Cena, Wrestlemania, more

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John Cena has just announced that he definitely will not be competing at Wrestlemania 24 due to his injury. He says that he will more than likely will be at the arena during the show, but says you probably won't see him on camera. He is currently in shooting for his new movie and plans on returning in late May when the movie is finished. Also, I would just like to say congratulations to Cena on his engagement with longtime girlfriend Liz.

I was hoping that Cena would never return, I was starting to enjoy Raw again >_>RenegadePatriot

As far as Cena's title run that refused to die, I could not agree more, even if Orton as alternative, is kinda of lackluster.

Other than that, not taking his cheesy character into account, I miss him, if only for his resilient workrate.

[QUOTE="RenegadePatriot"]I was hoping that Cena would never return, I was starting to enjoy Raw again >_>Link256

As far as Cena's title run that refused to die, I could not agree more, even if Orton as alternative, is kinda of lackluster.

Other than that, not taking his cheesy character into account, I miss him, if only for his resilient workrate.

That would be great (although then we'd have to deal with a face orton, but it'd be worth it). I remember the good days in 2003 when he was a heel...he was such a good character and a suprisingly solid wrestler.

I've said it before, but bringing Cena back as a heel would be a huge mistake. I think this break from Cena is just what the doctor ordered. I'll be shocked if Cena doesn't come back hotter than ever. After a few months off from the superhero with Triple H trying to fill in, the hatred should have died down, if not almost completely, while his fans will be behind him huge. He'll come back as the top face WWE has been trying to get him over as for the last few years. It would be borderline idiocy not to run with that. Personally, I'm betting that Triple H will turn heel on John Cena to use that momentum to get himself over. I'd be shocked if he didn't. Capitilize on the momentum of his return and let him enjoy nearly 100% positive reactions for once and save the heel turn for down the road, where it could potentially be something on the same scale as Hogan in 96.

Plus heel Cena does not automatically make for better promos. The same writers are going to be there. And there's no guarantee that heel = better delivary by Cena either. Lets just hope that, maybe, he tok some acting classes in his free time, so that, face or heel, he improves there. In 2003, I believe Cena was writing his own stuff, which might be a reason his promos were so much better. Plus, he wasn't that great in 03 in the ring. He showed potential, that's all. In 2007, he delivered on that potential. There are very few wrestlers who can claim to have wrestled better matches than John Cena in 2007, so the heel = better matches thing doesn't fly with me, either.

Also, did you suggest turning Orton face? I think that is also a bad idea. Orton has shown absolutely no sign that he would do any better than the epically bad 2004 face run. If anything, I think Orton has actually gotten worse when it comes to the personality department. Nothing he has done suggests to me that he could do anything positive as a face. Orton strikes me as a career heel.

The only thing that does concern me about Cena's return is where it'll leave Jeff Hardy, who has been the biggest benificiary of Cena's absence. Unfortunately, I'm thinking he gets demoted to Samckdown after Wrestlemania, where he'll get his world title run. That's not an awful thing, I think there's a lot for him and others on Smackdown, but its unfortunate that it'll happen without the prestige of Raw. If things go like I anticipate, I'll be far more interested in Smackdown with Jeff Hardy vs Edge and a Matt Hardy heel turn for a Hardy-Hardy feud (which would almost have to be better than their 2001 feud, which I believe they are ashamed of, too), than Raw with Cena-Orton-H.

I've said it before, but bringing Cena back as a heel would be a huge mistake. I think this break from Cena is just what the doctor ordered. I'll be shocked if Cena doesn't come back hotter than ever. After a few months off from the superhero with Triple H trying to fill in, the hatred should have died down, if not almost completely, while his fans will be behind him huge. He'll come back as the top face WWE has been trying to get him over as for the last few years. It would be borderline idiocy not to run with that. Personally, I'm betting that Triple H will turn heel on John Cena to use that momentum to get himself over. I'd be shocked if he didn't. Capitilize on the momentum of his return and let him enjoy nearly 100% positive reactions for once and save the heel turn for down the road, where it could potentially be something on the same scale as Hogan in 96.

Plus heel Cena does not automatically make for better promos. The same writers are going to be there. And there's no guarantee that heel = better delivary by Cena either. Lets just hope that, maybe, he tok some acting classes in his free time, so that, face or heel, he improves there. In 2003, I believe Cena was writing his own stuff, which might be a reason his promos were so much better. Plus, he wasn't that great in 03 in the ring. He showed potential, that's all. In 2007, he delivered on that potential. There are very few wrestlers who can claim to have wrestled better matches than John Cena in 2007, so the heel = better matches thing doesn't fly with me, either.

Also, did you suggest turning Orton face? I think that is also a bad idea. Orton has shown absolutely no sign that he would do any better than the epically bad 2004 face run. If anything, I think Orton has actually gotten worse when it comes to the personality department. Nothing he has done suggests to me that he could do anything positive as a face. Orton strikes me as a career heel.

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And although he had a few good matches, he was still better in 2003 in my opinion. I really enjoyed his match with Brock Lesnar at Backlash, his fued with Undertaker and fued with Kurt Angle (and specifically their match at No Mercy), definitely more then anything he did in 07' (but to be fair, I never saw the Cena v Micheals II match in London, besides for on one of the 'best of 07' things, where it didn't look very good, but to be fair pretty much every match they show on those best of specials aren't nearly as good as they were on the actual show they were on).

And as to Orton turning face, I'm aware he wouldn't make a very good face, I just suggested it as a way to get Cena heel. I just think that the improvements to Cena from Face to a heel for the downgrade of Heel Orton to Face Orton is worth it, especially since I hate Orton already and even moreso because he'll probably just stay face for 2 or 3 months and then they'll get him to RKO a Diva or something like he did before and hes a heel again....everybody wins.

He'll definitely have great momentum coming back as a face, so your right that he'll definitely be very popular when he comes back, but when he does its only a matter of time before he gets boo'd again. And I definitely agree that for buisness purposes, a face return of Cena would be more profitable, I'm just saying I would much rather see him come back as a heel. As far as better promos go, I just think they'll be better because when he was a heel his character was more entertaining. Now pretty much all of his promos go along to 'I will never quite' lines, and although he doesn't rap anymore, they still sort of give him the child friendly hip hop gimmick kind of thing, and it really doesn't work. Demonic_Jin

Also, I think turning Cena heel would be a lot harder than people are thinking it will be. I think people calling for a heel turn are underestimating how loyal the majority of Cena's fanbase is to him right now. I think you'd need one hell of an angle or a stronger face for Cena to turn on to make it stick to those fans, particularly on a return. I just don't think they have that in them, either.

And although he had a few good matches, he was still better in 2003 in my opinion. I really enjoyed his match with Brock Lesnar at Backlash, his fued with Undertaker and fued with Kurt Angle (and specifically their match at No Mercy), definitely more then anything he did in 07' (but to be fair, I never saw the Cena v Micheals II match in London, besides for on one of the 'best of 07' things, where it didn't look very good, but to be fair pretty much every match they show on those best of specials aren't nearly as good as they were on the actual show they were on).Demonic_Jin

And as to Orton turning face, I'm aware he wouldn't make a very good face, I just suggested it as a way to get Cena heel. I just think that the improvements to Cena from Face to a heel for the downgrade of Heel Orton to Face Orton is worth it, especially since I hate Orton already and even moreso because he'll probably just stay face for 2 or 3 months and then they'll get him to RKO a Diva or something like he did before and hes a heel again....everybody wins.

Demonic_Jin

Good, at least there's no chance of Cena entering this year's Royal Rumble at number 30 and against the odds winning the thing.Total-KO

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]Good, at least there's no chance of Cena entering this year's Royal Rumble at number 30 and against the odds winning the thing.trick_man01

Good, at least there's no chance of Cena entering this year's Royal Rumble at number 30 and against the odds winning the thing.Total-KO

Was that sarcasm? Because if you haven't read the results yet that's a kinda funny