Cena vs RVD Contract Signing on Raw. Yes, the term "Overcoming the odds" is used

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Making it official
June 3, 2006

The WWE Championship Match at ECW One Night Stand will be made official this Monday night on RAW when John Cena and Rob Van Dam ink their names to the contract.

RVD originally earned his opportunity for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 22 when he outlasted Ric Flair, Matt Hardy, Lashley, Finlay and Shelton Benjamin in a Money in the Bank Ladder Match. Mr. Monday Night then held onto his opportunity tightly before finally deciding to cash it in against John Cena at ECW One Night Stand.

According to the challenger, deciding to have One Night Stand be the site of his WWE Championship Match was a calculated decision for him. Not only will RVD be most comfortable in the ECW environment, but he’s also confident that he will not get “screwed” out of his opportunity if he’s competing on his home turf.

The road to One Night Stand for these two officially begins Monday on RAW when they sign the contract. Then it's off to the pay-per-view to see if RVD's calculations proved to be beneficial, or if John Cena can once again overcome the odds and walk away with his WWE Championship.

More on RAW...

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I'm seriously starting to have my doubts about rvd wining...
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...or if John Cena can once again overcome the odds and walk away with his WWE Championship.WWE.com preview

Against an ECW crowd? -- No chance.
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Even though that's the last thing I want, I think Cena will win. Question is..if he DOES win, will he be able to survive the following riot?
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RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.
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[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]Even though that's the last thing I want, I think Cena will win. Question is..if he DOES win, will he be able to survive the following riot?


I agree with this one. I think Cena will win too but after the match, I think there will be a big brawl between WWE and ECW.
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[QUOTE="bloody1f4knight"] [QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]Even though that's the last thing I want, I think Cena will win. Question is..if he DOES win, will he be able to survive the following riot?


I agree with this one. I think Cena will win too but after the match, I think there will be a big brawl between WWE and ECW.

Then, Paul Heyman announces a tournament for the ECW: World Champion. The finals would be Kurt Angle vs RVD.

I cam dream, can't I? (unless RVD DOES win the championship, then Im already happy)
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[QUOTE="bloody1f4knight"] [QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]Even though that's the last thing I want, I think Cena will win. Question is..if he DOES win, will he be able to survive the following riot?


I agree with this one. I think Cena will win too but after the match, I think there will be a big brawl between WWE and ECW.



or noone wins and a brawl ensues
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[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"][QUOTE="bloody1f4knight"] [QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]Even though that's the last thing I want, I think Cena will win. Question is..if he DOES win, will he be able to survive the following riot?


I agree with this one. I think Cena will win too but after the match, I think there will be a big brawl between WWE and ECW.

Then, Paul Heyman announces a tournament for the ECW: World Champion. The finals would be Kurt Angle vs RVD.

I cam dream, can't I? (unless RVD DOES win the championship, then Im already happy)



I like that a lot more then RVD winning.
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I think the title match depends on who will be representing both brands as a champion.

Would you keep Mysterio as champion , to maybe lose to Booker T/or Batista (hyped about his return by the way)

Or would you rather have Cena keep it, to challange Edge at Vengeance?

Either way i see ECW picking up at least one title.

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RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.mrgab

I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands.  They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.
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[QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.trick_man01

I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands.  They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

what they need to do is have a tournament to determine the ECW champ and Tag champs.

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.trick_man01

I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands.  They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.

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[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.mrgab


I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands. They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.



It would just be another setback for smackdown
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[QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.straven_marven


I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands. They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.



It would just be another setback for smackdown

But lets say HHH wins the title, would get a HHH vs Batista on smackdown, or maybe HBK as champ, then have HBK vs Orton or HBK vs Benoit on smackdown. Those would be some great rematches/matches for smackdown. Especially compared to having Mark Henry vs Rey... you really want to see more of Mark Henry?

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RVD vs. Kurt Angle...alright alright.

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[QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.mrgab


I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands. They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.



It would just be another setback for smackdown

But lets say HHH wins the title, would get a HHH vs Batista on smackdown, or maybe HBK as champ, then have HBK vs Orton or HBK vs Benoit on smackdown. Those would be some great rematches/matches for smackdown. Especially compared to having Mark Henry vs Rey... you really want to see more of Mark Henry?



IT wouldnt leave anyroom for elevating younger stars, and by god mc mahon would never have smackdown deface raw in such a manner
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RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.mrgab

Nah, Sabu will beat Mysterio for the WHC

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[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.mrgab

I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands.  They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.

No one seems to remember how much the floating champion thing sucked, though.  It rendered the off-month brand even more irrelevant.
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[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.straven_marven


I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands. They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.



It would just be another setback for smackdown

But lets say HHH wins the title, would get a HHH vs Batista on smackdown, or maybe HBK as champ, then have HBK vs Orton or HBK vs Benoit on smackdown. Those would be some great rematches/matches for smackdown. Especially compared to having Mark Henry vs Rey... you really want to see more of Mark Henry?



IT wouldnt leave anyroom for elevating younger stars, and by god mc mahon would never have smackdown deface raw in such a manner

Thats what the IC and US champ is for, young stars to start off on.

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[QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.mrgab


I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands. They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.



It would just be another setback for smackdown

But lets say HHH wins the title, would get a HHH vs Batista on smackdown, or maybe HBK as champ, then have HBK vs Orton or HBK vs Benoit on smackdown. Those would be some great rematches/matches for smackdown. Especially compared to having Mark Henry vs Rey... you really want to see more of Mark Henry?



IT wouldnt leave anyroom for elevating younger stars, and by god mc mahon would never have smackdown deface raw in such a manner

Thats what the IC and US champ is for, young stars to start off on.



Its a shame that both titles seem to have no value anymore, midcarders need to feud with much bigger stars inorder to get respect, and it wont help with them in the title competition
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I don't know I'm rooting for RVD but I wouldn't be surprised if Cena were to retain even if it is an ECW crowd.
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[QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.mrgab


I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands. They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.



It would just be another setback for smackdown

But lets say HHH wins the title, would get a HHH vs Batista on smackdown, or maybe HBK as champ, then have HBK vs Orton or HBK vs Benoit on smackdown. Those would be some great rematches/matches for smackdown. Especially compared to having Mark Henry vs Rey... you really want to see more of Mark Henry?



IT wouldnt leave anyroom for elevating younger stars, and by god mc mahon would never have smackdown deface raw in such a manner

Thats what the IC and US champ is for, young stars to start off on.

Unfortunately the WWE has kind of ruined that mentality. It did good things for Orton for example, but now the IC title is defended about once a month, and Flair (big up and comer watch out for him) held it for a few months. On the SD side u got Booker T and Benoit and JBL holding it, all former main eventers (2 of which should still be in the main event). Right now Shelton and Lashley are the right guys though, lets just hope they actually do something with them.

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[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]RVD will win, ECW will have a title belt, and the smackdown belt will be both on raw and smackdown, floating between brands for either side to win.SeriousThreat


I doubt it that the Heavyweight title will float between brands. They will come up with something to keep both titles and reactivate the ECW World Title.

They had it float years back, could happen again.



It would just be another setback for smackdown

But lets say HHH wins the title, would get a HHH vs Batista on smackdown, or maybe HBK as champ, then have HBK vs Orton or HBK vs Benoit on smackdown. Those would be some great rematches/matches for smackdown. Especially compared to having Mark Henry vs Rey... you really want to see more of Mark Henry?



IT wouldnt leave anyroom for elevating younger stars, and by god mc mahon would never have smackdown deface raw in such a manner

Thats what the IC and US champ is for, young stars to start off on.

Unfortunately the WWE has kind of ruined that mentality. It did good things for Orton for example, but now the IC title is defended about once a month, and Flair (big up and comer watch out for him) held it for a few months. On the SD side u got Booker T and Benoit and JBL holding it, all former main eventers (2 of which should still be in the main event). Right now Shelton and Lashley are the right guys though, lets just hope they actually do something with them.



I agree the belts are on the right people now (though I think it may be a little too early for Lashley, not totally sure though), and hopefully the WWE will do good things with these guys as champs.  Sadly, though, I'm not actually that hopeful; the WWE seem to have forgotten that once they give someone a belt, they need to keep establishing them, like they did with Randy Orton.  As it stands, they just seem to assume that handing someone the belt suddenly automatically establishes them, which it obviously doesn't.  We saw that mentality with Shelton's first title reign - he just sort of... held the belt, and that was it.  No story, no push, hardly any air time.  It was as if holding the title was meant to preclude the need for any more development.  That's an attidue the WWE need to get rid of ASAP... but sadly, I still don't see them doing much with Shelton, and so I foresee this trend continuing.  I see Lashley getting a big push with or without the US title (he's a big muscular guy - Vince McMahon must love the guy), but Shelton... I don't know, with or without the IC title, I kinda foresee the WWE forgetting he exists all over again.
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They can't have ECW take the WWE Title. All the WWE history of title holds is going to go to ECW to become the ECW Heavyweight Championship? I hope they don't do this.
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Right now Shelton and Lashley are the right guys though, lets just hope they actually do something with them.SeriousThreat

Well I think Lashley's driving on a steady road of success since capturing the US title. I was a bit skeptical about him being thrown into squash matches, but after witnessing what went down over this week's SmackDown, it is evident that he will be used properly. Being in the main event of the show puts some prestige back into the US title, and notably to the division too. Plus, he's working with some excellent workers right now, in particular, Booker T. He's really kicking off to a good direction.

Meanwhile, Shelton has been thrown about like a rag doll, winning and losing matches all over the place. Apparently he owns the IC title but if the WWE actually bothered to acknowledge his presence as a champion, maybe I would look at things differently. The guy doesn't even get a mention on WWE.com's preview let alone one of those promo videos advertising a match at the start of RAW. With so much potential and a belt below his waist, I sure hope WWE decides to show some effort using him and the division too.

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this is getting very annoying with over coming the odds
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this is getting very annoying with over coming the oddsDevouring_One

Yeah, every show you hear, "Can he over come the odds once again?" or "Will we seem him over come the odds at the PPV?" at least twice. It's so annoying, and it's always about the champions too, like it's always, "Can [Rey or Cena] over come the odds?" Yet there a damn champion and there losing, (well Rey is, the one who should be winning more out of those 2.)

Plus I'm pretty much assuming that RVD is going to lose considering that WWE isn't smart enough to come up with an angle that would have him win the WWE title and be in ECW, unless he just threw the title down after he won it and then on the first episode of ECW coming back Heyman gave RVD a new ECW title. But that would also suck because even though he won a title match he'd be handed a different title for no reason other than winning the WWE title and not wanting it for some reason.
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[QUOTE="oreoshane"]
this is getting very annoying with over coming the oddsDevouring_One

Yeah, every show you hear, "Can he over come the odds once again?" or "Will we seem him over come the odds at the PPV?" at least twice. It's so annoying, and it's always about the champions too, like it's always, "Can [Rey or Cena] over come the odds?" Yet there a damn champion and there losing, (well Rey is, the one who should be winning more out of those 2.)

Plus I'm pretty much assuming that RVD is going to lose considering that WWE isn't smart enough to come up with an angle that would have him win the WWE title and be in ECW, unless he just threw the title down after he won it and then on the first episode of ECW coming back Heyman gave RVD a new ECW title. But that would also suck because even though he won a title match he'd be handed a different title for no reason other than winning the WWE title and not wanting it for some reason.



it would make sense if he had a huge speach and wowed the fans, I want to see thoughts heard at this ppv and I want THEM LOUD, you know the others ones than f**k cena chants
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[QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="oreoshane"]
this is getting very annoying with over coming the oddsDevouring_One

Yeah, every show you hear, "Can he over come the odds once again?" or "Will we seem him over come the odds at the PPV?" at least twice. It's so annoying, and it's always about the champions too, like it's always, "Can [Rey or Cena] over come the odds?" Yet there a damn champion and there losing, (well Rey is, the one who should be winning more out of those 2.)

Plus I'm pretty much assuming that RVD is going to lose considering that WWE isn't smart enough to come up with an angle that would have him win the WWE title and be in ECW, unless he just threw the title down after he won it and then on the first episode of ECW coming back Heyman gave RVD a new ECW title. But that would also suck because even though he won a title match he'd be handed a different title for no reason other than winning the WWE title and not wanting it for some reason.



it would make sense if he had a huge speach and wowed the fans, I want to see thoughts heard at this ppv and I want THEM LOUD, you know the others ones than f**k cena chants


If we're lucky we might hear a "F*** WWE" chant. :)
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Can someone please explain it to me that why people hate WWE so much. I mean they are probably watching Raw and Smackdown every week but then when it comes down to WWE vs. ECW, everyone cheers for ECW.. I just don't get that.
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#32 oreoshane
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[QUOTE="bloody1f4knight"]Can someone please explain it to me that why people hate WWE so much. I mean they are probably watching Raw and Smackdown every week but then when it comes down to WWE vs. ECW, everyone cheers for ECW.. I just don't get that.


Just because you like ECW better doesn't mean you hate WWE. 0.o
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#33 straven_marven
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[QUOTE="bloody1f4knight"]Can someone please explain it to me that why people hate WWE so much. I mean they are probably watching Raw and Smackdown every week but then when it comes down to WWE vs. ECW, everyone cheers for ECW.. I just don't get that.



i dont hate wwe, i just dislike it, I watch it just to see if they do something right. they also misuse alot of their superstars. AND mc mahon ruins evreything he appears on
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#34 Kotenks
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Carlito>>>Masters in talent correct?

Matsers loses to Carlito at Backlash but gets IC title shots while Carlito is on heat.

That's why I dislike the WWE. The WWE is the big company so its easier to root against them

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Can someone please explain it to me that why people hate WWE so much. I mean they are probably watching Raw and Smackdown every week but then when it comes down to WWE vs. ECW, everyone cheers for ECW.. I just don't get that. bloody1f4knight
Because ECW never once forced me to watch someone literally kiss Paul Heyman's ass when I tune in for wrestling.

Kidding aside, very few of us actually hate WWE.  Most of us here want to love WWE the same way we used to, but we are really disappointed in the product WWE puts forth, especially considering that company's resources.  So when something comes along that might change things for the better, like TNA was supposed to and like we hope ECW will, we embrace it.

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#36 oreoshane
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[QUOTE="bloody1f4knight"]Can someone please explain it to me that why people hate WWE so much. I mean they are probably watching Raw and Smackdown every week but then when it comes down to WWE vs. ECW, everyone cheers for ECW.. I just don't get that. The_Dude14

Because ECW never once forced me to watch someone literally kiss Paul Heyman's ass when I tune in for wrestling.

Kidding aside, very few of us actually hate WWE. Most of us here want to love WWE the same way we used to, but we are really disappointed in the product WWE puts forth, especially considering that company's resources. So when something comes along that might change things for the better, like TNA was supposed to and like we hope ECW will, we embrace it.


That made me fall off my chair. :lol: