New Sig!

ok, I made a new sig, and this time I didn't use any fractals! I used some space stocks, this weird skater picture I found, a beach stock for the main part of the background, and brushes of course :) Tell me what you think

Facing-front renders are hard to make flow and depth work with, I've told you it before.

Overcontrasted and monotoned.

The pentooling/brushes/whatevers, look bad.

The BG looks like spam.

And text is bad

Then do something different!

Your techniques literally sucks with facing front renders, sorry I have to be so harsh but some of you beginner designers start to annoy me, your guys put NO effort into improving, you guys post 100 sigs with the crap every single time, and we can just copy paste our feedback from your lasts sig cuz it's pretty much the same, because you put no effort into looking for new tuts, or checking .psd's or anything, you just expect you're gonna get better eventually by posting the same crap every time. Then you guys get all defensive when somebody doesn't like it, "Oh I did this because of this" "oh that is supposed to look like that"

Seriously just posting in this union won't get you better, use google, LOOK for stuff, and actually put TIME AND EFFORT in sigs.

Colmillios actually changed her technique and she improved, I haven't seen any of her new stuff (if she has even made any) but when she changed it was for the better, because she actually put some times to look around.

It's nothing against you, it's just for everyone that expects they get better eventually by posting the same thing 500 times.

/rant

OMG, exactly what I think. *bows*

You see, me and Duder, we didn't start right off making amazing tags, but we did care about improving. Me, Duder and Pain started making sigs at the same time, but the only difference is that me and Duder, we are much better now (no offense Pain), we can make good sigs without using any C4D or Fractals (I don't even use Fractals), without any kind of resources. We can grab a stock and use the Photoshop tools to make a tag, because we improved, we spent time playing with Photoshop testing things, etc... We didn't stick to the same style. We saw tutorials, we downloaded .psd's, we went to GFX Communities to learn with the Pro's.

 Or maybe me and Duder just care about designing a little bit more.

Just sayin'. 

Then do something different!

Your techniques literally sucks with facing front renders, sorry I have to be so harsh but some of you beginner designers start to annoy me, your guys put NO effort into improving, you guys post 100 sigs with the crap every single time, and we can just copy paste our feedback from your lasts sig cuz it's pretty much the same, because you put no effort into looking for new tuts, or checking .psd's or anything, you just expect you're gonna get better eventually by posting the same crap every time. Then you guys get all defensive when somebody doesn't like it, "Oh I did this because of this" "oh that is supposed to look like that"

Seriously just posting in this union won't get you better, use google, LOOK for stuff, and actually put TIME AND EFFORT in sigs.

Colmillios actually changed her technique and she improved, I haven't seen any of her new stuff (if she has even made any) but when she changed it was for the better, because she actually put some times to look around.

It's nothing against you, it's just for everyone that expects they get better eventually by posting the same thing 500 times.

/rant

Dudersaper

I have no words. I am totally agreed with all this. (btw, just a liiiiiiittle more kindness won't hurt, but you're right).

For God's sake, I don't say I am better than you or I am even good, but when I started, all of you guys knew how to make a proper basic sig. But you have been stlil since then and despite all your efforts there is no improvement. I hate to say this and I especially to promote myself but at least I have a variety in my works. For God's sake I am not the one who will judge you or tell you what to do. Just put some effort in this and most important enjoy what you are doing.

I am not trying to hate, but I've seen a couple of your Sig's now, and seriously no matter how much you try make something different, they all literally look the same.Like I suggested read tuts..... and after you done with that..... READ MORE TUTS. Text is a b****.I myself hate using them and usually don't. I think you should stop using text altogether.... at-least for a little while.

We can't tell you how to make your Sig's. All we can do is steer you in the right direction. Don't give up man, pouting over the internet isn't gonna get anybody to pity you, and just trying to figure out PS/Gimp or w/e you use is gonna get you know where fast. Open up the program and follow a tutorial you like and pick up a style you like or feel comfortable with, and guess what? when you get comfortable.... pick up another Tut and learn it. Untill eventually you are so used to it you can branch off and mix the different styles.

Before I answer to your post I'm just gonna say one tihng to everybody.

Everytime something like this happens, everybody keeps their mouths closed until I post, it's wierd, because until I post some huge text complaining nobody else does it, but when I do it you all come in like freaking wolfs saying pretty much the same crap I did. People, start thinking and acting as you want to, don't wait for others to take action. Pain, It was directed to you but I didn't want everybody to turn over on you like that, wasn't really my fault either, but Sorry.

Not to Answer YOUR post.

god, sorry for ATTEMPTING TO TRY AND MAKE SOME DIFFERENT STUFF! I am trying, it's just a little difficult for me, and just saying what's wrong with little "you should do this", but instead all I get is text is bad, move the render, don't use fractals/c4d's, Pain9000000

well I didn't use any stupid fractals or c4d's in this sig, Pain9000000

And don't come complaining "Oh you're just telling me that so tell me how to really use a C4D", LOOK AROUND REASEARCH LEARN ON YOUR OWN CREDIT!

yes the render is in the middle, but that's the way I wanted to be to go the way I wanted it to with the background,Pain9000000

and I have used about 30 different texts before and every single time they aren't good, so simple boring text right next to the stupid render is perfect, ok got it. I'm done, I'm just donePain9000000

This said, if you don't want to improve, then don't bother posting, because in designing you have to innotave to be good, and you've been going the same thing for pretty much a year.

And please people don't jump on PAin saying the same things I did, if you want to ADD anything, do it:) don't repeat anything.

:) Good Night

I would just like to add, not complain or judge, that changing one's fixed design $tyle is a very difficult thing.

I've seen and liked Pain's designs for quite some time now, although the techniques used were usually the same, the results often came out well above par, I mean when I started designing Pain's designs were epic in my eyes.  Now with a bit more experience I have gotten a feel for designing and have to honestly say these designs don't deserve all the critisism they get.  Honestly everyone has their own way of designing, and for better or for worse their technique is their technique.  In contrast though everyone can improve on every sig or design they have made.  Harsh critique is neccesary at times, I agree, but in this case I really feel that when suggesting someone to change their technique they have been fixed on for a long time, they probably need HELP.  So, post some tuts that you think can help or suggest new technique tips.  I'm not aiming this at you Duder, so plz don't think I am, I'm just speaking in gerality of posts.

Now to support my own rant that I will probably regret -.- these are some tuts, that really helped me out.:

This,

This 

and this.

Nah you're right Snow, but at the UDU we did post tuts and whatnots. But nothing came out of that. That's why I went to harsh critisism.

Like CoolSkaGuy, he's taken critisism and he said he's gonna make a sig with no gradients, it's those kind of change we like them make, actually taking our feedback and using it. :)

Have you ever tried the obvious? Try to make a sig that is similar to someone's else here? Like CSG's, mine, Adurna's Daxter's, any sig of this thread?Jas0n94

but it helped me figure some stuff that will definitely come in handy later :D

Haven't we already said all this stuff in one of BWZ's threads? Pain, your style is still the same no matter what things you use for the sig. It's overcontrasted and the render is centered, which makes it look bad. You've been designing a long time and you should know how to recognize your mistakes and fix them...Adurna0

I know what you're refering to Adurna and your probably right. I'm probably just as guilty or more so of this than Pain is.