Episode Disscussion "Progeny"

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#1 shockwave04
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Season 3 episode discussion "Progeny"

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#2 Kurushio
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They dont seem to be nearly as intelligent as the ancients we have known of especially if they dont know where atlantis is they must be squaters.  I would be surprised if they were closer to the Genii than they are to the ancients that just happen to have been there long enough to learn most of the fuctions.  Still thier city is very impressive though still far behind that of of the asgard and Nox.
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#3 Kurushio
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Holy crap!  Replicators i did not see at all lol.
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#4 ORich
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I don't think anybody here could have seen that coming. Replicatiors with the knowlagde of the Acients that now know everything thing that the team knew is not good for anybody.
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#5 ORich
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So they are not replicators but like them in their design, created and almost destroyed by the ancients. Even more interesting than replicators.
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#6 capthunt
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So they are not replicators but like them in their design, created and almost destroyed by the ancients. Even more interesting than replicators. ORich


I agree. I really felt bad for Liam. He like many others just wanted to reach ascention, but that ending gave me a really bad feeling. Its really sad that we had to take advantage of honest and reasonable human-form replicators again. They will for sure will be back VERY soon being that they are replicators.
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#7 litlike
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I don't think anybody here could have seen that coming. Replicatiors with the knowlagde of the Acients that now know everything thing that the team knew is not good for anybody.ORich


If you go back to my topic "Sga the future" i was close:wink: i said "maybe a replicator wraith bug hybrid",butt ya it was supriseing,that said,it was a good episode i was hopeing that the replicator floating in space would survive alone and then help defeat the wraith,but hey.
maybe the wraith will discover them and try to "SUCK THERE BLOOD":D,and get infected with nanites.
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#8 Arcanine_88
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WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's all I could say when I saw the hand in the head. This is friggen strange on so many levels. For Christ's sake, why is everything bad in Stargate tied to Ancients? Replicatiors, Ori, Wraith. And then you got all that friggen strange stuff they did. Well I do got to say one thing, SGA just got a new twist in the show...
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#9 shockwave04
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I wasn't surprised, a friend of mine friggin' told me. I will like to see how this affects the Wraith tho.
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#10 ORich
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[QUOTE="ORich"]So they are not replicators but like them in their design, created and almost destroyed by the ancients. Even more interesting than replicators. capthunt


I agree. I really felt bad for Liam. He like many others just wanted to reach ascention, but that ending gave me a really bad feeling. Its really sad that we had to take advantage of honest and reasonable human-form replicators again. They will for sure will be back VERY soon being that they are replicators.

Well we really didn't take advantadge of him. He choose to help but his reprogramming was reset by the others on his home world.
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#11 shockwave04
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Sucks to be him, now he is just floting in space
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#12 Kurushio
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Sucks to be him, now he is just floting in spaceshockwave04

I wouldnt be surprised if he was in a decaying orbit around the planet and eventually falls to earth and gets to atlantis.  Still a pretty cool episode with that huge twist in it.  They seemed to only be slightly "nicer" than the replicator blocks we know of.  I wonder who would win in a fight now.  The replicator blocks that the asgard help make or the replicator nanites that the ancients made.  I would probably say that the blocks would win especially if we are including replicator carter in it.

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Good episode.  Goooood episode!  One of the best ones this year, and a very good follow-up to the pulse-pounding Sateda.  So, without further ado:

The Good:  It was nice to see Weir get out of Atlantis on a mission for a change.  Plot was...interesting, if a bit weak.  It's nice to finally see the "missing link" between Reese and the other Replicators.  I think Daniel had postulated the Ancients were responsible for the Replicators before, but I could be wrong.  For those who think the Ancients have too much influence in Stargate plot, remember this:  They were a race of beings dangerously close to being wiped out by the Wraith, and were using any means necessary to defeat them, even methods that ultimately proved more dangerous to themselves.  Now, as ascended beings, they have no need whatsoever to answer for their mistakes, leaving us to fight.  I think that's great, and it really takes away the beatific, harmless image we once had of the Ancients that came about with the SG-1 episode Meridian.  Now, they're actually seen as somewhat ruthless, and certainly capable of making mistakes, including their failure to eliminate their version of the Replicators.  I thought David Ogden Stiers as Oberoth was fantastic, and I hope Oberoth rises again.  I couldn't help but think at the end "oh, just let Liam ascend, please!"  I can't believe we took advantage of yet another human-form replicator, and it was a shame he was left floating in space. 

The Bad:  Not much bad about this episode except I'm about sick of McKay and Sheppard's little tete-a-te's.  The constant bickering back-and-forth makes me want to shoot them both, and there are times when I wish Ronan would do it, just once, just with his weapon on stun.  I'm begging for this.  I'm sure it's not too much to ask.  It's about to drive me completely insane.  Everyone complains about Mitchell being "just like Jack," but really, it's Sheppard who is a Jack-clone.  I'm serious, if they don't at least TRY to tone down the chirping between the two I'll go nuts.

Overall, I'll give this one a 8/10.  Heck, I had no clue they were Replicators until I saw Oberoth's hand in Mitchell's forehead.  Then I went "Holy crap, they're replicators!!"  Really, really good twist to the episode that made it just about perfect.

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#14 ThePunisher09
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I thought it was a good episode. Nice to take a break from the Wraith (who can get rather stale really fast) and have a new, darker, foreboding enemy on the show.
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#15 capthunt
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[QUOTE="capthunt"][QUOTE="ORich"]So they are not replicators but like them in their design, created and almost destroyed by the ancients. Even more interesting than replicators. ORich


I agree. I really felt bad for Liam. He like many others just wanted to reach ascention, but that ending gave me a really bad feeling. Its really sad that we had to take advantage of honest and reasonable human-form replicators again. They will for sure will be back VERY soon being that they are replicators.

Well we really didn't take advantadge of him. He choose to help but his reprogramming was reset by the others on his home world.


Yeh i know that, but still
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#16 expertgamer3
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good episode, overall. You know that the Replicators are going to come back later on in the season.
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And now they're Pissed pff.
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#18 yaba
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They aren't real replicators. Real replicators would have crushed the Wraith long ago just to increase their numbers. Also there are none of the little metal bugs around to shoot. They have emotions, but not the drive to replicate like the ones from SG1. It does make some sense. If Reece was so advanced then she must have been built by antents and might share some of the same technology as the human replicators so when the shinny bugs found her again they could make the same human form as the Atlantis did simply from observing the technology.
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#19 Kurushio
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Well the ancients probably did a better job at programming them since they didnt go nuts and kill all the ancients (it was hard wired that that was one thing they couldnt do) though the blocky replicators had no such base.  Also im not sure how many years advanced when they had that time dialiation device from the asgard and just covered the planet with blocks.
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The return of replicators was a huge shock for me, but then again I predicted to my friend that they would come back, although I expected them to come back in SG-1 not Atlantis.  They even said at the end of season 8 of SG-1 that there could still be Replicators out there.
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#21 Arcanine_88
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There is a difference in the SG-1 blocky Replicators and the ones on Atlantis. But there has to be a connection. Maybe some somehow got out or maybe some loony Ancient made Reece and she made all the block Replicators (I do think the block ones came from her). But there just has to be a connection (even on the smallest level). The Human form Replicators look like a lesser advanced ver of the Atlantis Replicators. But the hand in the head thing, being able to heal themself from gun shots, and even right down to that dark room and a light (watch the episode with Replicator Carter going to the Alpha Site on the episode "Gemini". You'll see the dark room with the one light like you did with Weir when Niam had his hand in her head). They have to be one in the same (even if they are difference races they have to come from the same place all the way up the line).
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#22 KnightsofRound
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Ok, well remember in the season 4 episode finally when SG-1 is running away from Apophis when they jump into hyperspace just after the sun explodes?  Apophis jumps into hyperspace after them and then remember Jacob Carter says that they wound up in an uncharted section of the galaxy.  And then he said it would take them something like 100 years to get back to their own galaxy at normal hyperspace speed.  In that section of the galaxy there was a Replicator ship that attacked Apophis' ship.  So if there was no Stargate system in that area of the universe (which I'm assuming there isn't because it was uncharted) then the replicators are most likely still out there (maybe even the block replicators)
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#23 expertgamer3
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The return of replicators was a huge shock for me, but then again I predicted to my friend that they would come back, although I expected them to come back in SG-1 not Atlantis.  They even said at the end of season 8 of SG-1 that there could still be Replicators out there.
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well i thought originally when Atlantis was supposed to replace SG-1, the replicators were going to be the main enemy. not the Wraith
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#24 shockwave04
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Brad Wright said that he wanted this new enemy to be the main Bad guys.
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#25 mjk1
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episode airs tonight 9pm sky one (UK)
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#26 deshields538
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It was an ok episode I guess. But it turned out they were different replicators than the other ones. I wanted to see bugs again! I don't think that it was very good. Could have been more exciting. Sg-1 episode was way better.
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#27 Kneller1
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[QUOTE="KnightsofRound"]Ok, well remember in the season 4 episode finally when SG-1 is running away from Apophis when they jump into hyperspace just after the sun explodes?  Apophis jumps into hyperspace after them and then remember Jacob Carter says that they wound up in an uncharted section of the galaxy.  And then he said it would take them something like 100 years to get back to their own galaxy at normal hyperspace speed.  In that section of the galaxy there was a Replicator ship that attacked Apophis' ship.  So if there was no Stargate system in that area of the universe (which I'm assuming there isn't because it was uncharted) then the replicators are most likely still out there (maybe even the block replicators)

Yourforgetting that the asgard told ALL replicators to come to them, and then they travled together along with the human replicators. There is no deffenate connection between the nano replicators and the blockky ones.