghosts, because midna looks very confused, and then scared when the ghosts appear.
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when I read your post I thought that maybe midna was the hawk, but that wouldn't make sense, because Link has the hawk in the village, which is before he meets her. about the sewer, it's possible that Link is the one with the ability to see ghosts, because midna looks very confused, and then scared when the ghosts appear.talon4001

probably.
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I kinda liked the idea of Midna becoming an item...
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[QUOTE="talon4001"]when I read your post I thought that maybe midna was the hawk, but that wouldn't make sense, because Link has the hawk in the village, which is before he meets her. about the sewer, it's possible that Link is the one with the ability to see ghosts, because midna looks very confused, and then scared when the ghosts appear.BurningDragoon

probably.



It's still possible that midna is the hawk even though they had already met in the normal world because at that point link had probably not been into the twilight world. Also, when midna first decides to ride "wolf link" their appears to be some familiarity there.
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All will be told in time. I personally, would love it if there were Majoras Mask references in the story, that is my favorite Zelda game so far.
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[QUOTE="KenTa_613"]midna is form the twilight realm i thinktalon4001

no crap, in nintendo power it says that as soon you leave the twilight world she dissapears, and as soon as you go back in she shows up again

ouch no need to get all verbal dude.

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#33 talon4001
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[QUOTE="talon4001"]

[QUOTE="KenTa_613"]midna is form the twilight realm i thinkKenTa_613

no crap, in nintendo power it says that as soon you leave the twilight world she dissapears, and as soon as you go back in she shows up again

ouch no need to get all verbal dude.

sorry

in a recent interview that can be found at www.gameinformer.com with anouma he said that Link and Midna are just using each other when they first meet, and later their relationship becomes more friendly.

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[QUOTE="BurningDragoon"][QUOTE="talon4001"]when I read your post I thought that maybe midna was the hawk, but that wouldn't make sense, because Link has the hawk in the village, which is before he meets her. about the sewer, it's possible that Link is the one with the ability to see ghosts, because midna looks very confused, and then scared when the ghosts appear.originalrage42

probably.



It's still possible that midna is the hawk even though they had already met in the normal world because at that point link had probably not been into the twilight world. Also, when midna first decides to ride "wolf link" their appears to be some familiarity there.

I agree. Maybe Link goes into the Twilight world because Midna as a hawk takes him there, or tricks him into going there.

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midna can be zelda because remember i oot she was shiek and no one expected it to be here so now probably in the twilight realm her diguise is midna
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Midna is the strange creature, featured in the new LoZ:'05 trailer, who rides Link while in wolf form. She appears to give Wolf Link some strange powers, such as a massive, powerful-looking leap and the ability to zap enemies. What role does Midna play, and is she good or bad? Does the headpiece she wears have anything to do with Majora? Is she the Twilight Princess?

Discuss all things Midna here.

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I definately dont think shes the twilight princess. Zelda still has to be involved otherwise it would be the Legend of Midna the Zelda, duh!
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midna can be zelda because remember i oot she was shiek and no one expected it to be here so now probably in the twilight realm her diguise is midnatrue_thug_gamer
now thats a good prediction!
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[QUOTE="originalrage42"][QUOTE="BurningDragoon"][QUOTE="talon4001"]when I read your post I thought that maybe midna was the hawk, but that wouldn't make sense, because Link has the hawk in the village, which is before he meets her. about the sewer, it's possible that Link is the one with the ability to see ghosts, because midna looks very confused, and then scared when the ghosts appear.heavenwaits


probably.



It's still possible that midna is the hawk even though they had already met in the normal world because at that point link had probably not been into the twilight world. Also, when midna first decides to ride "wolf link" their appears to be some familiarity there.

I agree. Maybe Link goes into the Twilight world because Midna as a hawk takes him there, or tricks him into going there.

If you had seen the Cinematic sequence where the little boy gets kidnapped, you wouldve seen Link get sucked into the black vortex (leading to Twilight Realm) by a black hand.

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yeah, that cutscene pretty much rules out Link getting tricked or led into the twilight realm. I think midna's probably some kind of animal in the regular world.
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#40 talon4001
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midna can be zelda because remember i oot she was shiek and no one expected it to be here so now probably in the twilight realm her diguise is midnatrue_thug_gamer

well they have shown zelda in the twilight realm, and haven't shown her out of the twilight realm, so she would have to wear a costume that made her shrink.