SummerSlam Main-Event Revealed? (Spoilers)

Source: Rajah.com

[spoiler] DirecTV is running a commercial for SummerSlam that exclaimed, "Can the returning Triple H defeat the Unstoppable World Heavyweight champion Edge?" [/spoiler]

Damnit, I knew it was coming.

Hopefully, that is true, for no other reason that it would likely lead to Triple H going to Smackdown, where they are in desperate need of main-eventer talent.

Plus, with Raw already having the likes of Cena, Booker, Kennedy, Lashley, Orton, Umaga and possibly Michaels upon his return, Raw has more main-event talent than they will be able to handle at this point and time.

Though, with that being said, I am taking allthis with "grain of salt," seeing how as the leaked Vegegance poster recently proved couple months back, untitl somethinghappens, nothing is for sure.

Triple H doesn't work on Tuesdays, Paul Heyman said so.keiblerfan69

Until Flair was recently drafted to SmackDown, he has been wrestling on Raw since before the draft and yet - I do not remember hearing anyone giving him any flack about that.

What about Shawn Michaels? Unless I am mistaken, the guy has never onced wrestled on SmackDown post-brand-extension era and yet - as the case is with Flair, nobody has given him any flack about that.

However, in regards to Triple H, thing that most everybody forgets is that from April 2002 until July 2002, Triple H wrestled exclusively on SmackDown. Also, since than, the guy has wrestled match on SmackDown against Chris Benoit, duing the Eddie Guerreo tribute show.

Needless to say, for guy that get flack for claims that he feels SmackDown is "below him," I find it "funny" he is practically the only one out of these 3 individual who receives heat for that, despite the fact he has more history with SmackDown as brand than both Michaels and Flair combined.

[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"]Triple H doesn't work on Tuesdays, Paul Heyman said so.Link256

Until Flair was recently drafted to SmackDown, he has been wrestling on Raw since before the draft and yet - I do not remember hearing anyone giving him any flack about that.

What about Shawn Michaels? Unless I am mistaken, the guy has never onced wrestled on SmackDown post-brand-extension era and yet - as the case is with Flair, nobody has given him any flack about that.

However, in regards to Triple H, thing that most everybody forgets is that from April 2002 until July 2002, Triple H wrestled exclusively on SmackDown. Also, since than, the guy has wrestled match on SmackDown against Chris Benoit, duing the Eddie Guerreo tribute show.

Needless to say, for guy that get flack for claims that he feels SmackDown is "below him," I find it "funny" he is practically the only one out of these 3 individual who receives heat for that, despite the fact he has more history with SmackDown as brand than both Michaels and Flair combined.

And during that brief period you mention, he just headlined a PPV against Undertaker and spent the rest of the time on the DL. Then, he also completely derailed an awesome PPV just to make a decision to go to Raw.

And I have given HBK plenty of flak about not going to Smackdown. I've also given him plenty of flak for refusing to turn heel.

And also, isn't it a little bit interesting and convenient that your two examples are two men intimately inviolved with Triple H?

I don't recall either HBK or Flair, until recently, being drafted to Smackdown and being the cornerstone of that draft, only to be traded back for 3 wrestlers before he works one show under the big fist. And not just any three wrestlers, the most decorated Tag Team in WWE history and a 5 Time WCW Champion.

The_Dude14

"the most decorated Tag Team in WWE History"? Please tell me that you do not really mean. With such teams as Hart Foundation, British Bulldogs, and LOD being part of WWE history, how can you say that? Plus, one could make very good debate that Hardyz and Edge/Christian were equals to Dudleyz during the height of their WWE popularity.

For the record, if you are talking about number of WWE title runs, I do believe Edge and Christian are the ones who hold the record, not the Dudleyz.

Also, regardless of that - even if Dudleyz are the so called "most decorated Tag Team in WWE History," I think it was clear to most everyone that they had been over-exposed by good margin by the time 2004 had rolled around.

In addition, in regards to the "5 Time WCW Champion," Booker T, champion of what? 4 of his 5 title runs happened within the last 10 months that WCW was in business and needless to say, by the time he won his first title, at best,the company was shell of its former shelf, with only fraction of the viewers, seeing 20 million dollar lost in 2000, the year that Booker T became champion. For his fifth and final run, who can honestly say they remember who he defeated for title and what show it took place on? I am thinking more likely than not, most people do not know the exact answer to that question.

As far as Triple H is concerned, I think this case of confusion what is work and what is shoot.

In my humble opinion, on the work side of things, it was way in which to help remind people that Triple H is the number 1 guy on Raw, which, whether or not people liked it or approved, by that point and time, he was for the better part of 2 years.

On the shoot side of things, I simply think it was excuse to move Booker T and Dudleyz over to Smackdown, without making things look one-sided in regards to the draft being balancedor non-balancedto both Raw and SmackDown.

In regards to Triple H's personal feelings about SmackDown, I think that is pure speculation. In turn, I could say in speculation that the reason hecontinues to be on Raw, so far, is that SmackDown is mostly about younger/non-established guys and clearly, he is not one of them.

Besides, you every think about the possibility that he simply one of those guys is "Raw" kind of guy? You know, in the same sense that Matt Hardy, The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio, among others throughout the years,our "SmackDown" kind of guys. By the way, if that does not make sense, what I mean is that someone such as Triple H had stayed on Raw simply due to the fact he fits the mold of the brand. Triple H is "edgy" kind of guy and thus, Raw is better suited for him, in sense that someone such as Rey Mysterio has "family appeal" and thus, SmackDown television audience is better suited for him.

In another words, it is similar reason why you do not really see any "violent" games on Nintendo system, where as in the case of Mircosoft, you do not really see any "kiddy" games.

Furthermore, in turn, I could speculate and say why is that Rey Mysterio and The Undertaker "refuse" to be moved over onto the likes of Raw? Not that I believe that, however, the point is in all of what I am saying, if you look hard enough, you can convience yourself to belief almost anything, regardless of the errors in that logic and/or lack of evidence.

Edit: True, you could try and discredit what I am saying as speculation or "crazy" talk, however, in turn, I could say the same exact thing in regards to claims that Triple H has not moved over to Raw due to the fact hethinks SmackDown is "beneath him."

And I have given HBK plenty of flak about not going to Smackdown. I've also given him plenty of flak for refusing to turn heel.

The_Dude14

However, the problem is that while you are, at the very least, constant on what you believe, there are others who, sadly, are not and in general, that is the group of people who I was referring to.

And also, isn't it a little bit interesting and convenient that your two examples are two men intimately inviolved with Triple H?

The_Dude14

Yeah, however, I am going to need lot more than before start jumping behind this or any other IWC conspiracy theory.

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I don't recall either HBK or Flair, until recently, being drafted to Smackdown and being the cornerstone of that draft, only to be traded back for 3 wrestlers before he works one show under the big fist. And not just any three wrestlers, the most decorated Tag Team in WWE history and a 5 Time WCW Champion.Link256

For the record, if you are talking about number of WWE title runs, I do believe Edge and Christian are the ones who hold the record, not the Dudleyz.

Also, regardless of that - even if Dudleyz are the so called "most decorated Tag Team in WWE History," I think it was clear to most everyone that they had been over-exposed by good margin by the time 2004 had rolled around.

And over-exposed? I suppose that is a matter of opinion, because when I think"overexposed" Triple H's face and expanding waistline come to my mind with remarkable speed. How many Raw PPVs weren't headlined by Triple H prior to that draft. And instead of going to a place where there is the illusion of freshness, he stayed on Raw and feuded with Shawn Michaels, hadn't seen that one before. And how many PPV main events did Beniot get without Triple H?

And Smackdown ended up with JBL.

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]And also, isn't it a little bit interesting and convenient that your two examples are two men intimately inviolved with Triple H?Link256

And how many people who are or have been in the business have to say this stuff before it stops being an IWC conspiracy? Paul Heyman is not exactly wrestlezone.com or diePaulLevesquedie's blog. You can chalk it up to playing to the crowd or whatever you choose, but this is a man who is intimately involved in WWE's writing process, not a pale 75 pound kid in his mom's basement.

I said "most decorated," I didn't say "best." They have won the WWF/E Tag team Titles a ridiculous number of times (the only team that might have more is E and C). They won the ECW Tag Team Titles an even more ridiculous number of times. They were the first team to win the WWF/E, WCW, and ECW Tag Team Titles and have gone on to win the NWA and TNA Tag Team Titles and no other team in the history of wrestling has done that. Whether you like them or not, whether you think they deserve that or not, whether you think they were over-exposed or not, these are facts. They happened and they show how much value the WWE saw in this team.

The_Dude14

Point taken, however, another thing you said was, and I quote, "the most decorated Tag Team in WWE History." Needless to say, last time I checked, NWA and TNA are not part of WWE history and while some may agrue that ECW is part of WWE history, seeing how Vince McMahon, the owner of the WWE, is the one who bought WWE, I do not think their variousECW title runs being part of WWE history simply due to the fact it not happen while they were in WWE. On the other hand, for whatever it is worth, I would consider their "WCW" title run to be part of their history, however, even at that rate, Edge and Christian still have them beat.

If anything, you should have said something along the lines of "the most decorated Tag Team in wrestling history" or "one of the most decorated Tag Teams in WWE history."

And over-exposed? I suppose that is a matter of opinion, because when I think"overexposed" Triple H's face and expanding waistline come to my mind with remarkable speed. How many Raw PPVs weren't headlined by Triple H prior to that draft. And instead of going to a place where there is the illusion of freshness, he stayed on Raw and feuded with Shawn Michaels, hadn't seen that one before. And how many PPV main events did Beniot get without Triple H?

And Smackdown ended up with JBL.

The_Dude14

For the record, in case it not already obvious, I am not debating whether or not Triple H should have moved to SmackDown because, in all honesty, he should have. The thing I am debating is the explanationon why he did not and for the record, why is that at times, when WWE makes mistake, is due to some kind of political reason? Why is that WWE cannot, I do not know, make mistake out of sheer stupitiy?

For that matter, why it necessarily have to be due to the "power" of Triple H? For all you known, could have been decision that Vince simply made on his own.

Also, if you want to play the speculation game, if rumors of Vince McMahon taking liking to JBL as being top heel of SmackDown, at the time, are true, than, needless to say, it would have been kind of difficult to accomplish task if Triple H would have been on the same show.

At some point, though, don't all these coincidences, conveniences that surround Triple H have to start adding up?

And how many people who are or have been in the business have to say this stuff before it stops being an IWC conspiracy? Paul Heyman is not exactly wrestlezone.com or diePaulLevesquedie's blog. You can chalk it up to playing to the crowd or whatever you choose, but this is a man who is intimately involved in WWE's writing process, not a pale 75 pound kid in his mom's basement.

The_Dude14

Why is that there has to be crime that is commented? Why is that Triple H is necessarily one responsible? Why is that even if Triple H responsible for one or two of these crimes, he has to necessarily responsible for most or all of the claims? Why is there is only one person who person responable? Why is that even if Triple H commented crime, the crime he being commented of is telling the whole truth? Why is that the defenders do not have some shared responsibility for these crimes? Why does it have to be black and white as who is guilty and who is innocent?

However, in regards to the issue at question, in all honesty, I think the reason he has stayed on Raw has due with some kind of preference for Raw, rather than necessarily being some kind knock against SmackDown, whether it be from Triple H, Vince, Stephanie and/or anyone else who may or may not have been involved in that decision.

At the end of the day, all I am saying is why is that Triple H has to either be "SOB who only married Stephanie in hopes of maintaining his position on top" or "misunderstood soul that gets lot of unnecessary flack"? Why is that there cannot be some kind middle ground? Why is there cannot be third, fourth and/or fifth possibility?

Why is that there has to be crime that is commented? Why is that Triple H is necessarily one responsible? Why is that even if Triple H responsible for one or two of these crimes, he has to necessarily responsible for most or all of the claims? Why is there is only one person who person responable? Why is that even if Triple H commented crime, the crime he being commented of is telling the whole truth? Why is that the defenders do not have some shared responsibility for these crimes? Why does it have to be black and white as who is guilty and who is innocent?

At the end of the day, all I am saying is why is that Triple H has to either be "SOB who only married Stephanie in hopes of maintaining his position on top" or "misunderstood soul that gets lot of unnecessary flack"? Why is that there cannot be some kind middle ground? Why is there cannot be third, fourth and/or fifth possibility?Link256

Because Triple H sucks.

Well , seeing HHH becoming a 6-time world heavyweight champion is not a bad idea . But I would like it if he stays on RAWand becomes a 6-time WWE champion after beating Cena .

Sounds like a sweet match, is it just me or does it seem like evolution might reform without orton?ceilinglamp001

No. An frankly, there has been no indication of such an idea. Trips has been injured with for half a year, flair is doing nothing special and Batista is on SmackDown!

WowTrips on smackdown? this could revive smackdown but it is still a bad idea

I think all this means is that Trips will become the double-ultimate supreme undisputed champion, holding both world titles, all the middleweight titles, both sets of tag team titles, and the womans title.

This is only the first step.

Oh yeah, I'm not sure yet if I'm being serious or sarcastic.

I remember reading a while back that Trips and Edge were going to feud with one another (back in 2006), but Trips decided to 'wait on it' until Edge was more 'established' in his role as a 100% bonafide heel. I guess now that Edge is finally ending the feud with Batista and with Kennedy out of the picture completely, there really isn't anyone that I could see on the roster that the WWE would push against Edge that would actually have a legitimate shot to beat him. Bringing in Triple H does that.... and gives them some much needed star power as well.

Really, this could be another move to stroke Triple H's ego... because if he goes to Smackdown and the ratings start going back up, who would likely take credit?? Of course, if the ratings don't do anything, well I guess that means Triple H isn't as important as he used to be.

Either way, I actually think it'd be a good idea, so long as Trips run as aface by himself this time is better than back in 2002 (much, much better).

EDIT: Oh ya... and I'm back. I've got internet again, so..... yeah. :P

Really, this could be another move to stroke Triple H's ego... because if he goes to Smackdown and the ratings start going back up, who would likely take credit?? Of course, if the ratings don't do anything, well I guess that means Triple H isn't as important as he used to be.DirtyDarren

And Triple H is among the last things that will get me to sacrifice my Friday nights.

And as for Trips feuding with Edge, I think Trips wanted to feud with Edge before it became clear that Edge was literally better at everything than Triple H. And during the DX: The Mid-Life vs Rated RKO feud, quad tear V 2.0 was the only thing that stopped DX from beating Edge and Orton in every major city.

Simple Question, 'Is this Main Event for Summerslam true?'.Basez2

Well nothing is true until the WWE themselves actually confirms it.... however, this is a rumor that has been going around, and from what has been said about Triple H's rehab, he is supposed to be aiming for his return to be sometime around SummerSlam.

However, I doubt that this match would be the 'main event' b/c any inter-brand ppv without John Cena in the main event just isn't a WWE ppv... at least that's how it seems.

[QUOTE="Basez2"]Simple Question, 'Is this Main Event for Summerslam true?'.DirtyDarren

Well nothing is true until the WWE themselves actually confirms it.... however, this is a rumor that has been going around, and from what has been said about Triple H's rehab, he is supposed to be aiming for his return to be sometime around SummerSlam.

However, I doubt that this match would be the 'main event' b/c any inter-brand ppv without John Cena in the main event just isn't a WWE ppv... at least that's how it seems.

Your right, but if theres one guy that will take that main event light away from Cena, its Triple H. Especially if its his big "return match." I stillget mad rememberingwhen DX's return against the freakin Spirit Squad took the main event at Vengeance last year.

I think that the only way we are ever going to know if this is true or not is:

1. Wait for the PPV poster to come out and go from there.
2. Wait till WWEAnnounces it.

Thats the only thing I can say other than, to say that Edge won't be faceing HHH he'll be faceing someone else like I don't know, Ric Flair, Matt Hardy, or Kane?

Or he could some how lose to Batista at Vengeance, but not lose his Championship.

1. Wait for the PPV poster to come out and go from there.

wwe4ever_in05

Never trust WWE posters... Kane was featured on the Judgement Day poster for this year, and he didn't even have a match at the ppv (unless I missed something). Most of the time, the posters have some type of hint included, but that's one instance when it was in no way involved.

[QUOTE="wwe4ever_in05"]

1. Wait for the PPV poster to come out and go from there.

DirtyDarren

Never trust WWE posters... Kane was featured on the Judgement Day poster for this year, and he didn't even have a match at the ppv (unless I missed something). Most of the time, the posters have some type of hint included, but that's one instance when it was in no way involved.

The somewhat more detailed ones are going to suck? Discluding the GAB poster.

[QUOTE="DirtyDarren"][QUOTE="wwe4ever_in05"]

1. Wait for the PPV poster to come out and go from there.

-Karmum-

Never trust WWE posters... Kane was featured on the Judgement Day poster for this year, and he didn't even have a match at the ppv (unless I missed something). Most of the time, the posters have some type of hint included, but that's one instance when it was in no way involved.

The somewhat more detailed ones are going to suck? Discluding the GAB poster.

Well yeah that's true about the Jugement Day poster and the same goes for the GAB poster, but still I think that even some kind of hint would be inculded into a PPV with howbig Summerslam is in all, even though last years Summerslam PPV poster just had all the wrestlers at a party.

HHH should not go to SD! for many reasons and won't be going to SD! for many reasons!

1. HHH has never liked SD! however he does admit on a radio show one time that he would like to make appearances now on but from a booking perspective being booked into a match he highly doubts it

2. his wife is Stephanie......PLAIN AND SIMPLE! his ego is gettign ahead of him and he tries to bring back that he got along with Stephanie back in the attitude era, but I highly doubt it he'll work on RAW til he gets told to by Steph and Vince!

3. HHH needs to try and possibly wil fail at keeping D-X's head up til Shawn gets back so example when HHH beats say for example Orton, he does a crotch chop or sprays D-X on his car et cetera

The actuall Summerslam question is...

Who will Hulk Hogan beat this year?

The actuall Summerslam question is...

Who will Hulk Hogan beat this year?

tman93

No, the question truely is, "Who cares?"

3. HHH needs to try and possibly wil fail at keeping D-X's head up til Shawn gets back so example when HHH beats say for example Orton, he does a crotch chop or sprays D-X on his car et cetera

Howell123

No. No, no, no, no, no. D-X needs to go away and never come back again on WWE programming. The fact is, WWE is much different now than back in the Attitude Era. Factions now don't get over like they used too, mainly b/c of the fact that the WWE continues to put their bigger names in a group, when really those groups should be used to springboard younger stars (see The Rock in NoD and Triple H in D-X) to success. Also, the way the WWE treats the tag team division it's no wonder people wouldn't care about a group with 3 or 4 people, when they give us no reason to care about a team of 2.

Some people liked D-X coming back, and others hated it. I fall in the latter category. D-X will never be what it once was, and the WWE needs to just come to terms with that and move on.

They basically stopped DX at wrestlemania when Shawn came out in non-DX attire to Sexy Boy.oshane_leagull

While Shawn did come out in his traditional HBK-esque attire, he did still use the D-X music for some reason. I think he stopped using the music the following night on RAW, but I could be mistaken.

[QUOTE="oshane_leagull"]They basically stopped DX at wrestlemania when Shawn came out in non-DX attire to Sexy Boy.DirtyDarren

While Shawn did come out in his traditional HBK-esque attire, he did still use the D-X music for some reason. I think he stopped using the music the following night on RAW, but I could be mistaken.

I'm starting to think your right, but the only thing that matters now is that it's gone.

[QUOTE="DirtyDarren"][QUOTE="oshane_leagull"]They basically stopped DX at wrestlemania when Shawn came out in non-DX attire to Sexy Boy.oshane_leagull

While Shawn did come out in his traditional HBK-esque attire, he did still use the D-X music for some reason. I think he stopped using the music the following night on RAW, but I could be mistaken.

I'm starting to think your right, but the only thing that matters now is that it's gone.

Exactly... well that and also that D-X stays gone.

And back to the point of Triple H not wanting to work on Smackdown, I just have to give a few reasons as to why he might go there. One reason is that looking at the Smackdown roster right now, there aren't alot of people who, if booked against Edge, would be a believable opponent that could dethrone him. Batista won't get a shot until Edge loses the belt (unless the WWE decides to "forget" his Last Chance Match, like they often do), Undertaker is injured, Kennedy is injured, Mysterio is injured, and it doesn't look like Kane is going to be getting another title run. Trips brings instant champion credibility to the brand (no matter how much you dislike him... I'm looking at you Dude) and while it may not be a big ratings jump, there are some people who would watch Smackdown just for him, kinda like some people watch RAW for John Cena or ECW for CM Punk.

Secondly, Trips has always had an ability to give the guys he works with, specifically the ones at the top tier, that extra boost into making them a champion. It happened for Orton (no matter how short lived it was), for Batista, and you could even make a case for John Cena as well seeing as how much scrutiny he was under going into their feud. What's to stop Trips from going to Smackdown and doing the same for say.... Kennedy... MVP... hell, maybe even Ken Doane (Dykstra)??

I mean, eventually Trips is going to come to the realization (he should've already) that he's no longer "the guy" to hold the belt.... right?

The actuall Summerslam question is...

Who will Hulk Hogan beat this year?

tman93

I noticed most if not all people are ruling out the idea of Edge going to RAW with the WHT, and Cena going to SD with the WWE Title.-Karmum-

Thats what i was thinking.