Next World Champ; Angle, Orton or Mysterio?

I would love to see Orton win at WM, that would make my day...he can be a great heel and has proven lately that he still is the Legend Killer. I can imagine his first one on one match with Angle, at summerslam...imagine the buildup. None of these men have ever lost a one on one match at summerslam, and they both have given career defining performances on the way. It has come to this...who will walk out with the world heavyweight championship raised high above the air?

i dont really mind who wins it, as long as its not mysterio. i just cant see him being a world champion as his size, and how he gets dominated, then gets a 619 and some high-flying move, then gets the win. it is entertaining, but i would much rather see orton or angle to go home that night with the belt.

orton - he needs to build up his fan support, i think people still remember when he said all those things about eddie, it was about 1 month ago...and the only way to start doing that is, win matches the correct way (no ropes, dq's, weapons) and improve on his mic skills. no, before you flame me, i know they are good...but he says the wrong things..to often because of creative.

angle - he kind of won the title in a weird situation, about 3 months before wm, he wins a battle royal and becomes world champ. the fans certainly dont mind anymore, but since it was at a weird time...if he were to lose it he might seem like a transitional champion. look, he definitely deserves it, beating the undertaker (in one of my fav matches in a while) and mark henry time and time again. if he were to retain at wm, it was kind of a waste of the main event of the biggest stage in the wwe, unless it is some amazing match.

i think a majority of the fans don't want to see orton win, but that could be a good decision in the long run.

I want Orton to win the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania 22, but I wouldn't be surprised if the WWE put the belt on Rey at WM. I like Mysterio but I think Orton would make a better and more credible champ then Rey Mysterio would.

I see Orton picking up the title at WM22. It was leaked that 2006 would be Orton's year and even though he didn't win the Rumble as originally planned, he's in the supposed main-event at WM22, and I very well think he'll walk out with the title around his waist. SD! has been led by face champs consecutively from Cena to Batista and now to Angle. It's time for a heel run and I guess Orton fits in nicely to do the job.

Now I am sure Mysterio won't win the match simply because it will most probably cause heat with some fans who feel that the only reason Mysterio is main-eventing is all due to the passing of Eddie. Had Eddie not passed away, would we have saw Mysterio win the Rumble let alone main-event WM22? I think not and I am sure others would act upon this belief. Plus, I doubt he'd lead the heavyweight division anyways.

As for Angle, well he's had one helluva run but I doubt we'll see him retain at WM22. Tradition is well uh...tradition and I very well see the champ losing in this one once again.

Orton would be my ultimate choice since he has had no decent world title run yet. After making him look like a sissy and the SD!'s before Armaggeddon I though that they had already wrecked a career before it had properly got off the ground. Now, it has proved me wrong and would really like to see him Champ again.

Yet, I wouldn't mind Rey proving everyone wrong but being a former cruiserweight does hold him back.

Since Angle hasn't had a decent title run since 2003 I'd not complain him winning either.

No doubt about it Orton WILL be the new WHC after WM22. Reasons to this is the leak on 2006 being Ortons year like stated above and the fact that he is getting a new vid and music. He will either show up at WM22 with the new vid/theme song or will when he has won it. Orton is the man for the rest of 2006.

Also, its rumored that HHH will be getting a new vid/theme song. I believe after he beats Cena at WM22 (which he will) thats when he will also show his new theme song/vid.

I think Ortons gonna take it. I like Orton, I really do, hes building up the credibility he lost against Taker and is becoming that arrogant cocky heel that he was in 2004 again in this feud. I also wouldnt mind seeing Angle win either, hes just as good and is probly the best well rounded wrestler in the WWE. Rey i've never really been a fan of, it wouldnt be TOO bad seeing him with the strap, just not for too long. Whichever way this match goes, any of the three are 1000 times better than Cena or Trips.

I think Ortons gonna take it. I like Orton, I really do, hes building up the credibility he lost against Taker and is becoming that arrogant cocky heel that he was in 2004 again in this feud. I also wouldnt mind seeing Angle win either, hes just as good and is probly the best well rounded wrestler in the WWE. Rey i've never really been a fan of, it wouldnt be TOO bad seeing him with the strap, just not for too long. Whichever way this match goes, any of the three are 1000 times better than Cena or Trips.

SeriousThreat

Yeah agreed, but Raw has to push Masters or Carlito in my opinion.

I really want to see Angle retain, just so he can keep the strap a little longer. He seems to be the best for it right now.

Orton needs a larger fan base. I'd give him 1-2 more monthes without it first.

Rey Rey, I love the little dude. I would like to see him have a WHC Title run, but with Angle being a good champ and the push for Orton, I doubt to see him win it.

I like Mysterio but I think Orton would make a better and more credible champ then Rey Mysterio would.

MetalDragonKing

:|

Could someone please explain to me how a guy who was the Undertaker's b*tch all throughout the fall, lost cleanly to Benoit a month ago on Smackdown, and has no major wins whatsoever under his belt going into WM is somehow more credible than a guy who won the Royal Rumble, beat Eddie Guerrero (a former champion) countless times, Big Show, Kurt Angle, and even someone the former couldn't beat (HBK)?

Anyway, give Orton his undeserved run and let it fail to the surprise of no one, meanwhile building Rey throughout the Summer and so he can escape the Eddie stigma. Have Orton drop the belt to Rey.

[QUOTE="MetalDragonKing"]

I like Mysterio but I think Orton would make a better and more credible champ then Rey Mysterio would.

_Muta

:|

Could someone please explain to me how a guy who was the Undertaker's b*tch all throughout the fall, lost cleanly to Benoit a month ago on Smackdown, and has no major wins whatsoever under his belt going into WM is somehow more credible than a guy who won the Royal Rumble, beat Eddie Guerrero (a former champion) countless times, Big Show, Kurt Angle, and even someone the former couldn't beat (HBK)?

Anyway, give Orton his undeserved run and let it fail to the surprise of no one, meanwhile building Rey throughout the Summer and so he can escape the Eddie stigma. Have Orton drop the belt to Rey.

And Angle being Cena's ***** is a whole lot better right?trick_man01

Angle didn't get pinned cleanly several times.

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] And Angle being Cena's ***** is a whole lot better right?_Muta

Angle didn't get pinned cleanly several times.

he cleanly pinned Bryan Danielson tho...

JK!!!

trick_man, he's right. Angle outwrestled Cena everytime and put on a hell of a better show than Cena. Angle SHOULD have won every match against Cena, but creative and Vinnie Mac have a hard on for Cena so they gotta build him to be Hogan-ish and pull a win out of his ass at the end after the dreaded 6 moves of doom

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] And Angle being Cena's ***** is a whole lot better right?_Muta

Angle didn't get pinned cleanly several times.

[QUOTE="_Muta"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] And Angle being Cena's ***** is a whole lot better right?trick_man01

Angle didn't get pinned cleanly several times.

ok ur obviously not too smarkish. they put HBK, Angle, and Kane in the EC chamber to make it more legit. no one is gonna order the ppv if it's headlined by Cena vs. Carlito vs. Masters unless there are some fan favorites in it (and at this point, WWE was starting to notice Cena was getting booed heavily).

HBK, Angle, and Kane were basicly eliminated first before the younger guys cuz 1) it gets the last 3 more over 2) HBK and Kane were never gonna get the win anyways, and i'm actually surprised Angle wasn't in their last with Cena and 3) by having them in there, Carltio, Masters, and Cena are getting the rub from the older guys.

and honestly, it was smart for the wwe to eliminate Kane, HBK,  and Angle (well i would have kept Angle in there till the end and HBK until after Carlito or Masters were eliminated) cuz they need to start building a newer generation of stars. they can't rely on Angle, HBK, HHH, Flair, RVD, Benoit, Jericho, etc. forever. but having Carlito, Cena, and Masters in there last backfired on the WWE cuz they opted for a short span between pin falls (but they could have been making time for Edge vs. Cena since i heard that was finally decided on just shortly before the ppv). if Cena/Carlito/Masters would have gone 10 + more minutes and put on a hell of a show say like the IC Ladder matches between Diesel and HBK that helped elevate them from Mid to higher because of the quality of the show stealing match...but Cena, Carlito, and Masters couldn't deliver (not surprised).

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] [QUOTE="_Muta"]

[QUOTE="trick_man01"] And Angle being Cena's ***** is a whole lot better right?sephy37

Angle didn't get pinned cleanly several times.

ok ur obviously not too smarkish. they put HBK, Angle, and Kane in the EC chamber to make it more legit. no one is gonna order the ppv if it's headlined by Cena vs. Carlito vs. Masters unless there are some fan favorites in it (and at this point, WWE was starting to notice Cena was getting booed heavily).

HBK, Angle, and Kane were basicly eliminated first before the younger guys cuz 1) it gets the last 3 more over 2) HBK and Kane were never gonna get the win anyways, and i'm actually surprised Angle wasn't in their last with Cena and 3) by having them in there, Carltio, Masters, and Cena are getting the rub from the older guys.

and honestly, it was smart for the wwe to eliminate Kane, HBK, and Angle (well i would have kept Angle in there till the end and HBK until after Carlito or Masters were eliminated) cuz they need to start building a newer generation of stars. they can't rely on Angle, HBK, HHH, Flair, RVD, Benoit, Jericho, etc. forever. but having Carlito, Cena, and Masters in there last backfired on the WWE cuz they opted for a short span between pin falls (but they could have been making time for Edge vs. Cena since i heard that was finally decided on just shortly before the ppv). if Cena/Carlito/Masters would have gone 10 + more minutes and put on a hell of a show say like the IC Ladder matches between Diesel and HBK that helped elevate them from Mid to higher because of the quality of the show stealing match...but Cena, Carlito, and Masters couldn't deliver (not surprised).

Also, to add on to what sephy37 said... Kurt Angle is crediable as champion simply because a) he is much more establish superstar than Randy Orton and b) people know for fact that Kurt Angle is one of the best workers to step into any wrestling ring... Randy Orton is nowhere nevel of Kurt Angle in the rig.

The fans knew that it was nonsense that Kurt Angle was jobbing to Jonn Cena... and thus... that is why Kurt Angle is crediable world heavyweight champion. That is why he still managed to be crediable champion, despite being eliminated first in the EC match.   

Besides, Kurt Angle had couple of victories over John Cena... and there were several situations in which he beat him to bloody mass and thus... appeared to be very worthy opponent to John Cena. In addition to that... Angle had credibility with recent victories, at the time period, over Shawn Michaels and Eugene.

On the other hand, Randy Orton in his feud with the Undertaker... he only had two victories, in which he had to cheat (and use his father as well). Also, Orton would usually run when the Undertaker would come around and when the two would fight outside of match.... Randy Orton was usually the one who received the shorter end of the stick (to say the least) and thus... was made to look complete and utter weakling/pansy in comparison to the Undertaker.

Now... do you see the difference between Angle and Orton?

Also, to add on to what sephy37 said... Kurt Angle is crediable as champion simply because a) he is much more establish superstar than Randy Orton and b) people know for fact that Kurt Angle is one of the best workers to step into any wrestling ring... Randy Orton is nowhere nevel of Kurt Angle in the rig.

The fans knew that it was nonsense that Kurt Angle was jobbing to Jonn Cena... and thus... that is why Kurt Angle is crediable world heavyweight champion. That is why he still managed to be crediable champion, despite being eliminated first in the EC match.

Besides, Kurt Angle had couple of victories over John Cena... and there were several situations in which he beat him to bloody mass and thus... appeared to be very worthy opponent to John Cena. In addition to that... Angle had credibility with recent victories, at the time period, over Shawn Michaels and Eugene.

On the other hand, Randy Orton in his feud with the Undertaker... he only had two victories, in which he had to cheat (and use his father as well). Also, Orton would usually run when the Undertaker would come around and when the two would fight outside of match.... Randy Orton was usually the one who received the shorter end of the stick (to say the least) and thus... was made to look complete and utter weakling/pansy in comparison to the Undertaker.

Now... do you see the difference between Angle and Orton?

Link256

put on a hell of a show say like the IC Ladder matches between Diesel and HBK that helped elevate them from Mid to higher because of the quality of the show stealing match.sephy37

Just to step in here in the Angle vs Orton comparison.  There are several major differences in Angle-Cena and Orton-Taker and where Orton is right now.  Even though Angle's record against Cena is something along the line of 0-97, he was still taken seriously.  Angle always went into the matches as the favorite to win every time.  And despite the WWE's best efforts, Angle was more often than not getting cheered in the matches because the fans respected him more.  His feud with Cena did not ruin Angle's credibilty despite the losses.  Angle was still an Olympic Gold medalist, he was still a guy that could concievably win the title at any time.

Meanwhile, Taker destroyed Randy Orton's credibility.  What made Orton a great heel was that he was so cocky and arrogant and what made you hate him more was that he backed it up.  He beat Cactus Jack at his own game, he spit in the face of and RKO'ed several beloved legends, every legend he came across... until he met the Undertaker.  Not only did Taker beat him at Wrestlemania despite several attempts at cheating.  He didn't stop there, though.  Not only did Taker beat Orton a ridiculous percentage of the time, but he made Orton look like a pansy while he was at it.  Taker, at one point, made Orton cry... he made Orton cry with his magic powers and haunted him in ways that would make the Ultimate Warrior sue on the way to beating Orton in the blow-off to their feud... again.  After this Orton got subbed into a mid-card feud and no one objected, because it was where he belonged.

However, the most important aspect of the difference between Angle and Orton is crowd reactions and perceptions.  Angle was, has and is always drawing some type of response from the crowd whenever he comes out.  Whether its "You suck," "Angle Sucks," or "Lets Go Angle," crowds were and are responsive to Angle's matches.  He was always drawing one of the loudest reactions of the night.  Meanwhile, even with Smackdown's sound sweetener, Orton's reactions are less than impressive.  Orton's heat was bad enough to where WWE had him insult Eddie Guerrero to get him heat.  Well, they had Angle insult the troops.  True, but that was in an attempt to get the fans not to cheer Angle, as opposed to actually get the audience to react.

[QUOTE="sephy37"] put on a hell of a show say like the IC Ladder matches between Diesel and HBK that helped elevate them from Mid to higher because of the quality of the show stealing match.The_Dude14

oops :S. i meant razor ramon