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#1 Last-Resort
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First of all, the christian religion is not a real religiong like confusius or whatever the actual name for his worshipping is. It's random people in a group just randomly beliving one normal individual shoule be treaed like a godbased on deeds

Even Islam, has it so that it's a different way of worshipping god, but stillbuilt to be stand alone changing how things work, and what not to do. etc.

Christianitys sole existence is Jesus. Who was a Jew in the first place. Think about the following for a second:

Most of the time, churches focus more on worshipping Jesus than god. It makes no direct sense in that regard. The ones that don;t hold him almost as high as a god, even though many even say he;s just a prophet.

Christian worship Jesus like some people worship confusions. Not as a prophet, but as god himself. Not to mention the contradictory statement of we are all gods children yet the preachers will say Jesus is the son of god.

Christianity is a group/cult or etc. of people that actually are not a real religion despite world opinion. You are not worshipping a beyind the beyond, you are not trying to reach a certain port where answers come to you, you don't have gods that control different things, you are worshipping one random guy and decided to base a whole belief based on him.

Inexcusable. It's justlike me saving 7 peoples lives, or walk on shallow water even though I am mostly a normal guy, and thse 7 people worship me because like 2 things I gave them advice on work, so now those 7 are 7,000, and than 600,000 and so on.

That's what Christianity is, false beliefs. Not trying to insult anybody but tha's exactly what it is.

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Stfu, gtfo, and sage.  .
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#3 Necrifer
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Your argument is irrelevant.

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#4 worlock77
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You seem to be confused TC.

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#5 inartistic
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Well it is somewhat understandable goyim would rally behind something to worship. It is rather Ironic that Christianity can be antisemitic when Christians worship a Jewish man and both Christianity and Islam basically stole the Old Testament from Judaism which says the Jewish people are the chosen people. So you are being antisemitic against people who your God chose...
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lol
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#7 Jackc8
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Congrat's, that's one of the most poorly constructed arguments I've heard here - which is QUITE an accomplishment.

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Holy no true Scotsman batman.
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#9 inartistic
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Congrat's, that's one of the most poorly constructed arguments I've heard here - which is QUITE an accomplishment.

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Well not everyone can write like a Harvard professor, the ideas were great though imo (the keystone of the argument)... Jesus was in fact Jewish.
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#10 kuraimen
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Pantheism, that's where it's at. Jesus was a skilful magician.
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some people worship confusions. Last-Resort
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Not to mention the contradictory statement of we are all gods children yet the preachers will say Jesus is the son of god.Last-Resort
that is not a contradictory statement

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#13 ZumaJones07
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i agree. protestants protested the catholics catholicing so they made up their own based on it. that's not a true religion.
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#14 Last-Resort
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[QUOTE="inartistic"]Well it is somewhat understandable goyim would rally behind something to worship. It is rather Ironic that Christianity can be antisemitic when Christians worship a Jewish man and both Christianity and Islam basically stole the Old Testament from Judaism which says the Jewish people are the chosen people. So you are being antisemitic against people who your God chose...

Your last sentence makes no sense.
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#15 inartistic
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="inartistic"]Well it is somewhat understandable goyim would rally behind something to worship. It is rather Ironic that Christianity can be antisemitic when Christians worship a Jewish man and both Christianity and Islam basically stole the Old Testament from Judaism which says the Jewish people are the chosen people. So you are being antisemitic against people who your God chose...

Your last sentence makes no sense.

Christianity still teaches that the Jewish people are the chosen people so being antisemitic is a contradiction of your faith.
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[QUOTE="inartistic"][QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="inartistic"]Well it is somewhat understandable goyim would rally behind something to worship. It is rather Ironic that Christianity can be antisemitic when Christians worship a Jewish man and both Christianity and Islam basically stole the Old Testament from Judaism which says the Jewish people are the chosen people. So you are being antisemitic against people who your God chose...

Christianity isn;t my faith. I never said that. Your last sentence makes no sense.

Christianity still teaches that the Jewish people are the chosen people so being antisemitic is a contradiction of your faith.

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#17 Fundai
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>accuses Christians of worshiping jesus above god. >can't figure out that we actually think Jesus IS God. Honestly I've seen bad anti Christian arguments here before but this was the worst.
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#18 alexside1
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Jee did you click so fast that you didn't type anything?
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#19 Last-Resort
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^Wow GS putting my posts in quotes. Also, adding to the fact it's not, if the Jewish are gods chosen people than how does that disprove my fact Christianity is not a real belief system?
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#20 Last-Resort
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>accuses Christians of worshiping jesus above god. >can't figure out that we actually think Jesus IS God.Fundai
I clearly said exactly what you just stated. Good job reading.

Seriosuly, I have never met someone so incapable mentally for reading.

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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"]^Wow GS putting my posts in quotes. Also, adding to the fact it's not, if the Jewish are gods chosen people than how does that disprove my fact Christianity is not a real belief system?

Or maybe you didn't scroll all the way down on quick reply.
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#22 inartistic
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[QUOTE="Fundai"]>accuses Christians of worshiping jesus above god. >can't figure out that we actually think Jesus IS God.

Wait so you think Jesus is God, that means you believe God is Jewish... So Christianity worships Judaism further pointing out the ridiculousness of antisemitism by Christians like the Nazis.
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"]^Wow GS putting my posts in quotes. Also, adding to the fact it's not, if the Jewish are gods chosen people than how does that disprove my fact Christianity is not a real belief system?

I am arguing it is a belief system albeit somewhat flawed.
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#24 Last-Resort
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[QUOTE="inartistic"][QUOTE="Fundai"]>accuses Christians of worshiping jesus above god. >can't figure out that we actually think Jesus IS God.

Wait so you think Jesus is God, that means you believe God is Jewish... So Christianity worships Judaism further pointing out the ridiculousness of antisemitism by Christians like the Nazis.

Also as mentioned before, I said the eat same thing Fundai said. At least try to read the whole thing. All you are doing is stating what I wrote is correct. You are full of confused individuals that have books writtenworshipping god, eyt worseship jesus, and you worship jewish men and adding that you have books saying jewish are the chosen people. If anything I would say this is on the verge of confusious.
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[QUOTE="Fundai"]>accuses Christians of worshiping jesus above god. >can't figure out that we actually think Jesus IS God.Last-Resort

I clearly said exactly what you just stated. Good job reading.

Seriosuly, I have never met someone so incapable mentally for reading.

You're wrong that we just worship Jesus though. We worship one god who is a trinity of three persons. I don't see how you cannot call that a religion.
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[QUOTE="inartistic"][QUOTE="Fundai"]>accuses Christians of worshiping jesus above god. >can't figure out that we actually think Jesus IS God.

Wait so you think Jesus is God, that means you believe God is Jewish... So Christianity worships Judaism further pointing out the ridiculousness of antisemitism by Christians like the Nazis.

I think its rediculous to do anything like that to anyone. And the Nazi's didn't commit what they did because they were christian... Indeed, much of the German leadership were atheists or agnostics. They commited what they did as nationalistic, anti semetic racial purist eugenicists. Not christians. There were many christians put in internmaent camps to.
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"]

[QUOTE="Fundai"]>accuses Christians of worshiping jesus above god. >can't figure out that we actually think Jesus IS God.Fundai

I clearly said exactly what you just stated. Good job reading.

Seriosuly, I have never met someone so incapable mentally for reading.

You're wrong that we just worship Jesus though. We worship one god who is a trinity of three persons. I don't see how you cannot call that a religion.

A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.
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#28 Fundai
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[QUOTE="Fundai"][QUOTE="Last-Resort"] I clearly said exactly what you just stated. Good job reading.

Seriosuly, I have never met someone so incapable mentally for reading.

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You're wrong that we just worship Jesus though. We worship one god who is a trinity of three persons. I don't see how you cannot call that a religion.

A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.

God is hardly mentioned? If you actually think that you've never ever payed attention to christianity in your life, have you? The bible is full of Jesus mentioning his father. We pray the our father at every mass, and most say it daily. We believe god is forgiving, and the only way to him is through his word.We offer our hearts and minds to god at mass, and give thanks and praise to him. How is god barely mentioned? Have you EVER gone to mass?

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#29 Bane_09
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I don't believe Confucianism involves worshipping Confucius as a god

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On a related note, BLT's are not real sandwiches and are irrelevant. I know they are defined as sandwiches, but they aren't because I say so.

A sneak preview of TC's next genius topic.

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[QUOTE="Fundai"][QUOTE="Last-Resort"] I clearly said exactly what you just stated. Good job reading.

Seriosuly, I have never met someone so incapable mentally for reading.

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You're wrong that we just worship Jesus though. We worship one god who is a trinity of three persons. I don't see how you cannot call that a religion.

A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.

How many Christian church services have you been to that have led to you coming up with that statistic?

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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="Fundai"] You're wrong that we just worship Jesus though. We worship one god who is a trinity of three persons. I don't see how you cannot call that a religion.Lebbin

A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.

How many Christian church services have you been to that have led to you coming up with that statistic?

Thats what I'm wondering. TC is acting like he's never spent time around at a christian service ever.
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"] It;s like Confucious.

I'm just going to point out that you've spelled "Confucius" in like four different ways, and none of them have been right.
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#34 outworld222
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alright, why are you always trying to discredit chritianity? That seems to be the whole point of your thread. I don't get it.

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#35 cyborg100000
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Ground breaking stuff right here on Gamespot off topic. Take your religous thread and shove it up your ass.

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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="Fundai"] You're wrong that we just worship Jesus though. We worship one god who is a trinity of three persons. I don't see how you cannot call that a religion.Fundai

A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.

God is hardly mentioned? If you actually think that you've never ever payed attention to christianity in your life, have you? The bible is full of Jesus mentioning his father. We pray the our father at every mass, and most say it daily. We believe god is forgiving, and the only way to him is through his word.We offer our hearts and minds to god at mass, and give thanks and praise to him. How is god barely mentioned? Have you EVER gone to mass?

You know I am right that's why you changed points. Preachers don't follow the Bible in that regard, and I never said the Bible didn;t say it. It's not spoken about, that's what most people in christianity do. Most don't actually read the Bible. Preaching wise, there basically is no god other than Jesus.
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="Fundai"] You're wrong that we just worship Jesus though. We worship one god who is a trinity of three persons. I don't see how you cannot call that a religion.Lebbin

A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.

How many Christian church services have you been to that have led to you coming up with that statistic?

A damn lot.
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#38 Last-Resort
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alright, why are you always trying to discredit chritianity? That seems to be the whole point of your thread. I don't get it.

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Always? This is one thread.
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Of all the Abrahamic religions, I'd have to agree that Catholicism (im not sure about Orthodox and Protestantism) is craziest. It's essentially Judaism mixed with Roman Paganism

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I'm used to having Christianity being called lies, stupid, a fairy tale, etc... But this is the first time I've heard someone accuse it of not being a religion. By the standard definition of religion (a collection of cultural systems, belief systems, and worldviews that establishes symbols that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values), atheism is a religion (a collection of scientifically based ideas that establish humanities difference from spirituaitly).

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#41 mindstorm
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You complain that Christians worship Jesus as God. Well you know what, that is kind of the point.
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#42 Fundai
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You complain that Christians worship Jesus as God. Well you know what, that is kind of the point.mindstorm
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#43 vfibsux
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Hey OP, Christians don't need you to approve of them. You don't tell me what is relevant and what is not in MY life. How arrogant.

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#44 vfibsux
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I'm used to having Christianity being called lies, stupid, a fairy tale, etc... But this is the first time I've heard someone accuse it of not being a religion. By the standard definition of religion (a collection of cultural systems, belief systems, and worldviews that establishes symbols that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values), atheism is a religion (a collection of scientifically based ideas that establish humanities difference from spirituaitly).

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The OP had no credibility to begin with, this thread should just be trashed now as IRRELEVANT and NOT a thread at all.
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dude how old are you and what level of education did you receive? all these threads you have made have the worse grammar ive fcking seen.

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Yea they need to lock half of these meaningless pieces of crap.

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[QUOTE="inartistic"] So you are being antisemitic against people who your God chose...

if anything the biggest antisemite is God
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[QUOTE="Fundai"]

[QUOTE="Last-Resort"] A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.Last-Resort

God is hardly mentioned? If you actually think that you've never ever payed attention to christianity in your life, have you? The bible is full of Jesus mentioning his father. We pray the our father at every mass, and most say it daily. We believe god is forgiving, and the only way to him is through his word.We offer our hearts and minds to god at mass, and give thanks and praise to him. How is god barely mentioned? Have you EVER gone to mass?

You know I am right that's why you changed points. Preachers don't follow the Bible in that regard, and I never said the Bible didn;t say it. It's not spoken about, that's what most people in christianity do. Most don't actually read the Bible. Preaching wise, there basically is no god other than Jesus.

Right about what? I was showing you a few examples of how we also worship god.
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First of all, the christian religion is not a real religiong like confusius or whatever the actual name for his worshipping is. It's random people in a group just randomly beliving one normal individual shoule be treaed like a godbased on deeds

Even Islam, has it so that it's a different way of worshipping god, but stillbuilt to be stand alone changing how things work, and what not to do. etc.

Christianitys sole existence is Jesus. Who was a Jew in the first place. Think about the following for a second:

Most of the time, churches focus more on worshipping Jesus than god. It makes no direct sense in that regard. The ones that don;t hold him almost as high as a god, even though many even say he;s just a prophet.

Christian worship Jesus like some people worship confusions. Not as a prophet, but as god himself. Not to mention the contradictory statement of we are all gods children yet the preachers will say Jesus is the son of god.

Christianity is a group/cult or etc. of people that actually are not a real religion despite world opinion. You are not worshipping a beyind the beyond, you are not trying to reach a certain port where answers come to you, you don't have gods that control different things, you are worshipping one random guy and decided to base a whole belief based on him.

Inexcusable. It's justlike me saving 7 peoples lives, or walk on shallow water even though I am mostly a normal guy, and thse 7 people worship me because like 2 things I gave them advice on work, so now those 7 are 7,000, and than 600,000 and so on.

That's what Christianity is, false beliefs. Not trying to insult anybody but tha's exactly what it is.

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christianity and islam both focus on worshipping god or alah...the divergeance is that christians believe that jesus is a part of god and islams believe that muhammad is a prophet and the progenetor of their religion and its text, you would surprised about how close the two religions actually are

every church that ive heard of or know of that claim to be christian also proclaim that jesus is a part of god. and while it is true that jesus and god have a supposed son/father relationship, they are supposedly the same being

christianity believes in a creator(god)...he is this supposed "beyond the beyond" that you're talking about and he is said to give you answers to your problems and to control the entirety of the universe. they worship god...who consists of god(creator), jesus(the son who is the messiah and was on earth) and the holy spirit(that thing that "talks" to you)

christianty is an evolution of the jewish faith, heck...over half of the bible is the jewish scripture...go figure. so to say that they dont believe in god is a bit far fetched. the divergeance here is that they believe that the only way to get to paradise is to believe that jesus came to earth and saved them...ergo...messiah...and to ask for forgiveness for the sins that they have commited. that being said...there are portions of issiah(an old testament book that the jews believe) reference and point to the coming of a messiah who is the "son of god" and that he would be jewish...again...divergeance is that the jews believe christ was a prophet and christians believe that christ was "the son of god" and the messiah.

that being said...im not a believer in god/jesus whatever...i was however raised christian and know a good bit about the religion and its teachings...most of what u said is utter bullocks and completely nonsensical...if u are gonna try to disprove something...at least read the damned text first so you know what youre talking about

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#50 lpjazzman220
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"] A religion that belief is based on Jesus ONLY. Thus Chrisitians are essentially jewish people that decided to think they have enough to be their own belief system. Also, you are suppose to worship god, but almost 99% of the time preachers say to worship Jesus, and in almost just as many cases, god is barely mentioned. It;s like Confucious.Last-Resort

God is hardly mentioned? If you actually think that you've never ever payed attention to christianity in your life, have you? The bible is full of Jesus mentioning his father. We pray the our father at every mass, and most say it daily. We believe god is forgiving, and the only way to him is through his word.We offer our hearts and minds to god at mass, and give thanks and praise to him. How is god barely mentioned? Have you EVER gone to mass?

You know I am right that's why you changed points. Preachers don't follow the Bible in that regard, and I never said the Bible didn;t say it. It's not spoken about, that's what most people in christianity do. Most don't actually read the Bible. Preaching wise, there basically is no god other than Jesus.

he didnt change points...he was explaining that they believe jesus is god and to worship jesus is to worship the jewish god and that god is mentioned throughout the whole mass. they pray to god(the jewish one) and services revolve around his teachings and commandments...and most preachers that i know actually DO read the bible...and preaching wise...they teach that god is jesus and jesus is god and they speak more of the jewish god than they do jesus if anything cause his actions are present thru more of the bible than jesus(i think maybe 5 or so books acutally tell the story of jesus and the rest are letters to churches and how to act as christians and then the fortelling of the end times(new testament at least) the old testament is ALL about god...and its easily more than 50% of the bible...