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#1 Kitanya
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Source: PWTorch.com Newsletter

Juventud Guerrera is currently the subject of backstage heat for his actions in a recent match with Paul London. Despite being told not to do so, Guerrera used Hardcore Holly's "Alabama Slam," which, suffice it to say, did not make the veteran pleased. Holly reportedly told Rey Mysterio, who's considered Juvi's proverbial babysitter, to warn Guerrera about using the move.

Management and Paul London are also upset with Guerrera for performing the 450 splash, especially since he botched the move and landed on London's face.

A final part of his heat with WWE comes from lowering his ring attire to reveal his upper body definition (Guerrera plans it out ahead of time and even oils his chest before matches). Road agents instructed Guerrera to keep his outfit on at all times.
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WWE being an ass about small things. What a suprise! [/sarcasm] Moves are botched, moves can be done by two different people, Hardcore Holly can stop thinking he is the best. He's not.

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#2 shoot_em_up123
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I am not suprised at all.
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#3 superman2412
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I agree with the wwe actually.....I really can't stand juvi right now and he can be released for all I care
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#4 The_Dude14
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Well, its only a matter of time before Juvi shows up on Smackdown with a black eye or arm in a sling, if he's pissed off Holly. I just hope that they let London start doing the SSP again, now that Kidman's gone. London's is poetry in motion.

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#5 Link256
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Well, its only a matter of time before Juvi shows up on Smackdown with a black eye or arm in a sling, if he's pissed off Holly. I just hope that they let London start doing the SSP again, now that Kidman's gone. London's is poetry in motion.

The_Dude14

No Joking either!

The Juice can ask Rene Dupree what happens to people that gets on Bob Holly's bad side.

Anways, Bob Hollys sounds like a big baby, so what if Juvi does the Alabama Slam, it is pretty common move after all. Also, is well-know that wrestles steal moves from other wrestlers, so Bob Holly should not be such a baby about it IMHO.

I agree with you The_Dude14, I would love to see some poetry in motion.

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I agree with the wwe actually.....I really can't stand juvi right now and he can be released for all I caresuperman2412
I don't agree with you at all. SD! has lost a lot of cruiserweight talent recently and Juvi is one hell of a performer. I would hate to see him released before he starts his own single run and splits up from The Mexicools.
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#7 superman2412
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[QUOTE="superman2412"]I agree with the wwe actually.....I really can't stand juvi right now and he can be released for all I carehbk91
I don't agree with you at all. SD! has lost a lot of cruiserweight talent recently and Juvi is one hell of a performer. I would hate to see him released before he starts his own single run and splits up from The Mexicools.

I think he would be better if he was on his own......the mexicool thing just isn't my thing...and I do agree he can put on a show
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#8 Chicago_Nut
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I hate the Mexicools. They act all crazy and stupid. I dont doubt their wrestling abilities, but I hate their attitudes. Jeventud should find HIS OWN finisher or other superstars will get angry.
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#9 wwervin
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I agree with WWE, he needs to stop oiling his chest! lol.

But yeah, Hardcore Holly is just being a jerk. He really ISN'T the best, (surprised?)...no, he's actually one of the WORST superstars on the SD! roster. I really don't like Hardcore Holly at all. 2 people can do the same move, (Frog splash:RVD, Eddie, Stunner: Austin, Vince)

Also, so what if he botched a move....*cough* RVD anyone? *cough*. Accidents happen.

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I hate the Mexicools. They act all crazy and stupid. I dont doubt their wrestling abilities, but I hate their attitudes. Jeventud should find HIS OWN finisher or other superstars will get angry.Chicago_Nut

I think he has his own (or he did in WCW) called the Juvi Driver but I don't know why he is not doing it.

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#11 Chicago_Nut
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Wrestling moves dont belong to ONE superstar...anyone can use any move they want!!! I mean u dont see Bret Hart mad at Chris Benoit for using the sharpshooter. Paul London wasnt the first one ever to do a 450 splash. Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, and Hurricane use chokeslams and they dont fight about it!!! So now... wats with Holly?? Wat is he gonna be mad for every move everyone else does that he does??!!! Grow up Holly!!
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#12 TheGm86
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auh didn't juvi do the 450 every where else. ECW, WCW, AAA.

screw holly and his super spinebuster. maybe they wiil drop him in the FireFest fall 05.

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I agree with the wwe actually.....I really can't stand juvi right now and he can be released for all I caresuperman2412


i agree.
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#14 Link256
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Wrestling moves dont belong to ONE superstar...anyone can use any move they want!!! I mean u dont see Bret Hart mad at Chris Benoit for using the sharpshooter. Paul London wasnt the first one ever to do a 450 splash. Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, and Hurricane use chokeslams and they dont fight about it!!! So now... wats with Holly?? Wat is he gonna be mad for every move everyone else does that he does??!!! Grow up Holly!!Chicago_Nut

I totally agree, not only does Benoit do a Sharpshooter, but The Rock, Owen Hart and Sting all did their version of the move and I do not remember ever hearing Bret Hart complain about it once.

As far Juventud doing Holly's move, plenty of other people have done or do the spine-buter and sidewalk slam.

Including: Booker T, Austin, The Rock, Batista, Ron Simons and I have seen plety of other wrestlers do that move too, it is very common for wrestlers to steal moves or many wrestlers do the same move. Besides, you did not come-up with the move Holly, so you have no reason to complain at all.

Look how many people start doing the spear after Goldberg, I do not remember hearing him complain about it.

Do you hear Saturn complain about wrestlers such as Godfather and John Cena for doing the DVD; NO!!!

Or hear is another one, do you hear Jake "The Snake" Roberts complaining about other wrestler stealling the DDT, NO!!! And shoot, the DDT is one of the most commonly use moves and yet, I have not heard him complain about it once.

So in another words, Quit being a baby Holly, it is very common for wrestlers to steal moves. Besides, Holly is not the fist one to do the side-walk slam/spine-buster anways, so he has no reason to complain what so ever.

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#15 sephy37
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why do you think paul london was upset at juvi? because of the alabama slam or 450? that doesn't seem like the paul london i know.
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Holly sucks. The AS is a spinebuster. And moves can be botched, Kidman was not in trouble for the botched SSP was he?
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#17 sephy37
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Holly sucks. The AS is a spinebuster. And moves can be botched, Kidman was not in trouble for the botched SSP was he?dRehkJY

they made a decent storyline out of that one tho....or was the botch ssp done because of the storyline? (i.e., he botched it on purpose)

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#18 Chicago_Nut
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[QUOTE="dRehkJY"]Holly sucks. The AS is a spinebuster. And moves can be botched, Kidman was not in trouble for the botched SSP was he?sephy37

they made a decent storyline out of that one tho....or was the botch ssp done because of the storyline? (i.e., he botched it on purpose)

I dont care if they botched it or no they made a good storyline of it so it doesnt matter.