What do you think: Grasshoper(TM2) vs. Pit viper(TM1)?

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#1 deimonds2
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Who wins?

I think wins grasshoper-she is one of my fav's butin TM2 with her special attack you offenly can do damadge to yourself...........So you need to use her right.......Pit vipers special is not bad, but it does not big damadge....

What do you guys think?

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#2 jakek
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you mean who wins if they fought each other? i dunno, its pretty much a draw since they are so similar, but id go with grasshopper for the win in a fight. if you mean who do i like better? i dont particularly like either that much, but again, id go with grasshopper. i liked pit viper's special, but it just wasnt very strong for how weak her armor was. she wasnt much stronger than mr grimm and at least his special is very powerful to make up for it
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#3 ewewewewewew
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well i think grasshopper wins the fight.
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#4 deimonds2
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Pit viper actualy has a cool special, but it doesn't even folow enemy......so for me it's hard to use it....
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#5 jakek
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actually now that i think about it, most people's specials went straight and didnt follow anyone. Sweet Tooth, Mr Grimm, Yellow Jacket, Pit Viper, Darkside, Crimson Fury ( i think), Warthog (i think also)
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#6 MuddyMaestro
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I've never thought about Grasshopper and Pit Viper facing off. If I had to choose who would win a fight, I'd say Grasshopper, because as far as I know Pit Viper's special is the same as Grasshopper's, except it doesn't home in on the opponent (please correct me if I'm wrong). In popularity, I also like Grasshopper better, since she was such an interesting character in both of the game she appeared in in my opinion. Plus, in TM:HO it was revealed...

[spoiler] Calypso may have lead a normal life before Twisted Metal, which could create a whole new backstory for Calypso too. [/spoiler]

I really hope to see her in the upcoming Twisted Metal, since she was so intreiging.

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#7 deimonds2
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Whell i am agreed with you MudkipMaster30, but in TM HO ending she was sent to hospital and ''sleeping'' there for many years.

And i have thinking about this, she could be even next ruler of twisted metal(like sweth tooth in TM4)

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#8 DMethot
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I'd go with Grasshopper because of the advantage in the special. Though Pit Viper is a cooler name.
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#9 MuddyMaestro
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Whell i am agreed with you MudkipMaster30, but in TM HO ending she was sent to hospital and ''sleeping'' there for many years.

And i have thinking about this, she could be even next ruler of twisted metal(like sweth tooth in TM4)

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*Watches ending movie for Grasshopper* Woah, I remembered it different, I guess.

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#10 deimonds2
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Whell i don't have TM HO, but i know, than in her ending she wished, that the car acsident that killed her mom and her have never hapend-so calypso send her to coma for 12 years-something like that.....And she is seeing a dream where she is little-she is alive and everyone is happy...
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#11 jakek
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yeah i didnt really understand that ending. why was she in a coma? did the wreck still happen and she didn't die? or was she sick and put in a coma somehow anyways?
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#12 gmans33
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I'd go with Pit Viper, just because I liked the acid special Pit Viper had vs Grasshopper's slam special. I never could perform that special without losing life, so I just avoided using it. Would be a close battle though..
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#13 deimonds2
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Actualy Pit viper's special is kind a powerful. I played Twisted metal 1 today, and realized how good is her special-but it's not folowing enemy-that's the problem..........so if you use it wrong than you can miss MANY times......But still I like Grasshoper better than Pit Viper.....

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#14 jakek
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i couldnt remember if hers was powerful or not. i was guessing it was since her armor is pretty weak, but i remembered not using her often
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#15 deimonds2
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I think her is kinda powerful and playing TM1 very much i learnd how to use it......

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#16 MuddyMaestro
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Grasshopper was an alright character to play through in deathmatch mode, but in the tournament she is a pain, since her special doesn't compensate for her weak armor, in my opinion. One thing you don't with a character that has weak armor is get close range, you want to use maneuverability to move around and spray missiles without getting hit yourself. When you're close you're much more susceptible to being frozen, and if you're frozen even once with Grasshopper on any difficulty above Easy, you're dead. Also, I am often astounded by how many times I'm hit with missiles when I initiate Grasshopper's special, and how the AI seems to respond to your special to end her special prematurely. And of course, she's one of the worst characters against Dark Tooth since Leap 'n Slam does nothing essentially.
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#17 deimonds2
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Against dark tooth Grasshoper's special is just nothing.........In final battle all the follwing roket's,missles and other normal weapons are wery good to use(definatly with grasshoper)....

as i've played TM2 with grasshoper in dark tooth battle using her special one time i am almoust dead............

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#18 MuddyMaestro
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A lot (actually, I think the majority) of characters have Specials that are basically;y usless against Dark Tooth, whether they do no damage because he's so large, or require you to get close-range, which is about the last thing you want to do with him. I've never tried it before, but Spectre would probably have the best Special of all for that battle since you can shoot his missile through buildings and still hit him, and not have to leave yourself vulnerable to him. However, if you let him cut you off, you're dead with his low armor.

Back on topic, I would take Grasshopper over Pit Viper in a Normal-difficulty battle, but if on Hard,I may choose Pit Viper since the chances you will land Grasshopper's special without getting hit partway through are low on Hard difficulty. But really, I wouldn't want to use either on Hard difficulty. :P
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#19 deimonds2
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About dark tooth-thumper's special is wery good against him.........
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#20 icecoldmarty
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Grasshopper was a good replacement for Pit Viper.

I didn't like Pit Viper very much especially she was an hired gun.

Grasshopper was a better character because she was Calyspo's daughter and her special works better.

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#21 MuddyMaestro
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I must agree that Grasshopper story-wise was a much better character than Pit Viper. Krista Sparks' stories were some of the deepest in exploring Twisted Metal, and brought up a lot about the history of Calypso.

In some E3 gameplay Grasshopper was shown as a playable character, though I don't believe it has been confirmed she'll be in the game. 

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#22 icecoldmarty
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She would make the game more interesting but it would suck for me if that was Pit Viper.
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#23 darthcobain17
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Grasshopper is actually one of my favourite characters! I quite enjoy using her.