Cena Vs Khali good idea or not?

Great Khali is attraction - nothing more, nothing less. Attractions, in my mind, believe it or not, can be useful (including Khali), however, they should be kept around the level of jobber, low-card, and lower-mid-card - anything beyond that and limitions will begin to come into full-effect (for the example, in sense of how fast, or slow, the guy moves around in the ring, the fact that he makes Big Show look as if he were Rey Mysterio, in comparison) and needless to say, for those reasons and more, putting him into the title picture, at all, is horrible idea. 

Also, unlike Andre "The Giant," the guy does not have likable personality that people can latch onto.

In addition, you known there is problem when the quality of your "best" match is, in turn, at the very best, "average" (watchable).

From a certain perspective, I think you can spin it to a good idea. Cena's crowd reactions have been increasingly negative since his feud with HBK started. This is especially scary on the recent foreign tours.  These people are supposed to be eating out of the WWE's palm.  The largest criticism of John Cena is, unjustly, his work rate. So you put him in a feud with a guy who is unquestionably a worse wrestler than John Cena, thus forcing the fans to back Cena. Also, the fact that said worker is a overpushed freak show (who holds an extremely rare pinfall victory over the Undertaker) and you've ensured that you've got you cliched against all odds scenario to keep the kiddies into it. It worked with Umaga. However, compared to Khali, Umaga looks like Bret Hart. I'd take freakin' Mark Henry in this position before Khali.

Of course, this completely ignores the possibility of a backlash when these two go out and stink up the joint. However, if this is just a placeholder feud for a few weeks on Raw, the long-term damage should be minimal and it could work. If they expect this to sell Judgement Day (especially with Taker extremely doubtful), I have doubts.

From my personal Triple H Conspiracy Theory perspective, its perfect for him. Cena looks strong overcoming the monster that beat the Undertaker and killed the rest of the main event scene, Cena won't be winning any long term fan support from the stinkers they'll wrestle, no one wants the belt on Khali, so Triple H can swoop in and be the hero to the masses when he collects #11.

From my perspective as a fan, it ****ing sucks.

From a fans perspective, Khali vs anybody is a bad idea.

Khalilord_soultaker

Bad idea.

Also, anyone who says they'd like to see Khali go over Cena(which will not happen) is completely blinded by their Cena hate. That's ridiculous. 

From a certain perspective, I think you can spin it to a good idea. Cena's crowd reactions have been increasingly negative since his feud with HBK started. This is especially scary on the recent foreign tours.  These people are supposed to be eating out of the WWE's palm. 

The_Dude14

Imagined, in all likely hood, that is the case. Otherwise, if they do, infact, have plans of carrying this feud into Judgement Day, it does not really make sense because his feud with Shawn Michaels still had, at the very least, enough gas in the tank for one more match.

The largest criticism of John Cena is, unjustly, his work rate.

The_Dude14

I could not agree more. While John Cena may not (okay, he most certainly is not) be in the vain of Chris Benoit, Bret Hart or Ric Flair (in his prime) in regards to "technical" workrate (though, with that being said, on side note, the one area that the guy shares similar, to point, with Bret Hart and Ric Flair is the whole dynamic of "chain" wrestling), the guy is, in similar fashion to The Rock or The Undertaker (in his prime), effective. Plus, as of late, Cena has been a) showning signs of improvement and b) constantly delievering quality matches.

The main problem Cena has is, from what I have seen, his ability, or non-ability, to sell moves (i.e. he has problem with being over-dramatic). Though, with that being said, I do not see that as being "big" problem seeing how, as awesome as he was and still is, at times, Shawn Michaels, I feel, does the same thing.

So you put him in a feud with a guy who is unquestionably a worse wrestler than John Cena, thus forcing the fans to back Cena. Also, the fact that said worker is a overpushed freak show (who holds an extremely rare pinfall victory over the Undertaker) and you've ensured that you've got you cliched against all odds scenario to keep the kiddies into it. It worked with Umaga. However, compared to Khali, Umaga looks like Bret Hart. I'd take freakin' Mark Henry in this position before Khali.

The_Dude14

Not only that, however, he is the only guy, that I know of, to give The Undertaker the "Chris Jericho" pin.

In regards to Umaga, I think the problem he had before is that a) his matches were 2 or 3 minutes in length and b) constantly paired with the likes of jobbers. With the "correct" opponent and amount of time, I think Umaga could be effective in the ring, to certain degree.

As far as the Great Khali is concerned, part of the problem with that idea (again, I am sure that is what WWE has in mind), is that they have already killed, in part, supession of John Cena being able to defeat The Great Khaili by, already, showning that he, infact, can lift him onto to his shoulders. To put this into another context, some how, I doubt that imfaous "slam" at WrestleMania 3 would have been nearly as effective if they would have had Hogan, publically, before WrestleMania 3, lift Andre off his feet.

[QUOTE="lord_soultaker"]KhaliJML897

Bad idea.

Also, anyone who says they'd like to see Khali go over Cena(which will not happen) is completely blinded by their Cena hate. That's ridiculous. 

Sadly, there are plenty of folks who say that, including those will do completely ridiclous things such as having their username as "Anyone but Cena." :|

From a certain perspective, I think you can spin it to a good idea. Cena's crowd reactions have been increasingly negative since his feud with HBK started. This is especially scary on the recent foreign tours.  These people are supposed to be eating out of the WWE's palm.  The largest criticism of John Cena is, unjustly, his work rate. So you put him in a feud with a guy who is unquestionably a worse wrestler than John Cena, thus forcing the fans to back Cena. Also, the fact that said worker is a overpushed freak show (who holds an extremely rare pinfall victory over the Undertaker) and you've ensured that you've got you cliched against all odds scenario to keep the kiddies into it.

The_Dude14

Pretty much, this is the absolutely right and probably the only reason WWE is doing it. And on an semi-related note, they did it with McMahon and Lashley too. Or however Vince wants the fans to cheer at that point in time.

The only thing I don't understand is that Trips will probably want to be the main face when he comes back. So why not ride the wave of the Cena boo-birds until then?

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From a certain perspective, I think you can spin it to a good idea. Cena's crowd reactions have been increasingly negative since his feud with HBK started. This is especially scary on the recent foreign tours. These people are supposed to be eating out of the WWE's palm. The largest criticism of John Cena is, unjustly, his work rate. So you put him in a feud with a guy who is unquestionably a worse wrestler than John Cena, thus forcing the fans to back Cena. Also, the fact that said worker is a overpushed freak show (who holds an extremely rare pinfall victory over the Undertaker) and you've ensured that you've got you cliched against all odds scenario to keep the kiddies into it.

MistaMike54

Pretty much, this is the absolutely right and probably the only reason WWE is doing it. And on an semi-related note, they did it with McMahon and Lashley too. Or however Vince wants the fans to cheer at that point in time.

The only thing I don't understand is that Trips will probably want to be the main face when he comes back. So why not ride the wave of the Cena boo-birds until then?

The only thing I don't understand is that Trips will probably want to be the main face when he comes back. So why not ride the wave of the Cena boo-birds until then? MistaMike54

Or, Trips could be planning a heel turn upon his comeback. The DX comeback tour was weks away from complete failure and the crowd turning on them. Those pops were consistently diminishing with each successive lame segment. Triple H's last face run in 2002 was floptastic. Trips has always been more comfortable as a heel. That would explain the complete de-emphasation of Edge that has been especially apparent since the quad injury. Then, he and HBK could go out and wrestle the exact same match for the rest of the year.

Or, I'm just reading too much into things and pointing the finger unfairly at Triple H. That's definately a possibility.

Obviously NOT

Im not a Cena fan,but somebody in the WWE has to have enough sense to know that The Great Khali can't wrestle to save his life and he doesn't even look good when he does moves that need little effort like a big boot or a clothesline.

I haven't seen his legs bend that much so that makes him look like he's walking on stilts half the time and he just doesn't have a good character,they just keep throwing him around for some reason.He did have something versus Cena back in January/Febuary ,but it only lasted like 2 weeks before they from what I'm guessing just dumped the idea and then he just appeared to do sqash matches and then he moved over to Smackdown to fued with Kane going into Wrestlemania..which was a stupid thing to do..and now he's back at Cena for some reason and going for a title shot.

All the good talent they have they are pushing him for the title shot,they have officially run out of ideas for what to do with the title matches.If they do the dumbest thing they could ever do by having him somehow win the title,along with almost the whole wrestling world will be deeply saddened and disappointed with the WWE...for the rest of our lives.

It is not infact CENA shouldn't be a main eventer, I had nothing against the guy but after he made Benoit tap right away I was like this guy is not worth being a main eventer because the submission move he does all the time is stupied andbeating one of the most talented wrestlers in the WWE like that is********

After seing how he lefted KHALI, I said thats this overrated champ is going to overcome the odds and do the imposible.

He should loose I noticed in the front RAW that two guys shaking their head when he lefted KHALI but when he didn't they cheered for Khali.

The guy has no skills his moves look weak and slow, they should make him lose the tittle and keep him away for a few moths if not more.

When the wwe was WWF and in the era of THE ROCK and STONE COLD, they didn't use them like this when they were champions, and CENA IS NOT IN THE SAME LEG AS THEM, so why give him this over come the odds thing, make him win but don't make him do it endleesly.

Oh boy oh boy oh boy.. I hope cena has his health insurance paid up full. Khali showed through out his wwe career that he can do ... nothing.. his move set is limited and his major contribution to wrestling is injuries. afq2846

This is definitely a bad idea.  Cena has been having good to great matches lately but they have been with the likes of Umaga, HBK and Edge.  The Great Kahli is nowhere near any of those guys in terms of how good he is. 

Also just imagine if Kahli wins and Mark Henry comes back to win the World Title from Batista.
WWE Champion - The Great Kahli
World Heavyweight Champion - Mark Henry
ECW World Champion - Vince McMahon

its better then anything else they got going on right now.

Id just thought about this what happend on RAW this week Khali number one contender it seems like a bad idea to me seem as Khali isnt the most talented wrestlers you will ever see id just like to know what you people think about thislord_soultaker

The fact that Khali will get cheered (since everyone hates cena) will make me sick.Viper_GTS-R

The only reason why this is happening is because WWE doesnt really have any Number 1 contenders that havent already had a title shot Eg: Orton HBK Edge and more i mean whos next Chris Masters Seem as HHH isnt returning till around about Sumerslam this could happen BOOOOOOOOOO

Also this is nothing to do with this but ill post it anyway Taker will lose to batista in the steel cage because hes gotta have surgery and could be out for up to 9 months unlucky WWE

The only reason why this is happening is because WWE doesnt really have any Number 1 contenders that havent already had a title shot Eg: Orton HBK Edge and more i mean whos next Chris Masters Seem as HHH isnt returning till around about Sumerslam this could happen BOOOOOOOOOO

lord_soultaker

Err...

WWE doesn't really care how many times you've had a title shot. Look at 2006, Edge must of faced Cena 45 times. They had an alright story line going with this fatal 4 way thing, but when you put 2 or more faces together the "lead" face becomes less important, and therefor less dominant/strong looking.

They did this to make Cena top face again.

HHH is going to return and be in the run for the title and Khali will be forgottenCaptious

ya can khali bend his knees? lol

but this is lovely two guys who cant wrestle an average match. hell im not even sure hbk or the undertaker or even the rock could make khali look good and cena just never looks good unless coupled with some legend like hbk or whoever.

ya can khali bend his knees? lol

but this is lovely two guys who cant wrestle an average match. hell im not even sure hbk or the undertaker or even the rock could make khali look good and cena just never looks good unless coupled with some legend like hbk or whoever.

kayne2000

Yes legends such as HBK, Edge and Umaga??

well i hated john cena since his debut in WWE , the only time i cheered for him was his fued with edge last summer . Khali is one of the strongest wrestlers ive ever witnessed , and if he becomes WWE champion , he will be an unstoppable force in the industry . So i think its a good idea since Khali is one of the few ppl that can man-handle cena and keeps cena away from the WWE championship track list for a long time

When this whole thing went down last monday on Raw,I was hoping it was Cena that attacked all 3 of them and that he would turn heel and that maybe Orton would turn face and feud with Edge and HBK would go after Cena and both feuds would have some good matches,but it got completely destroyed when Khali came out,he was in the very back of my mind on coming out cause I knew he was on Raw,but I was hoping on a Cena turn or at least a less predictable person than the Great Khali

They will never have any good matches and will never have a big interest from fans because whatever Khali is involved with people don't pay attention as much or really care at all.

Bad idea if The Great Khali would have lost to Kane at 'mania 23, at least then he would look beatable, and if some how Cena beats Khali then Cena will look like a superman copy off, Cena shouldn't be in this match without someone else in the match just so Cena or who ever could beat each other, and if Cena loses then who who mind you would beat Khali if Cena can't and Kane can't then who??????????? :|wwe4ever_in05

[QUOTE="wwe4ever_in05"]Bad idea if The Great Khali would have lost to Kane at 'mania 23, at least then he would look beatable, and if some how Cena beats Khali then Cena will look like a superman copy off, Cena shouldn't be in this match without someone else in the match just so Cena or who ever could beat each other, and if Cena loses then who who mind you would beat Khali if Cena can't and Kane can't then who??????????? :|bulletproofcow

And HBK didn't lose, the ref stopped the match.  Soon too, that will be selectively phased out of history. 

hell **** nah....KHALI CAN'T WRESTLE.......they shouldve gave him a minor title shot against Chris Benoit or somebody.

Raw's main event is in so much shambles right now i dont know what they could do

They need to push HARD to the main event scene quickly

Jeff Hardy

Matt Hardy

Johnny Nitro

Shelton Benjamin

Charliee Haas

Because these guys are some of the best guys on Raw the Backbone  

hell **** nah....KHALI CAN'T WRESTLE.......they shouldve gave him a minor title shot against Chris Benoit or somebody.

BirdBoy_CM_HB

They just want CENA to look like superman, he made BENOIT tap out, he made UMAGA tap out, and now they want him to beat kkali. Imaging he plays the part of superman the movie that will be............... OMG I can't stop imaging him in that outfit.