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#1 wwervin
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Ok let's talk about the new game and hype it up. What would you guys like to see added to this game from last year's version?
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#2 wwervin
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Not a lot of feedback here....I'll start.

I for one would like to see some new match types. I'm hoping Buried Alive is finally put in. Also hoping Casket match makes its comeback.

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#3 nellyg619
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Not a lot of feedback here....I'll start.

I for one would like to see some new match types. I'm hoping Buried Alive is finally put in. Also hoping Casket match makes its comeback.

wwervin

To be honest I hope there is better storylines(more of them as well), updated move sets(Batista emm), better online and more match types. I can't wait for the game though

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#4 hbk91
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My wish list:

  • Updated roster including legends and divas
  • New match types like the Texas Bull Rope Match/Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match..etc
  • Longer story mode with more voice overs
  • Realistic graphics - not obvious animations..etc
  • Harder A.I.
  • Better online mode - played online around a friends house. More matches and titles on the line.
  • New modes and new challenge mode.
  • Superstar unlockables along with extras.
  • Smooth, flowing, connecting wrestling attacks/defenses not as fast but no so slow.
  • Updated match types like elimintion chamber steel devistating moves and ladder match tug of wars.
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#5 nellyg619
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My wish list:

  • Updated roster including legends and divas
  • New match types like the Texas Bull Rope Match/Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match..etc
  • Longer story mode with more voice overs
  • Realistic graphics - not obvious animations..etc
  • Harder A.I.
  • Better online mode - played online around a friends house. More matches and titles on the line.
  • New modes and new challenge mode.
  • Superstar unlockables along with extras.
  • Smooth, flowing, connecting wrestling attacks/defenses not as fast but no so slow.
  • Updated match types like elimintion chamber steel devistating moves and ladder match tug of wars.

hbk91

I also wish the A.I. was alot harder. I put the difficulty on Legend but it's still easy. I also wish every move cud be countered in different ways. Just think Rey countering a Spinebuster and Big Show countering a Spinebuster. U see what I mean

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#6 hbk91
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[QUOTE="hbk91"]

My wish list:

  • Updated roster including legends and divas
  • New match types like the Texas Bull Rope Match/Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match..etc
  • Longer story mode with more voice overs
  • Realistic graphics - not obvious animations..etc
  • Harder A.I.
  • Better online mode - played online around a friends house. More matches and titles on the line.
  • New modes and new challenge mode.
  • Superstar unlockables along with extras.
  • Smooth, flowing, connecting wrestling attacks/defenses not as fast but no so slow.
  • Updated match types like elimintion chamber steel devistating moves and ladder match tug of wars.

nellyg619

I also wish the A.I. was alot harder. I put the difficulty on Legend but it's still easy. I also wish every move cud be countered in different ways. Just think Rey countering a Spinebuster and Big Show countering a Spinebuster. U see what I mean

Rey can still do the hurracanrana onto the Big Show. I hope the weight system is properly accurate.

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#7 nellyg619
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[QUOTE="nellyg619"][QUOTE="hbk91"]

My wish list:

  • Updated roster including legends and divas
  • New match types like the Texas Bull Rope Match/Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match..etc
  • Longer story mode with more voice overs
  • Realistic graphics - not obvious animations..etc
  • Harder A.I.
  • Better online mode - played online around a friends house. More matches and titles on the line.
  • New modes and new challenge mode.
  • Superstar unlockables along with extras.
  • Smooth, flowing, connecting wrestling attacks/defenses not as fast but no so slow.
  • Updated match types like elimintion chamber steel devistating moves and ladder match tug of wars.

hbk91

I also wish the A.I. was alot harder. I put the difficulty on Legend but it's still easy. I also wish every move cud be countered in different ways. Just think Rey countering a Spinebuster and Big Show countering a Spinebuster. U see what I mean

Rey can still do the hurracanrana onto the Big Show. I hope the weight system is properly accurate.

Yeh but he can't reverse a move into the hurracanrana

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#8 Jackov
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WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2 (PS2) in my opinion, defitely needs a major upgrade in the gameplay. In the first SD! vs. RAW, the meters (Spank & Chop) did not help the flow of a match, so I hope that gets taken out in this game.

Also, countering was a major issue with the last game too. SD!: HCTP had a great counter system, but in SD! vs. RAW, it just felt as if pressing the counter buttons was pointless since most of the time it would never react. It seemed as if Yuke's was focused more on everything but the counter system. I hope that becomes one of the main focuses on this year's game.

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#9 shoot_em_up123
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My wish list:

  • Updated roster including legends and divas
  • New match types like the Texas Bull Rope Match/Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match..etc
  • Longer story mode with more voice overs
  • Realistic graphics - not obvious animations..etc
  • Harder A.I.
  • Better online mode - played online around a friends house. More matches and titles on the line.
  • New modes and new challenge mode.
  • Superstar unlockables along with extras.
  • Smooth, flowing, connecting wrestling attacks/defenses not as fast but no so slow.
  • Updated match types like elimintion chamber steel devistating moves and ladder match tug of wars.

hbk91

yeah, those are awesome ideas and exactly what I want.

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#10 raydeness
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Make the game a dual layered so eliminates the disk space issue, which means more wrestler, longer storyline, and more match type... the bottom line is more stuffs.. and if the space still isn't enough, we can download wrestler from thq website, so no more crappy CAW...
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#11 MysticKotenks
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Make a better ratings system. in hCTP HHH=90 HBK = 80 Svr HBK=88 hHH= 94 WTF they should be equal

Also everyone John cena will be god in this game 93 probably Better legends

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#12 hbk91
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Make a better ratings system. in hCTP HHH=90 HBK = 80 Svr HBK=88 hHH= 94 WTF they should be equal

Also everyone John cena will be god in this game 93 probably Better legends

MysticKotenks

Cena = 84

HHH = 87

HBK = 94

Angle = 94

Taker = 90

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#13 MysticKotenks
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Cena = 87

HHH = 92

HBK = 94

Angle = 91

Taker = 93

Shelton= 85

bastia = 87

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#14 wwervin
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In HCTP you could play through season and fix the stats tho. That made season fun, trying to level up someone. I don't mind the stats at all. What I want to see right now the most is which new match they're gonna add. Seems like they give us one or two every year. What's it gonna be this year.....
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#15 XtremeLegend2
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better and bigger roster
better and more complexed storylines
more new matches
Improved A.I
more moves

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#16 KevyR
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Pretty much what everyone said should be on the next installment of SVR2!
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#17 MysticKotenks
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I forgot to say put in create an entrance, maybe they could have a mike that records music. and Create a Player needs more weird stuff (spiderman mask and costume) :)
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#18 raydeness
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A complete statistic tracking of all the champion, each wrestler win lose draw stats, something like the HCTP, able to interfere in any match and the person that u attacked during that interference will actually fued with u the next night.
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#19 wwervin
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bump

Recently I put up info about GameStop having it up for pre-orders, what do you guys think about that? Is anyone here pre-ordering?

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bump

Recently I put up info about GameStop having it up for pre-orders, what do you guys think about that? Is anyone here pre-ordering?

wwervin

Despite the inevitability that I will purchase the game, I'm going to need some info and a final roster before even considering it.

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#21 davidsamta
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My wish list:

  • Updated roster including legends and divas
  • New match types like the Texas Bull Rope Match/Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match..etc
  • Longer story mode with more voice overs
  • Realistic graphics - not obvious animations..etc
  • Harder A.I.
  • Better online mode - played online around a friends house. More matches and titles on the line.
  • New modes and new challenge mode.
  • Superstar unlockables along with extras.
  • Smooth, flowing, connecting wrestling attacks/defenses not as fast but no so slow.
  • Updated match types like elimintion chamber steel devistating moves and ladder match tug of wars.

hbk91

That would be kool. The game will live up to its expectations I think.

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#22 wwervin
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I'd probably wait to see a few screenshots and then hear what new features there will be. If I'm still psyched about the game I'll pre-order.
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#23 Darth_Homer
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Here are my ideas:

Classic Attires- by unlocking these for certain characters (lets say for instance, Christian), not only will they look like what they did in a certain era (in this case, Christians classic attire is his E+C attire). But instead of coming out into the ring looking like it, the person with the classic attire will have the authentic intro from that era! Music, Moves, Tron and all! Which gives it perfect excuse to use classic themes such as the D-X theme (having that back in a game would be awesome).

Classic Match Mode: While some of SvR's challenges were based on classic matches, I think having a mode dedicated to it would be excellent. Heres how it would work, the mode would include matches from all promotions that the WWE own (like ECW, WCW etc.) and all eras (late 80's onwards). To complete a match in this mode, you'll either need to perform a special move (in the case of Hogan bodyslamming Andre or Taker Chokeslamming Mankind off the cell), or win a match (i.e the Toronto screwjob, what would happen if Bret won fairly?) But the best part is that the matches would take place in the arena it actually took place at (example, Bret vs HBK would be at the '97 Survivor Series arena).

An Arcade mode of sorts: With this mode, you would pick a title to go for (any title), and then, you'd pick a superstar on the same show the title is on. If you win the title, you get a little movie of the superstars highlights, done to their theme. By winning the belts on both shows, you can unlock a title where superstars from both shows can win.

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#24 wwervin
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I like your ideas.
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#25 shoot_em_up123
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I like your ideas.wwervin

yeah, me too man.

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#26 davidsamta
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i will preorder when you get special freebies with the deal. did that with svr and got the eddie guerrero story dvd for free and traded it in for a tenner.

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#27 wwervin
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The freebie thing is a good idea...

Can't wait for the first few screenshots.

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#28 Darth_Homer
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The only deal we got with SvR was get Summerslam 2003 free when you buy the game...

Anyway, I've got some more ideas...

*The Bottom Titantrons: THEY NEED THIS IN! In case you don't know what I'm talking about, you know where a superstar walks out, and behind them is a screen that has another movie (when theres a match going on, it'll show the logo of the show, and this is shown all the time in the games). Man, it'd be really sweet to see it done in this game...

*Unlockable Ideas: Instead of just buying the legends, how about actually unlocking them in season mode? If they include Hogan, I could see the match from Backlash 2005 being done (if they bother to include Hassan and Daivari). By winning this match, you unlock Hogan. Also, have other non-wrestlers be unlockables, such as the commentators, some of the divas etc.

*Include the Classic Raw and Smackdown Arenas: This is just a personal thing, and it speaks for itself. If they included the old Raw (Attitude Era) and Smackdown themes to be used to create wrestlers (when I mean Smackdown, I mean 2000-2001), it'd be even better. Hell, having the old Raw arena would be awesome, same with the theme.

*Arena Editing: If you've played WWF Attitude, you'd know what this is.What this is, essentially, you can edit the stage lights, the rope colour, the ring mats, the ring curtains etc. It'd be really cool to see this...and it'd make a great Creation mode...

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#29 nellyg619
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The only deal we got with SvR was get Summerslam 2003 free when you buy the game...

Anyway, I've got some more ideas...

*The Bottom Titantrons: THEY NEED THIS IN! In case you don't know what I'm talking about, you know where a superstar walks out, and behind them is a screen that has another movie (when theres a match going on, it'll show the logo of the show, and this is shown all the time in the games). Man, it'd be really sweet to see it done in this game...

*Unlockable Ideas: Instead of just buying the legends, how about actually unlocking them in season mode? If they include Hogan, I could see the match from Backlash 2005 being done (if they bother to include Hassan and Daivari). By winning this match, you unlock Hogan. Also, have other non-wrestlers be unlockables, such as the commentators, some of the divas etc.

*Include the Classic Raw and Smackdown Arenas: This is just a personal thing, and it speaks for itself. If they included the old Raw (Attitude Era) and Smackdown themes to be used to create wrestlers (when I mean Smackdown, I mean 2000-2001), it'd be even better. Hell, having the old Raw arena would be awesome, same with the theme.

*Arena Editing: If you've played WWF Attitude, you'd know what this is.What this is, essentially, you can edit the stage lights, the rope colour, the ring mats, the ring curtains etc. It'd be really cool to see this...and it'd make a great Creation mode...

Darth_Homer

I remember the Arena editing. That was a good idea

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#30 MysticKotenks
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Also have weapons stay forever like before
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#31 The_Dude14
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The Dude's wish list:

  • I'd like to see big time improvements to Cage, Hell in a Cell, and Elimination Chamber matches.
  • I'd also like to see new Table physics, so it reacts to where you break it.
  • No more disappearing weapons and drop the three hit limit.
  • Better weight detection and weight detection counters (No more Big Show countering a choke toss with a Hurricanrana, but a power move)
  • More Counters
  • No more quick submissions
  • Wrestler Specific Special Counters (have certain wrestlers be able to pull a counter-Special move, when the Smackdown meter is filled, such as, RVD countering a Chair shot with the Van Daminator, Angle and Benoit able to lock in their submissions)
  • More and better submission counters, (Imagine having a Submission battle, countering and recountering for a while)
  • Multiple outfits, or possibly Edit-attire
  • Better Roster (I want everyone, London, Akio,hell, I even want Snitzky and Heidenreich)
  • Keep improving legends roster
  • Marty Jannetty
  • A rating system for Create-a-PPV, doesn't even have to be a good one, but just have some sort of rating system will keep me busy for months
  • Better Create-A-Belt: Be able to assign champions, make Tag Titles, and keep track of champions
  • Ability to switch rosters
  • More control over match-types (Like give the ability to make any match elimination style)
  • Better Crowd Chant system (Different chants for for faces and heels (have a pro-Cena and anti-Cena chant for each wrestler) and have the crowd react to in-ring action (High-risk moves, nice combinations, or countering get chants, but do the same thing and crowds will boo.) Acclaim's WWF and ECW games have this down pat.
  • Improve the storymode please.
  • More arenas (like Hammerstien Ballroom, and arenas like in Wrestlemania XXI, maybe a few classic arenas from older PPVs)
  • Tighten up strikes and collision detection.
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    #32 XtremeLegend2
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    wow what a hell of a wish list, everything in there is great lets just hope some if not all of those happens
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    #33 hbk91
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    I really want to see some info now. It is June and the game is supposedly coming out late October to mid November.
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    #34 theoryc2
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    I really want to see some info now. It is June and the game is supposedly coming out late October to mid November.hbk91

    yeah and it wasnt even at E3

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    #35 wwervin
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    No info out yet. Don't worry I'll be on it when it does. And also, in one of my info updates I gave you the link from GameStop, apparently the game comes out October 3rd, not late October - mid November. I hope it stays that way though, they'll probably delay it.
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    #36 The_Dude14
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    wow what a hell of a wish list, everything in there is great lets just hope some if not all of those happensXtremeLegend2

    Yeah, my wish list asks for a lot, but 90% of what I'm asking has been seen in wrestling games before, so its not inconcievable to put those elements together and make a great wrestling game.

    In the end, I will be happy if I feel THQ and Yukes put 100% effort into this a complete game. With Smackdown vs Raw, I didn't feel that. It seemed that they stopped short on just about everything, from online to the create modes, and the game felt more like a transition, rather than a complete game. It felt kind of like Just Bring It, in the sense of being a transition, rather than complete.

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    #37 KevyR
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    I already posted this on one of the thread, if someone didn't catch it, but the release date, according to Gamestop, is on October 3, 2005 in the U.S. but I dunno about others. I don't really think it will be out by October since every year, they always puts it on hold until November, which will be most likely the date of the release for SVR2!
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    #38 The_Dude14
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    I wonder/hope that ECW One Night Stand will be incorporated in SVR 2, some how. At the very least, I hope that they get the Hammerstein Ballroom in the game, as that would become my go-to arena and maybe a few ECW wrestlers, like Rhyno, Dreamer, or Sabu. However, since, I would like it, it probably won't happen.
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    #39 keiblerfan69
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    ya they need to allow u to go through the crowd and climb stuff. and all the stuff u said Dude. Seriously this is the last Smackdown game on PS2 and they really need to make it a must own for everyone game. It should top HCTP. And if they try to give us that half ass storyline again im gonna be pissed and im sure everyone else will be also.
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    #40 hbk91
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    I wonder/hope that ECW One Night Stand will be incorporated in SVR 2, some how. At the very least, I hope that they get the Hammerstein Ballroom in the game, as that would become my go-to arena and maybe a few ECW wrestlers, like Rhyno, Dreamer, or Sabu. However, since, I would like it, it probably won't happen.The_Dude14

    Or they could just make an ECW game...

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    #41 nellyg619
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    [QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I wonder/hope that ECW One Night Stand will be incorporated in SVR 2, some how. At the very least, I hope that they get the Hammerstein Ballroom in the game, as that would become my go-to arena and maybe a few ECW wrestlers, like Rhyno, Dreamer, or Sabu. However, since, I would like it, it probably won't happen.hbk91

    Or they could just make an ECW game...

    Check out the SD vs. Raw info thread

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    #42 mja2k3
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    I just hope this game doesn't turn out to be like wrestlemania. I was really pissed off about how that game turned out.

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    #43 hbk91
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    I just hope this game doesn't turn out to be like wrestlemania. I was really pissed off about how that game turned out.

    mja2k3

    It won't trust me. All the previous SD! games for the PS2 have had a similar connection. Fast, connecting, exciting and entertaining all through. I doubt this will be a disappointment seeing how it is the last sequel before the PS3 versions get released.

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    #44 MysticKotenks
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    John Cena's new song better be in and eugene.

    Also they better have the draft during the story mode. And season should be multiplayer. Get rid of the bar for rumble it's &@7

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    #45 SwimPUNK
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    I forgot to say put in create an entrance, maybe they could have a mike that records music. and Create a Player needs more weird stuff (spiderman mask and costume) :)MysticKotenks

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    #46 MysticKotenks
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    [QUOTE="MysticKotenks"]I forgot to say put in create an entrance, maybe they could have a mike that records music. and Create a Player needs more weird stuff (spiderman mask and costume) :)SwimPUNK

    i hate you...and you know why i hate you.

    No I don't :cries:

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    #47 jjj13
    Member since 2005 • 2399 Posts

    i want to see one thing.buried alive match.

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    #48 Darth_Homer
    Member since 2004 • 5779 Posts

    Yeah...the Dude is right about the chanting...Acclaims later WWF/ECW games do it right. Hell, the whole atmosphere of the matches in Acclaims later WWF/ECW games was near perfect, there was no background music playing, just the chants and the excellent commentary...it really felt like you were watching one of the shows...

    I would also love to see the recent ECW storyline in the season mode...that was just plain awesome...especially the RAW and Smackdown beforehand....

    Here are some other random additions I'd like to see:

    *Tag Team Finishers: By you and your partner giving up one Finisher Icon each (and in some cases, have the correct weapon in), you could perform a tag team finisher. This would allow the Conchairito to be included, and it'd make the 3D a hell of a lot better.

    *Weapon Detection: In previous games, if you knocked down an opponent near a weapon, it'd just bounce away. In the next game, the weapon should stay where it is, so it'd allow you to perform moves on downed chairs, tables etc.

    *Create An Entrance: Anyone who owns a GC WWE title knows what this is. Bring it to the PS2.

    *Create a Finisher: If you've played the Tony Hawks Underground games, you were able to create a special move. If you could do the same here, by making it a suplex, a submission etc, it'd be awesome...

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    #49 SwimPUNK
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    [QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="MysticKotenks"]I forgot to say put in create an entrance, maybe they could have a mike that records music. and Create a Player needs more weird stuff (spiderman mask and costume) :)MysticKotenks


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    No I don't :cries:


    please...for the love of all things good. Take that link out of your sig.

    Anyways....i hope SVR 2 is good enough for me to buy it because i didn't get SvR.
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    #50 wwervin
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    bump. So how are you guys feeling being so close to new info?