The Forgotten/Unknown Classics Thread

Are there any matches out there that you feel have been forgotten over time, or matches that are great but just don't get the love that they deserve, for whatever reason, be it the promotion that they occurred in, or the fact that Triple H makes the match unimportant by killing everyone involved a show later because "thou shalt not upstage the Game"? This is the thread to give that match some love, if you so desire.

Lets have some fun and discuss some matches, maybe help someone discover or rediscover a match that they'll love.

One of my favorites that ended terribly was Jeff Hardy vs Umaga that ended with Snitsky interference. It was the last match that while watching I was like "Hey, this is really good!" and then Snitsky of all people comes and interferes and I was like "NO, NO, NO!"

Then of course Trips comes out and kills everyone.

As for a match of the past, I'd have to say Hardy vs Taker in the ladder match doesn't get as much love as it deserves.

One of my favorites that ended terribly was Jeff Hardy vs Umaga that ended with Snitsky interference. It was the last match that while watching I was like "Hey, this is really good!" and then Snitsky of all people comes and interferes and I was like "NO, NO, NO!"

Then of course Trips comes out and kills everyone.

As for a match of the past, I'd have to say Hardy vs Taker in the ladder match doesn't get as much love as it deserves.

LEGOslayer

Taker Vs. Hardy was a really good match but, the one that I really liked was 1998 King of The Ring, when Kane won his only WWE Championship.

Another thing I really like was the Edge and Christian segments, and the Booker T and Goldust segments, those were always classic.

Try and get one from today's big 3 (only three?):

TNA: Alex Shelley vs Roderick Strong vs Austin Aires vs Sonjay Dutt, Bound For Glory 2005. Bound for Glory was something of a PPV of disappointment. I mean they brought f'n Jushin Liger all the way over from Japan to lose in, like, 7 minutes. One match, though, that did not disappoint was this opener, which aired during the Pre-Show (or free portion of BFG :roll: ). This was exactly the type of match that makes people love the X Division (so its exactly the type of match TNA never gives us anymore). Of course, the most obnoxious guy in the match is the guy that wins, but even Dutt's Sprinkler can only bring the match down so much, as Dutt, when not sprinkling, isn't too bad. It'd still have been better had it just been Aires vs Shelley vs Strong. Just an awesome, action packed exhibition. My favorite part of the match, though, Strong goes for a cover, Shelley comes in and loudly slaps Strong's back to break it up, Strong gets up and hits the LOUDEST chop in TNA history on Shelley, Shelley slaps Strong, Strong slaps Shelley and they just stare murder at each other for a second before Strong goes back to killing somebody.

WWE: Jamie Noble vs Billy Kidman, Survivor Series 2002. The Elimination Chamber is really the selling point of this SS, but its kind of forgotten that this is one of the best overall shows WWE did that year and part of that comes from this totally underrated Cruiserweight Title match. Kidman and Noble just seem to have great chemistry and worked at a fast pace while incorporating some awesome and innovative stuff. Its the kind of great Cruiserweight action you could only find on Velocity. Favorite part, Noble's Hangmen's DDT on Kidman. It looks like death.

ROH: John Walters vs Jimmy Rave, All Star Extravaganza II. As a rule, I hate Pure Title matches. As a rule, most ROH fans hate on everything that either John Walters or Jimmy Rave does. It comes especially easily when this match occurs on the same show as a Joe-Punk. However, this Walters-Rave is one of the hidden gems of ASE II as they are on, for whatever reason and put together a really strong match and a match which the Pure Title rules actually work to the advantage of the match as opposed to the detriment. Creative finish, too.

Alex Shelley vs Jimmy Jacobs, Joe vs Punk II. Something of a theme to these two. This is the blow-off "I Quit" match to the Shelley-Jacobs feud which has the unfortunate circumstance of occurring the same night as the "5 Star match." On any other night, this would have been one of the most talked about matches of the show as this is a great match with some brutal stuff. Shelley and Jacobs entered ROH as partners until Shelley ditches Jacobs to form up GenNext. Jacobs is continually frutrated by Shelley. This is a great mix of some hardcore action and some technical wrestling (a theme of the show, cause if you ever get it, you need to watch the debate between Mick Foley and Ricky Steamboat, too. Wooo). Favorite moment, Shellshock into the barricade.

ECW: Jerry Lynn vs Lance Storm, Anarchy Rulez 99. Being underappreciated is kinda the story of these guys' careers. When it comes to Jerry Lynn, its pretty much always RVD. Maybe someone will bring up an AJ match if they followed TNA in the early days. Lance is so underappreciated, you'd be lucky to get anybody to say anything. However, the opener to Anarchy Rulez 99 is a match that deserves props. It is damn near on par with RVD-Lynn and anybody that knows me ought to appreciate the compliment that is. This is the kind of match ECW never gets credit for having because Vince writes history. Favorite moment, the longest, most awesome 2 count sequence I have ever seen.

ECW: Jerry Lynn vs Lance Storm, Anarchy Rulez 99. Being underappreciated is kinda the story of these guys' careers. When it comes to Jerry Lynn, its pretty much always RVD. Maybe someone will bring up an AJ match if they followed TNA in the early days. Lance is so underappreciated, you'd be lucky to get anybody to say anything.

The_Dude14

There is very good reason for that.....because absolutely amazing as wrestler Lance Storm is from "technical" aspect, in turn, he has absolutely ZERO charisma.

If anything, I would say Lance Storm is over-appreciated, not under.

Also, with that being said, while I will be first person to admit "boring" gimmick was in bad taste, there was degree of truth in it.

Bottom line is that Lance Storm to me, is the prime example of why, despite what some of the pure-wrestling nuts may have to say, charisma does infact matter.

Bottom line is that Lance Storm to me, is the prime example of why, despite what some of the pure-wrestling nuts may have to say, charisma does infact matter. Link256

As far as the charisma vs talent arguement, we should know I am far more likely to side with wrestling talent. Chris Hero has boatloads of charisma, but I'll take Roderick Strong every time.

Also, how much of the boring Lance Storm you know the booking? Does Lance Storm really have that much less charisma, say, than Bret Hart or is it that no one put Lance in the same positions that Bret Hart was put in?

I think there are many numerous matches out there that are awesome and they get forgotten.

One that comes to my mind that gets passed over alot is the TLC 3 match on Smackdown! of May 2001. Remember how they said Edge never lost a TLC match in his career up until Cena beat him?! That TLC 3 match was probably high up on my list of one of my all time favorite TLC matches.

There are more but I'm too lazy to think of any at this moment.

Also, how much of the boring Lance Storm you know the booking? Does Lance Storm really have that much less charisma, say, than Bret Hart or is it that no one put Lance in the same positions that Bret Hart was put in?

The_Dude14

Yes.

For example, have you ever looked at Lance Storm's face during one of his matches or promos? No emotion

If the guy has ever had any untapped potential to show ability to connect with the audience, I have yet seen it.