Official Raw Discussion Thread: 19th September 2005

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Major Announcement
September 19, 2005


Monday Night RAW comes to you just 24 hours after the Unforgiven pay-per-view, and Mr. McMahon will have a major announcement tonight.

Last night at Unforgiven, Kurt Angle was able to defeat John Cena. Angle, however, did not walk out as the WWE Champion, as his victory came via disqualification. What will Angle have in store for Cena, one night after coming so close to winning the WWE Championship? Watch Monday Night RAW to find out.

History was made last night when Ric Flair captured the Intercontinental Championship from Carlito. After the match, Flair was seen partying until he dropped. Carlito will get a shot to regain the gold tonight on RAW in a huge rematch. Will all of Flair's excessive partying have an effect on the outcome?

Another major championship changed hands at Unforgiven when Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch defeated The Hurricane & Rosey for the World Tag Team Championship. Be sure to catch Day One of Cade & Murdoch's reign on top of the tag team mountain Monday night on RAW.

All this and more tonight on RAW (Spike TV, 9/8 CT).

Check back here throughout the day as more RAW matches and information is announced

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#2 Chicago_Nut
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Ill sticky this, since RAW is today. If someone disagrees with me, Ill seriously die.
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#3 dRehkJY
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Thanks Chicago (Don't know real name lol). Any thoughts on what it could be? I am hoping that it is near the start
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#4 Chicago_Nut
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I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.
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#5 sephy37
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Ill sticky this, since RAW is today. If someone disagrees with me, Ill seriously die.Chicago_Nut

don't sticky this! i disagree with you! blue is better than green! PICKLES!!!!!!

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I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.Chicago_Nut


Why do I have a feeling that Ironman, Hell in a cell or First Blood will be the match types?
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[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.dRehkJY


Why do I have a feeling that Ironman, Hell in a cell or First Blood will be the match types?

first blood is one of the worst match gimmicks ever. right up there with bullrope and inferno.

edit: hell in a cell is too played out these days. let's NOT have another hell in a cell ok? i'm sick of them.

cena couldn't handle an ironman match. come on...60 minutes...john cena...exactly

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[QUOTE="dRehkJY"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.sephy37



Why do I have a feeling that Ironman, Hell in a cell or First Blood will be the match types?

first blood is one of the worst match gimmicks ever. right up there with bullrope and inferno.

Mine is the worst LOL. Mine is a cage of hell match where you go outside of the cage and grab ladders to grab the belt thats hanging from the ring. Its a combo of a Ladder and Cage match, pretty gimmicky dont ya think?
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[QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="dRehkJY"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.Chicago_Nut



Why do I have a feeling that Ironman, Hell in a cell or First Blood will be the match types?

first blood is one of the worst match gimmicks ever. right up there with bullrope and inferno.

Mine is the worst LOL. Mine is a cage of hell match where you go outside of the cage and grab ladders to grab the belt thats hanging from the ring. Its a combo of a Ladder and Cage match, pretty gimmicky dont ya think?

not as gimmicky as having DAVID ARQUETTE compete in a triple cage match.

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not as gimmicky as having DAVID ARQUETTE compete in a triple cage match. sephy37

does a day go by where we don't mention david arquette?

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#11 Chicago_Nut
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[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"][QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="dRehkJY"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.sephy37



Why do I have a feeling that Ironman, Hell in a cell or First Blood will be the match types?

first blood is one of the worst match gimmicks ever. right up there with bullrope and inferno.

Mine is the worst LOL. Mine is a cage of hell match where you go outside of the cage and grab ladders to grab the belt thats hanging from the ring. Its a combo of a Ladder and Cage match, pretty gimmicky dont ya think?

not as gimmicky as having DAVID ARQUETTE compete in a triple cage match.

Thats not as gimmicky as having JAY LENO compete in a tag team match. *cough*WCW sucked*cough*
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[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"][QUOTE="sephy37"]

[QUOTE="dRehkJY"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.Chicago_Nut



Why do I have a feeling that Ironman, Hell in a cell or First Blood will be the match types?

first blood is one of the worst match gimmicks ever. right up there with bullrope and inferno.

Mine is the worst LOL. Mine is a cage of hell match where you go outside of the cage and grab ladders to grab the belt thats hanging from the ring. Its a combo of a Ladder and Cage match, pretty gimmicky dont ya think?

not as gimmicky as having DAVID ARQUETTE compete in a triple cage match.

Thats not as gimmicky as having JAY LENO compete in a tag team match. *cough*WCW sucked*cough*



That aint as Gimmicky as having a rapper who cannot rap become WWE champ
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Sorry I done this Mena but there is a major announcement

Major AnnouncementSeptember 19, 2005


Monday Night RAW comes to you just 24 hours after the Unforgiven pay-per-view, and Mr. McMahon will have a major announcement tonight.

Announcement will probably be

  1. Taboo Tuesday
  2. Cena/Angle situation
  3. DS 2005 P 2
dRehkJY


How about the announcement will be that they are getting rid of Smackdown, combining the rosters and making Raw three hours long starting with the first show on USA. Then they could use the money they save from not having to produce Smackdown anymore and start hiring some decent writers and get the storylines back to when they were good. :D
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WTF! there are only 12 months in a year... Armagedon is here Repent fools

Cena winning by DQ...Who's up for Making cena tap out in SD vs. Raw anyone?

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Okay I'll update the promo pictures...

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Okay I'll update the promo pictures...

hbk91


I knew I forgot something
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WTF! there are only 12 months in a year... Armagedon is here Repent fools

Cena winning by DQ...Who's up for Making cena tap out in SD vs. Raw anyone?

Kotenks


Britian Rules all. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo Watching UNforgiven replay and Flair just hit the top rope move
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[QUOTE="dRehkJY"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.sephy37



Why do I have a feeling that Ironman, Hell in a cell or First Blood will be the match types?

first blood is one of the worst match gimmicks ever. right up there with bullrope and inferno.

edit: hell in a cell is too played out these days. let's NOT have another hell in a cell ok? i'm sick of them.

cena couldn't handle an ironman match. come on...60 minutes...john cena...exactly

Sure he could, he'd get his ass kicked for 59 minutes, but kick out of everything, then start throwing his slow ass punches, an Warrior shoulderblock, taunt a little, hit the spin-out side slam, 5 Knuckle Shuffle, pump up his shoes, F-U 1,2,3, and pose while time expires and we have an "emotional" comeback victory. Cena wins 1-0.

Anywho, my guess is Vince's announcement will probably be either the return of Taboo Tuesday or hyping up the "Night of Champions" 3 hour Raw USA (re)debut.

The most interesting part of Raw ought to be how WWE screws Matt Hardy over, since he actually looked good last night.

I'm actually looking forward to Raw, which, sadly, will probably guarantee disappointment for all.

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5 bucks says the announcement is either going to be about WWE's move to the USA network, Triple H, or a combination of the two.
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#20 hbk91
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5 bucks says the announcement is either going to be about WWE's move to the USA network, Triple H, or a combination of the two.JML897
I reckon it will be about the move to the USA network.
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I resent that The Dude 14

Cena would have been losing 10-0 2 minutes to go then clothesline, clothesline, Shoulderblock,Sitout powerbowb, 5 knuckleshuffle, FU then 123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123, Cena retains the title with the greatest comeback ever

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I resent that The Dude 14

Cena would have been losing 10-0 2 minutes to go then clothesline, clothesline, Shoulderblock,Sitout powerbowb, 5 knuckleshuffle, FU then 123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123,123, Cena retains the title with the greatest comeback ever

Kotenks


And it would have to be in a handicap match.
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ROTFL a handicap Ironman match

I know here's the match

5 on 1 tag handicap ironman lumberjack match , Cena only wins by elimanting all and only by pin, can be DQ.
Others; ECW rules, NO DQ, can make cena tap or otherwise. No tagging needed to switch out

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I bet hes gonna say that Taboo Tuesday is back with Angle vs Cena as the main event and he will probably pick three match types that we vote on.Chicago_Nut

I doubt it, Taboo Tuesday isn't until November.
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#25 JML897
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#26 The_Dude14
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So, a champion cannot be stripped of the title for laying his hands on a GM. I guess last year, when Cena was stripped of the US Title for touching then GM Angle, didn't actually happen.
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JML897
I'm scared, too.
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If Angle got DQed then you know Vince would have given his bed buddy a rematch, but somehow Angle doesn't. Angle should just sleep with Stephanie again and get a title shot.
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#29 JML897
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And there I was, thinking this show might not suck.
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And there I was, thinking this show might not suck.JML897

Doing homework was more fun than watching RAW.
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#31 Archangel3371
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So far this has been a pretty boring RAW. The only good things was seeing Vince back on and Trish. Carlito vs. Ric Flair is about to start and I can't say I'm all that hyped to see it. *sigh* oh well October 3rd is almost here thank god.
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#32 JML897
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I know it's been said before, but the TNA commercial was the most exciting part of Raw.
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I know it's been said before, but the TNA commercial was the most exciting part of Raw.JML897


of course it was.
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#34 Archangel3371
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Wow this Flair/Carlito match has suprised me both in how good it is and how long it is. It's still going, ooops was going. Ric retains the championship with a figure four leg-lock and a little leverage from the ropes :lol: Really good match though.
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#35 The_Dude14
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Holy ****! Not only did Cena finally manage to A. appear on screen without annoying me, B. Cut a promo without annoying me, but he actually managed to entertain me and make me laugh. That was a highly entertaining little segment.
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Sweet Dream team Promo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#37 JML897
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Holy ****! Not only did Cena finally manage to A. appear on screen without annoying me, B. Cut a promo without annoying me, but he actually managed to entertain me and make me laugh. That was a highly entertaining little segment.The_Dude14


I guess I wasn't alone in thinking that. Maybe he needs to be paired with Grisham more.
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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]Holy ****! Not only did Cena finally manage to A. appear on screen without annoying me, B. Cut a promo without annoying me, but he actually managed to entertain me and make me laugh. That was a highly entertaining little segment.JML897


I guess I wasn't alone in thinking that. Maybe he needs to be paired with Grisham more.

No he has to be carried by Shawn and the big show to make a good promo :lol:

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Anyway that was cool iam starting to like this carlito just a little Maters Meh ......... hes like a wannabe Kurt Hening
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#40 JML897
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Anyway that was cool iam starting to like this carlito just a little Maters Meh ......... hes like a wannabe Kurt HeningNorg


No, Masters is more like a wannabe Lex Luger. With any luck, he'll overdose on drugs soon.
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[QUOTE="Norg"]Anyway that was cool iam starting to like this carlito just a little Maters Meh ......... hes like a wannabe Kurt HeningJML897


No, Masters is more like a wannabe Lex Luger. With any luck, he'll overdose on drugs soon.

Yea your right like lex but with the Perfect char

MAIN EVENT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#42 Norg
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This was a pretty good show it showed me one thing the wwe locker room and wrestlers have unity and high spirit's
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#43 Archangel3371
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Well a very good main event finishes off a mediocre episode of RAW that contained a few good moments.

The good moments being Vince showing up, Trish Stratus, Carlito/Flair match, and Cena promo.

I'm really glad the main event had a decent amount of time since I was worried it would have ended up one of those quick everyone in the ring chaos kinda things. The ending of the match was funny too with Show pinning Edge while Cena, Matt, and Shawn piling up on top. :lol:

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A highly, highly entertaining main event to cap off one of the few Raw's recently I've genuinely enjoyed. They did a good job of starting up the hype for the Homecoming, but not sacrificing this show to do it. The Tomko squash and women's match were nothing special, but kept short. Murdoch vs the Hurricane was fairly decent, Hurricane did a good job selling his injury and doing his best. Murdoch still isn't looking too promising, though. Flair vs Carlito was pretty boring, IMO, but you know what, I'll take boring WRESTLING over whatever else they could have done with it. John Cena even works his way into the +'s of this Raw. His promo with his team was highly entertaining and showed me a John Cena I can support. He wasn't trying to be the Rock or Stone Cold, he seemed like he was really being John Cena and it clicked. Hopefully we see more of this from Cena.

I really enjoyed this Raw and Shelton Benjamin didn't even appear. Hopefully, this is a turning point for Monday nights, and not an exception.

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this thread flopped. but i just saw the TNA commercial and the was complete RAW ownage. Also I'm glad to see Matt Hardy in the main event.
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Cena vs Bischoff :| Why do I smell a GM title run? And :D at Michaels. "And we're out". Later, he sat on Hardy instead of Body Splashing him like everyone else done
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I just read the results and this show is one not to miss. I didn't tape it last night so I'll have to watch it on Wednesday. The main event seemed great. :D
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I wonder what's gonna happen with the money in the bank match, maybe if one of losses they will go to Smackdown, I cant see Edge losing his Title shot, so maybe Hardy will go to Smackdown
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#49 hbk91
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The following is what we know so far for the big WWE RAW return to USA Network in two weeks, October 3rd, which will be a special three-hour live presentation:

WWE Championship:
-John Cena (c) vs. Eric Bischoff

Money In The Bank:
(Ladder Match)
-Edge vs. Matt Hardy

WWE legends returning live on the show: Mr. McMahon, Hulk Hogan, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Triple H, Mick Foley, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Harley Race, "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan, Hillbilly Jim, "Superstar" Billy Graham, "Superfly" Jimmy Snuka, Greg "The Hammer" Valentine, The Iron Sheik, Jimmy Hart, "Chief" Jay Strongbow, Nikolai Volkoff, Koko B. Ware, Fabulous Moolah, and Mae Young.

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#50 coolbmann
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If the Rock isn't going to come back for the homecoming Oct. 3, maybe he should just stay away for good. You would think that would be a good time to make an appearance, but I did not see his name mentioned at all.