Do you think WCW was bad?

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#1 The_Last_Ride
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Do you guys think WCW s""ked. I mean the entire era it was?
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#2 sephy37
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i don't think the whole lifespan of WCW sucked. i mean it had it's terrible moments (i.e. goldberg, hogan, warrior, burying ric flair, sid vicious, etc.) but the real reason i watch WCW was because of it's cruiserweights. the best match ever in WCW is arguably Rey Mysterio vs. Eddie Guerrero at Halloween Havoc in 97.
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#3 The_Last_Ride
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I think they had good matches. But i think Hogan destryoed a lot of WCW in my oppinion.
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#4 DuckSol
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WCW wasn't bad... it had it's bad time frames but it also had it's amazingly good time frames (just like every other wrestling promotion).  What killed it was bad decisions and the company itself not being run correctly.

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#5 manhunt1001
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They had one guy who i loved, Dean Malenko, who wasnt used to his potential in the WWE.
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#6 The_Dude14
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1996-most of 1998, WCW was very good, IMO.  Shortly thereafter, everything went to hell in WCW.

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#7 The_Dude14
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I think they had good matches. But i think Hogan destryoed a lot of WCW in my oppinion.The_Last_Ride
Also keep in mind, Hogan was just as responsible for making WCW what it was as he was for destroying it.

There were a lot of things responsible for killing WCW, Hogan wasn't alone in the destruction.

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#8 inferno-gaa
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No. I think it was just bad writing and bad creative. WCW had a lot of potential and right up to 1999. I genuinly thought that it would be WWF going bust not WCW.
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#9 hbk91
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It certainly wasn't. wCw actually revolutionised pro wrestling with memorable highlights such as the nWo for example, even though the faction was running stale with the likes of Bagwell and Virgil joining forces.

I think the downfall of wCw basically erupted from the clash of egos' we saw reflect on TV.  I wouldn't necessarily blame Hogan on his own but he had a big role on destructing the fed. So did the likes of Russo, Rhodes, and of course, Bischoff.

Eh, David Arquette defeating the likes of Jarrett for the title makes me look now at Jeff in TNA and laugh. One idea that also saw a decent fed like wCw dust away...

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#10 DirtyDarren
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1996-most of 1998, WCW was very good, IMO. Shortly thereafter, everything went to hell in WCW.

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I feel exactly the same..... I didn't watch much of WCW at the time, but now that it's gone I've had a chance to go back and look at the matches.  Some very good matches there.
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#11 Devouring_One
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I liked WCW because they had alot of wrestlers. I stopped watching it when the older wrestlers started to leave
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#12 The_Last_Ride
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nWo was cool at first, but then there were like 50 people in it. Then it got boring.

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#13 oneofakind_07
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I think that WCW was good, just WWE had the better matches and storyline, but now TNA is like the new WWE
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#14 sephy37
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hehe, you guys need to buy this book to see who REALLY killed the WCW.

The Death of WCW

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#15 manhunt1001
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I guess another depressing issue during the WCW time was the loss of Miss Elizabeth. Her sweet character turned so much during the WCW era and i didnt like that.
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#16 JML897
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hehe, you guys need to buy this book to see who REALLY killed the WCW.

The Death of WCW

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YES!!! Definitely. That book is awesome.

Anyway...I liked WCW. It was awesome from about 95-98, and from 99-01, it was fun to watch in a hilarious way.
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#17 Pack_Man
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WCW had some good wrestlers..
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#18 master4scorpion
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WCW Had Its Good Times And Its Bad Times But I Don't Think It Was Bad
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#19 TheGm86
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WCW got me back into wrestling. I stoped watching it in 98-99 so i did not see how far WCW fell there at the end.

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#20 shoot_em_up123
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WCW was good.  They had the potential but the owners and all really destroyed it I think.
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#21 skizz624
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once it evolved from the Jim Crocket era of the old NWA to the WCW we knew as when Ted Turner bought it, it was going in the right direction but could never keep up with the WWF/WWE. then they brought in the Hulkster to pick the ratings up, which it did, but they started trying too hard and some of the story lines just got too stupid to watch and it started going back down, till the final demise.if they would have not competed on TV the same night as the WWF/WWE all would have been well. the older Starcades, and Clash of the Champions matches will always be my favorites.
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#22 The_Last_Ride
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One thing i don't understand. How in the hell did David Arquette get champion?

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#23 evansdada
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To me things started to go down hill when they changed over from the NWA.  When I first started watching wrestling, I thought the NWA was superior to the WWF at the time.  I think I finally turned away from WCW when they put the title on David Arquette.  I felt that was the writing on the wall.  Oh! Lets not forget putting Dennis Rodman in a wrestling match.

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#24 The_Last_Ride
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To me things started to go down hill when they changed over from the NWA.  When I first started watching wrestling, I thought the NWA was superior to the WWF at the time.  I think I finally turned away from WCW when they put the title on David Arquette.  I felt that was the writing on the wall.  Oh! Lets not forget putting Dennis Rodman in a wrestling match.

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What! Was Dennis Rodman in a wrestling match!?

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#25 skizz624
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the david arquette, dennis rodman thing, was what i was talking about when it got stupid. dennis rodman was out of basketball and had nothing better to do, and david arquette was promoting that wrestling movie with the WCW stars in it, called "Ready To Rumble". the old NWA that Jim Crockett sr. ran was far superior to the then WWWF, then his son took over and ran it down till Turner took it. gives me flashbacks to the live matches i seen of the old NWA stars, nothing but wrestling, none of the story B.S.
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I only tuned in to watch the luchadores, not cruserweights, in actions. But later in the end of WCW, the creative or management pushed them aside. Plus making Rey, Psichosis and some others to take off their masks, that was stupud. I really hated that.
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#27 skizz624
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I only tuned in to watch the luchadores, not cruserweights, in actions. But later in the end of WCW, the creative or management pushed them aside. Plus making Rey, Psichosis and some others to take off their masks, that was stupud. I really hated that.L3M
they were the best part of the later shows. when i had Directv i use to watch the spanish channels which had LucheLibre on saturday afternoons, it was great, i couldn't understand the commentary but the action was excellent.
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I watched WCW from 97 to the end of 98, and all I can remember are good times, I watched every show and I ordered all most every PPV, I stopped watching it when Goldberg lost the title to Nash and when Nash lost it to Hogan, the last thing I remember about WCW was that damn finger poke.
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#29 L3M
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[QUOTE="L3M"]I only tuned in to watch the luchadores, not cruserweights, in actions. But later in the end of WCW, the creative or management pushed them aside. Plus making Rey, Psichosis and some others to take off their masks, that was stupud. I really hated that.skizz624
they were the best part of the later shows. when i had Directv i use to watch the spanish channels which had LucheLibre on saturday afternoons, it was great, i couldn't understand the commentary but the action was excellent.

Oh man, I miss watching lucha libre. It sucks that I don't cable to watch the action. ****!

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#30 deanie25
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I like WCW it had some realy good matchs i like it very much and some of it stars were good as well
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once it evolved from the Jim Crocket era of the old NWA to the WCW we knew as when Ted Turner bought it, it was going in the right direction but could never keep up with the WWF/WWE. then they brought in the Hulkster to pick the ratings up, which it did, but they started trying too hard and some of the story lines just got too stupid to watch and it started going back down, till the final demise.if they would have not competed on TV the same night as the WWF/WWE all would have been well. the older Starcades, and Clash of the Champions matches will always be my favorites.skizz624

Skizz, While I give you credit for your rough analysis of WCW, why not mention the 2 years where WCW was breaking even with WWE from 1995-97 and the year and a half where WCW beat WWE in the ratings for over a year in 97 and 98? Why not mention that people like Bill Goldberg, Diamond Dallas Page, Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, Perry Saturn and Scott Steiner had tremendous success there and most of them used their careers there so they could platform to the WWE?

In my opinion WCW had the best wrestling matches from 1996-1998, bar none. Stealing the cruiserweights from ECW was the smartest thing Bischoff could have ever done. Then plus having technicians in the ring liek the people I mentioned earlier put WCW over the top. While certain ppl like Steiner, Hogan, Nash, DDP, Sting and Goldberg didn't need great storylines because they were already established, the younger guys like Mysterio, Helms, Saturn, Benoit , Guerrero, damn even people liek Raven,Shane Douglas, Kanyon who had talent, were never given a real opportunity to succeed and after a while the guys who were older couldn't run the company any more, people wanted to see the younger guys, the only problem was they were either wasted, like Mike Awesome and a few other guys, or they jumped ship to WWE or back to ECW.

Again in my opinion, things were getting really bad when Vince Russo and Ed Ferrera came in, but they real ruined that company. They got off to a good start giving the younger guys an opportunity like Kidman fighting Hogan and Stasiak Fighting Hennig, but when it came to take these things to the next level, they screwed up and gave Jarrett the title. That was another huge mistake I believe.

anywayz, I have easily over 200 hours of wcw tapes in my room from those days(96-98) and they were by far my favorite in ECW,WCW, and WWE. Competition was what this buisness always needs, it's just sad there's not as much right now as there should be.

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I watched WCW from 97 to the end of 98, and all I can remember are good times, I watched every show and I ordered all most every PPV, I stopped watching it when Goldberg lost the title to Nash and when Nash lost it to Hogan, the last thing I remember about WCW was that damn finger poke.MetalDragonKing

I still remember that night, and I still have that nitro on tape. I was so disgusted at Nash after that night lol. I was 14 and already watched him work his way up from Vinny Vegas and Diesel and I was so upset he just gave the title up like that.

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[QUOTE="MetalDragonKing"]I watched WCW from 97 to the end of 98, and all I can remember are good times, I watched every show and I ordered all most every PPV, I stopped watching it when Goldberg lost the title to Nash and when Nash lost it to Hogan, the last thing I remember about WCW was that damn finger poke.sonicboom713

I still remember that night, and I still have that nitro on tape. I was so disgusted at Nash after that night lol. I was 14 and already watched him work his way up from Vinny Vegas and Diesel and I was so upset he just gave the title up like that.

It could have been worse, you could have been there live.
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#34 The_Last_Ride
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Has anyone of you seen Monday Night War?
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#35 sonicboom713
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Has anyone of you seen Monday Night War?The_Last_Ride

Yes sir, I own it

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[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]Has anyone of you seen Monday Night War?sonicboom713

Yes sir, I own it

I don't actually own one. I burnt one from teh pc:P. Since they dont sell or send any wrestling in this country:(

Anyways how did you like it?

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#37 sonicboom713
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[QUOTE="sonicboom713"]

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]Has anyone of you seen Monday Night War?The_Last_Ride

Yes sir, I own it

I don't actually own one. I burnt one from teh pc:P. Since they dont sell or send any wrestling in this country:(

Anyways how did you like it?

I think it showed the ECW and WCW had something in common, their greatest strengths, heyman and Bischoff were there biggest weaknesses

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#38 The_Last_Ride
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Have they published any dvd like that about WWE?
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When i was young and all that WCW vs WWF stuff was going on i still NEVER watched WCW. It was a bootlegged crappy version of WWF to me. When i saw goldberg i saw a Fake-MeOut Stone Cold Stive Austin. I had a friend who always wanted me to watch it. I watched it for like 5 seconds one night and then quickly turned the channel. I don't care waht anyone says, i hate WcW. 
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When i was young and all that WCW vs WWF stuff was going on i still NEVER watched WCW. It was a bootlegged crappy version of WWF to me. When i saw goldberg i saw a Fake-MeOut Stone Cold Stive Austin. I had a friend who always wanted me to watch it. I watched it for like 5 seconds one night and then quickly turned the channel. I don't care waht anyone says, i hate WcW.  SwimPUNK

First off saying that Goldberg is a "fake me out version "of the texas rattle snake is pretty damn ignorant. LoL then you go and say that your entire knowledge of WCW is five seconds worth of watching it and you hate it?

If you were smart, you'd realize atleast 50% of the wrestlers that you watch in the WWE came from there at one point or another.

This may be hard for you to realize, but without WCW, their may well be no WWE today. Look at the crap they were doing when WCW was winning the ratings. The competition put a fire in Vince's azz, and made him change the way he was running his company.

Now look how bad WWE has been since theres no real competition for the past few years. Wake up and smell the coffee dude, or start doing Yoga and open your mind to other things like DDP lol