Billy Kidman, Hardcore Holly, More News

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Billy Kidman/WWE, Bob Holly's Return, RAW & More

Date Added: July 26, 2006
Story By:
Andy Steven

Credit: PWInsider.com

Chad Wicks, formerly of the Dicks tag team, worked a dark match at the WWE RAW taping this past Monday in Cleveland, Ohio doing a "stripping fireman" gimmick. Nothing has been said to weather he has signed a new WWE deal. Wicks has been to work in Ohio Valley Wrestling after his WWE release.

Bob Holly is coming close to returning to the ring. Holly has successfully battled the severe staph infection in his elbow, he has been having a rough couple of months however has come through them.

As noted on the SmackDown spoilers, Billy Kidman worked a dark match under a mask, losing to Jamie Noble. AT the moment Billy Kidman hasn’t been offered a WWE deal.

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#2 mrgab
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O please return Billy Kidman, he's one of my all time fave cruiserweights

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#3 JML897
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Hooray, they're bringing back another injury-dealing suck guy to take Henry's spot!
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#4 MisterEnigmaOO
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I know a lot of people like Kidman, but I never saw anything in him. Obviously I'd take him over Holly though.
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#5 sephy37
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I know a lot of people like Kidman, but I never saw anything in him. Obviously I'd take him over Holly though. Freaza

did you ever watch his WCW stuff after he got away from Raven's Flock? those were his best days and i think the fans remember his feuds with Rey, Eddie, Juvi, etc. out of everything he's ever done so they still have a soft spot for him.

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#6 oreoshane
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It's unfortunately good that Holly's coming back soon. I'll be happy if Kidman comes back, except his move is banned so it won't be that great. About the whole Chad Wicks thing...no. :|
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It's unfortunately good that Holly's coming back soon. I'll be happy if Kidman comes back, except his move is banned so it won't be that great. About the whole Chad Wicks thing...no. :|oreoshane
Well, Kidman is more than a little responsible for that, if you remember.  Plus, Kidman's SSP was never that great, especially in comparison to say Paul London's, or the undisputed master of  the SSP, Brock Lesnar.  Hell, Teddy Hart's was better, even when he was doing it to absolutely no one.

With that said, I'd really like to see Kidman back.  He may be a shell of the breakout star of the Flock, but his shell is still alot better than a lot of guys, especially if they pushed him as a heavyweight, which towards the end of his run he could easily have been.  He had some really good matches with London and could be a solid mid-card attraction, I believe.  I always thought WWE dropped the ball on Kidman's post-botch heel turn.  There was a period where I think he was the most over heel on Smackdown.  Imagine if he was the guy that "injured" John Cena, instead of the beyond lame "night club puncture wound" story.

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Kidman has all the potential in the world to breakout on Smackdown. As a face or a heel really. His last heel run was good, but WWE really messed up with him, as Dude stated. He could start out as a cruiser and work up to the US title, possibly the high card if used right.
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#9 Dark_NoobSaibot
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HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW! lol..i loved that from Holly
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meh, never really got into Kidman cuz i never watched WCW and holly is a joke
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#11 sephy37
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Plus, Kidman's SSP was never that great, especially in comparison to say Paul London's

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*cough cough* Matt Sydal does it best :P

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#12 manhunt1001
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Iv always liked Kidman...even without watching much of his matches in WCW. I suggest Backlash 2002 against Tajiri and No Mercy 2004 against Paul London as some Kidman matches to watch.
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#13 RaveNevRMoR3
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O please return Billy Kidman, he's one of my all time fave cruiserweights

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And SD needs him...
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#14 protoman028
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I could see kidman coming back to smackdown to be the us champ. I also can see him getting into some good fueds against the king's court. I think he could really help out smackdown since there are many guys out right now. I think holly could probabaly do a paul burchill. He could come back and beat some people for a little while, but in the end, he'll just end up being a jobber.
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According to PWTorch.com, if Kidman, who worked under a Japanese mask, is re-signed, he will likely work on the ECW brand.
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According to PWTorch.com, if Kidman, who worked under a Japanese mask, is re-signed, he will likely work on the ECW brand.hbk91


Even better he got the most he could out of the Crusierweight division so make him work on that brand.
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#17 dRehkJY
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I would quite like to see him come back, good luck to Holly, and please, do not give Chad Dick a gimmick that involves a dick
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#18 protoman028
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I just can't really picture Kidman in a mask. Do they have pictures of him in a mask? I think he would look kind of weird, since i got use to seeing his face.
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#19 Curry_Man
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If Kidman signs, I would rather prefer to see him work in the United States division on Smackdown! since it is progressively building up positively.
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Yeah ECW does not need him, they have enough talent that doesn't get TV time already. Cruiserweight division needs him and Mysterio back.
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#21 hbk91
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Cruiserweight division needs him and Mysterio back.mja2k3

I really don't feel it is right for Mysterio to get demeaned from working as the World Heavyweight Champion to following off his title loss to work in the cruiserweight division. Regardless of his weight class, he's evolved as a wrestler and being pushed down just wouldn't settle well in my eyes.

He could (and probably will) just get the Benoit treatment and follow off his career by working in the US division, or alternatively, in the tag team division instead.

Back on topic, ECW is being fed with a lot of talent and a lot of classes for divisions, and if Kidman does eventually sign with the WWE again and work in ECW, I hope he, along with the others (not used too), get treated efficiently this time round.

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I still think the Cruiserweight Title should be dropped altogether.  Its not showcased anymore, it doesn't even have Velocity.  Drop the belt and incorporate the Cruisers in the tag division and to add depth to the midcard. 
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I still think the Cruiserweight Title should be dropped altogether. Its not showcased anymore, it doesn't even have Velocity. Drop the belt and incorporate the Cruisers in the tag division and to add depth to the midcard. The_Dude14


WWE wont allow the crusierweights into the mid-card or main event status(Mysterio was the only exception i can think of). They will most likely be put into jobber tag teams or jobber single wrestlers if such a scenario came into play.
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#24 Link256
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I still think the Cruiserweight Title should be dropped altogether.  Its not showcased anymore, it doesn't even have Velocity.  Drop the belt and incorporate the Cruisers in the tag division and to add depth to the midcard. The_Dude14

Yeah...fully I agree...

Also...after time period of the cruiserweights being established in other divisions...and mid-card being more established and therefore...gaining some more talent...if and when that ever happens... I say they should bring back European or Television Title... There would not be pressure on the cruiserweights to be unique division...and it would allow for some non-cruisers to win the title...

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#25 RaveNevRMoR3
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The cw division still has life, its dying, but isn't dead yet, they need some people to come back who are good cruiserweights ... or some new talent, because who they have right now aren't getting the job done.


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I still think the Cruiserweight Title should be dropped altogether.  Its not showcased anymore, it doesn't even have Velocity.  Drop the belt and incorporate the Cruisers in the tag division and to add depth to the midcard. The_Dude14
How about transfering the Crusierweights into ECW. Paul Heyman has express that in his interviews that he would like the Cursierweights to be apart of the new ECW. SInce SD! isn't doing much with them now, why not take it to the ECW brand.
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#27 RaveNevRMoR3
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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I still think the Cruiserweight Title should be dropped altogether. Its not showcased anymore, it doesn't even have Velocity. Drop the belt and incorporate the Cruisers in the tag division and to add depth to the midcard. KevyR
How about transfering the Crusierweights into ECW. Paul Heyman has express that in his interviews that he would like the Cursierweights to be apart of the new ECW. SInce SD! isn't doing much with them now, why not take it to the ECW brand.



That would be awsome...
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[QUOTE="KevyR"][QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I still think the Cruiserweight Title should be dropped altogether. Its not showcased anymore, it doesn't even have Velocity. Drop the belt and incorporate the Cruisers in the tag division and to add depth to the midcard. RaveNevRMoR3
How about transfering the Crusierweights into ECW. Paul Heyman has express that in his interviews that he would like the Cursierweights to be apart of the new ECW. SInce SD! isn't doing much with them now, why not take it to the ECW brand.



That would be awsome...

Yeah but there isn't much Paulie can do with a 1 hour slot. Especially since Vinnie Mac likes to keep Kelly on the show for a 10 minute segment every now and then. There's gotta be a Sandman match in every show. What's the show without Sabu? And then of course there's the weekly random WWE wrestler going for the title match. The show has no room for....really anyone at all. And with CM Punk and Angle coming, not to mention RVD when he returns, and who could forget Fertig the Vampire....the show has no room for anyone else.
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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I still think the Cruiserweight Title should be dropped altogether.  Its not showcased anymore, it doesn't even have Velocity.  Drop the belt and incorporate the Cruisers in the tag division and to add depth to the midcard. KevyR
How about transfering the Crusierweights into ECW. Paul Heyman has express that in his interviews that he would like the Cursierweights to be apart of the new ECW. SInce SD! isn't doing much with them now, why not take it to the ECW brand.

I imagine Heyman would do exactly what I suggested.  Afterall, ECW had cruiserweights, but never a cruiserweight title.  He wants the wrestlers, not the belt buckle.
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#30 RaveNevRMoR3
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Once again ... more reason for the 2 hour time slot...
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#31 Rage11
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This is good news for me. I hope Kidman is re-signed and I'm glad Hardcore Holly has fought his infection sucessfully. I'm looking foward to see him return to action.