Does anybody else think when WWE...

bought WCW and became WWE it all went downhill, i miss everything from the WWf adittude era, the logo, the stages, the hardcore title, better storylines, better use of superstars, i mean what the hell happened.

Anyone know how long it is til HHH, Steph and Shane take over?

well it went down because they had too many wrestlers and they split the shows apartDevouring_One

and they lost the Hardy Boys and the hardcore title

[QUOTE="Devouring_One"]well it went down because they had too many wrestlers and they split the shows apartnintendogamer19

and they lost the Hardy Boys and the hardcore title

If TNA ever becomes a major threat, the quality of WWE will improve.JML897

TNA is now running house shows already. They have fans rioting WWE's Byte This amongst other WWE relations. Vince has probably started to notice "something is up".

well WWE just dosent feel the same as it did 5 or 6 years ago. And why did they change their name?nintendogamer19

[QUOTE="nintendogamer19"]well WWE just dosent feel the same as it did 5 or 6 years ago. And why did they change their name?Chicago_Nut

Really, I did not know that :o

if anything ruined the last 5 years of WWE, it is bad investments, poor writing, and lackluster matches.

the invasion angle was a fiasco and wwe dropped the ball when they hired kevin nash, goldberg, and scott steiner.

if anything ruined the last 5 years of WWE, it is bad investments, poor writing, and lackluster matches.

the invasion angle was a fiasco and wwe dropped the ball when they hired kevin nash, goldberg, and scott steiner.

sephy37

i can agree with all of those reasons

and the World Wildlife Fund was just being lame by suing over the names

and the World Wildlife Fund was just being lame by suing over the namesnintendogamer19

Names such as The Dudley Boyz now known as Team 3D, Rhyno now spelt with an "i" in TNA prop up in mind. Apparently WWE holds the rights to Matt Hardy's name even though Matt is Matt...

So yeah, that's lame n'all you know.

What happened? This happened...

-ECW and WCW were bought, which left WWE without any competition...no competition,=no threat=laziness=lower quality. On side note, this was the begging of the end for the Attitude era

-The Rock left WWF/WWE (for few months), which left WWF/WWE without their biggest face and than...Vince scrambled to find replacement and had little success doing so

-Both Triple H and Chris Benoit were injured, which left the WWF/WWE without two of their bigger superstars, at the time

-Invasion happen and other than RVD, very little in good came from it....too many belts, too many workers, too many lackluster matches and too much terrible writing led this to be one of the worst story-lines in WWE and wrestling history...

WWE has never fully recovered from the invasion story-line and this was simply the begging of WWF's/WWE's downfall from grace. The serious lack of competition is what happen to WWF/WWE...again, no competition=no threat=laziness=lower quality.

JML, could you please explain why the hardcore title sucked? Very unpredictable it was, bad ass it was.

The reason WWE went down hill was the storylines. Look at Jillian Halls face(b4) and you have your explanation

JML, could you please explain why the hardcore title sucked? Very unpredictable it was, bad ass it was.

The reason WWE went down hill was the storylines. Look at Jillian Halls face(b4) and you have your explanation

Dark_Hylian8

I am obviously not JML897, but I am sure he will agree with me on the following points...

• Cookie sheets, shopping carts and trash cans do not equal hardcore and neither does Bob Holly
• It was utterly ridiculous on how almost everyone was the champion, how ridiculously often the belt changed hands and how guys such as Steven Richards were 16 time champ (or was that 21 times) or how Crash Holly was 12 time champ...took away  practically all credibility away from the belt
• The matches became repeative, predicatable and boring

Simply put, the belt was joke, unless RVD was holding the belt, IMHO.

Edit: I will say this...it was humorous on how WWF/WWE used old, broken-down WWF championship belt as the "hardcored" title. However, that was obviously not worth the trouble that belt brought, IMHO.

[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]

JML, could you please explain why the hardcore title sucked? Very unpredictable it was, bad ass it was.

The reason WWE went down hill was the storylines. Look at Jillian Halls face(b4) and you have your explanation

Link256

I am obviously not JML897, but I am sure he will agree with me on the following points...

• Cookie sheets, shopping carts and trash cans do not equal hardcore and neither does Bob Holly
• It was utterly ridiculous on how almost everyone was the champion, how ridiculously often the belt changed hands and how guys such as Steven Richards were 16 time champ (or was that 21 times) or how Crash Holly was 12 time champ...took away  practically all credibility away from the belt
• The matches became repeative, predicatable and boring

Simply put, the belt was joke, unless RVD was holding the belt, IMHO.

I see your point, but that IMHO was the reason the Hardcore title was so well...hardcore. It was the one title worth killing yourself for even if you only got to hold it for 10 seconds. And please explain to me why Hardcore Holly is so hated around here. IMHO he is a veteran and is pretty cool

And please explain to me why Hardcore Holly is so hated around here. IMHO he is a veteran and is pretty cool

Dark_Hylian8

Well, this is getting off-topic, but I will answer your questions for you...IMHO:

• He is bland and boring in the ring...he is nothing special
• Has been know to be very unprofessional in the ring, ask Rene Dupree :|
• Does not have any charisma as face
• He does not take care of his opponents in the ring and has been know to injury people in the ring
• Simply put, the name...he is far from being hardcore
• He is full of himself and thinks he is something special, when he is far from that...he has big ego

I love the hardcore belt and all the mad tag teams now there are harldy any good ones

I think TNA spells trouble for Vince, WWE is probly just gonna buy TNA and WWE will get even crappier

I think TNA spells trouble for Vince, WWE is probly just gonna buy TNA and WWE will get even crappier

nintendogamer19

i hope not.

HHH: You do know about that new Wrestling show
Vince: WCW, I thought I bought that
HHH: No, the other one that just came out
Vince: UFC
HHH: No, the one with The X divison
Vince: TNA, I see What about it?
HHH: You remeber the last time we had competiton, I hurt myself
Vince: OH YEAH We can't have that, I'll just buy it right now *calls up TNA and tells them to send a representative fro discussion the next day*
HHH: That''ll show Jarret to try and have more title reigns than me.
Vince: What about Flair?
HHH: Who?
Vince: You know the one who drinks the beer
HHH:...I'll just go now
* Steph walks into the room*
HHH: Hey Steph jus leaving no need for you to talk
Steph: Why shouldn't I talk *Blood drips from HHH's ear*
HHH: Let's go

The next day.
Vince: Alright, Bring in the TNA guy so I can FIRE HIM Then buy the company but not in that order
*Samoa Joe walks in and he looks pissed off. AJ walks in afterwards*
Vince: Sit down my good man.Would you care for some tea?
AJ: No thank you
Vince: I was talking to the Heavyweight, Cruiseman
AJ: What is that supposed to mean?
Vince: It means shut your mouth little man, The bigman are talking.
Samoa Joe: I don't agree with that kind of attitude
Vince: Really, well once I buy TNA, YOU'RE FIRED
*Samoa Joe then Powerbombs Vince and gives him the facewash and a muscle buster, Then proceeds to beat vince with a chair for an hour until he gets bored and flies out the window. AJ follows. HHH finds Vince in critcal condition*
HHH: Oh no, He's dead
Vince: No I am not
HHH: Sign these papers so I can get you some help just dab your blood here
Vince: Okay now what
HHH: I own the WWE HA *He pedigrees vince*
Vince: Et tu Paulticus

The END for now

HHH: You do know about that new Wrestling show
Vince: WCW, I thought I bought that
HHH: No, the other one that just came out
Vince: UFC
HHH: No, the one with The X divison
Vince: TNA, I see What about it?
HHH: You remeber the last time we had competiton, I hurt myself
Vince: OH YEAH We can't have that, I'll just buy it right now *calls up TNA and tells them to send a representative fro discussion the next day*
HHH: That''ll show Jarret to try and have more title reigns than me.
Vince: What about Flair?
HHH: Who?
Vince: You know the one who drinks the beer
HHH:...I'll just go now
* Steph walks into the room*
HHH: Hey Steph jus leaving no need for you to talk
Steph: Why shouldn't I talk *Blood drips from HHH's ear*
HHH: Let's go

The next day.
Vince: Alright, Bring in the TNA guy so I can FIRE HIM Then buy the company but not in that order
*Samoa Joe walks in and he looks pissed off. AJ walks in afterwards*
Vince: Sit down my good man.Would you care for some tea?
AJ: No thank you
Vince: I was talking to the Heavyweight, Cruiseman
AJ: What is that supposed to mean?
Vince: It means shut your mouth little man, The bigman are talking.
Samoa Joe: I don't agree with that kind of attitude
Vince: Really, well once I buy TNA, YOU'RE FIRED
*Samoa Joe then Powerbombs Vince and gives him the facewash and a muscle buster, Then proceeds to beat vince with a chair for an hour until he gets bored and flies out the window. AJ follows. HHH finds Vince in critcal condition*
HHH: Oh no, He's dead
Vince: No I am not
HHH: Sign these papers so I can get you some help just dab your blood here
Vince: Okay now what
HHH: I own the WWE HA *He pedigrees vince*
Vince: Et tu Paulticus

The END for now

Kotenks

I think TNA spells trouble for Vince, WWE is probly just gonna buy TNA and WWE will get even crappier

nintendogamer19

[QUOTE="nintendogamer19"]

I think TNA spells trouble for Vince, WWE is probly just gonna buy TNA and WWE will get even crappier

trick_man01

can u reiterate that? i don't understand what u mean.

and yes vince does love competition. cuz then the writers can steal all their ideas.

HHH: You do know about that new Wrestling show
Vince: WCW, I thought I bought that
HHH: No, the other one that just came out
Vince: UFC
HHH: No, the one with The X divison
Vince: TNA, I see What about it?
HHH: You remeber the last time we had competiton, I hurt myself
Vince: OH YEAH We can't have that, I'll just buy it right now *calls up TNA and tells them to send a representative fro discussion the next day*
HHH: That''ll show Jarret to try and have more title reigns than me.
Vince: What about Flair?
HHH: Who?
Vince: You know the one who drinks the beer
HHH:...I'll just go now
* Steph walks into the room*
HHH: Hey Steph jus leaving no need for you to talk
Steph: Why shouldn't I talk *Blood drips from HHH's ear*
HHH: Let's go

The next day.
Vince: Alright, Bring in the TNA guy so I can FIRE HIM Then buy the company but not in that order
*Samoa Joe walks in and he looks pissed off. AJ walks in afterwards*
Vince: Sit down my good man.Would you care for some tea?
AJ: No thank you
Vince: I was talking to the Heavyweight, Cruiseman
AJ: What is that supposed to mean?
Vince: It means shut your mouth little man, The bigman are talking.
Samoa Joe: I don't agree with that kind of attitude
Vince: Really, well once I buy TNA, YOU'RE FIRED
*Samoa Joe then Powerbombs Vince and gives him the facewash and a muscle buster, Then proceeds to beat vince with a chair for an hour until he gets bored and flies out the window. AJ follows. HHH finds Vince in critcal condition*
HHH: Oh no, He's dead
Vince: No I am not
HHH: Sign these papers so I can get you some help just dab your blood here
Vince: Okay now what
HHH: I own the WWE HA *He pedigrees vince*
Vince: Et tu Paulticus

The END for now

Kotenks

:lol: i wished that happened to Vince and his creative team.

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="nintendogamer19"]

I think TNA spells trouble for Vince, WWE is probly just gonna buy TNA and WWE will get even crappier

sephy37

can u reiterate that? i don't understand what u mean.

and yes vince does love competition. cuz then the writers can steal all their ideas.