Best submission finisher

The Crippler Crossface hurts the most. Trust me.Biggestgeekever

hahaha! i know from experience too!

i also know the sharpshooer, figure 4, walls of jericho don't hurt that much from experience....but the ankle lock hurts a lot

[QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"]The Crippler Crossface hurts the most. Trust me.sephy37

hahaha! i know from experience too!

i also know the sharpshooer, figure 4, walls of jericho don't hurt that much from experience....but the ankle lock hurts a lot

i'm so glad no one said masterlock yet.sephy37

[QUOTE="sephy37"]i'm so glad no one said masterlock yet.keiblerfan69

that's not true! he got rosey to pass out! :lol:

Sharpshooter and Crippler Crossface have the same level of pain factor IMHO.

Sharpshooter is really painful to the back, those did not seem like fake screams that Shawn was yelling, during his Wrestlemania XII match. While, the Crossface puts a lot of pain on your neck and shoulder. Just imagine, Chris Benoit does both of these moves, he puts his opponents in a lot of pain.

Hornable Mention: Lion Tamber (old-school Walls of Jericho).

Lion Tamber looked like it hurt more than the Walls of Jericho, why Chris Jericho does the WOJ instead? I am not sure about that one.

By the way, does anyone know why he does the WOJ, instead of the Lion Tamber?

My only guess is because the Lion Tamber was too dangerous to do anymore or WWE told him to change the move for some reason.

Sharpshooter and Crippler Crossface have the same level of pain factor IMHO.

Sharpshooter is really painful to the back, those did not seem like fake screams that Shawn was yelling, during his Wrestlemania XII match. While, the Crossface puts a lot of pain on your neck and shoulder. Just imagine, Chris Benoit does both of these moves, he puts his opponents in a lot of pain.

Hornable Mention: Lion Tamber (old-school Walls of Jericho).

Lion Tamber looked like it hurt more than the Walls of Jericho, why Chris Jericho does the WOJ instead? I am not sure about that one.

By the way, does anyone know why he does the WOJ, instead of the Lion Tamber?

My only guess is because the Lion Tamber was too dangerous to do anymore or WWE told him to change the move for some reason.

Link256

a lot of wwf/e wrestlers complained that he was actually hurting them. i remember someone once saying that the big show has the softest moves and hurt the least and yet smaller guys like jericho are putting guys on the d.l.

but if you look back on old matches, i think he punished the rock with a bulldog during their wwf championship match when jericho unified the belts.

so i think after they talked to jericho about toning down, they made him change it. i'll check obssessed with wrestling to see if they say anything about it.

edit: what am i thinking, the liontamer is the same thing as the walls of jericho right? but i thought i remembered the liontamer was more boston crabbish than the walls with just twisting the neck and back. but the walls was called liontamer in WCW. i'm sure they changed it so it would fit his "Y2J/Break the Walls Down" persona.

but the whole thing about wrestlers complaining that he was hurting them (not intentionally of course) is true i think.

[QUOTE="Link256"]

Sharpshooter and Crippler Crossface have the same level of pain factor IMHO.

Sharpshooter is really painful to the back, those did not seem like fake screams that Shawn was yelling, during his Wrestlemania XII match. While, the Crossface puts a lot of pain on your neck and shoulder. Just imagine, Chris Benoit does both of these moves, he puts his opponents in a lot of pain.

Hornable Mention: Lion Tamber (old-school Walls of Jericho).

Lion Tamber looked like it hurt more than the Walls of Jericho, why Chris Jericho does the WOJ instead? I am not sure about that one.

By the way, does anyone know why he does the WOJ, instead of the Lion Tamber?

My only guess is because the Lion Tamber was too dangerous to do anymore or WWE told him to change the move for some reason.

sephy37

a lot of wwf/e wrestlers complained that he was actually hurting them. i remember someone once saying that the big show has the softest moves and hurt the least and yet smaller guys like jericho are putting guys on the d.l.

but if you look back on old matches, i think he punished the rock with a bulldog during their wwf championship match when jericho unified the belts.

so i think after they talked to jericho about toning down, they made him change it. i'll check obssessed with wrestling to see if they say anything about it.

edit: what am i thinking, the liontamer is the same thing as the walls of jericho right? but i thought i remembered the liontamer was more boston crabbish than the walls with just twisting the neck and back. but the walls was called liontamer in WCW. i'm sure they changed it so it would fit his "Y2J/Break the Walls Down" persona.

but the whole thing about wrestlers complaining that he was hurting them (not intentionally of course) is true i think.

Okay, thanks for the input. Yea, that is what I was talking about, is not how he changed the name of the move (that was obvious why they changed the name of the move), but how he changed the move all together.

Yea, I remember during the first Tough Enough when Chris Jericho came by, one of the contants asked him why he did not do the Lion Tamber anymore. So, Chris Jericho put him a old school Lion Tamber and obviously he tapped out right away. Afterwards, I think Y2J said this (or at least something along the same message): "I guess you know why I do not do the Lion Tamber anymore."

The Figure-Four Leg Lock hurts like helledgemeister

Yes it does.

my favorite is the crippler cross faceSkaterfool99

When benoit and jericho did the crossface and the walls on austin (im pretty sure it was austin) at the same time.alucard_05

Yes, it was Austin.

It was when all three of them were feuding and it was what led to their Triple-Treat, WWF Championship match at King of the Ring 2001 match. Which is the match that led to Benoit breaking his neck, it happen after he gave Austin a Superplex of the top rope.

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]my favorite is the crippler cross facetheoryc2

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