Vince McMahon made the call early in the day that Big Show will replace Great Khali on Sunday, against The Undertaker, in the Punjabi Prison match. Khali also has a diseased liver and is expected to be taken off the road.
Source: Wrestling Observer
Smackdown's luck is incredible!! not that Khali was that much of the entertainment in the show, but storyline wise this was an incredibly bad timing for him to be pulled of the road. And something tells me the WWE is not going to care much about Smackdown!'s problems, if this was to raw, they would have probably gotten like 3 great replacements for the loses... JoexI agree. Maybe cause Vince knows that Smackdown! is dead.
The Great American Bash is doomed to be as successful as the other two prequels. Just when this year's one was actually looking promising too...
hbk91
Actually I've been thinking. Maybe this curse isn't so bad. Look who replaced the injured superstars. Mr. Kennedy vs. Batista? Undertaker vs. Big Show? I know I'd rather see them than Batista/Henry and Taker/Khali...
Actually I've been thinking. Maybe this curse isn't so bad. Look who replaced the injured superstars. Mr. Kennedy vs. Batista? Undertaker vs. Big Show? I know I'd rather see them than Batista/Henry and Taker/Khali...Total-KO
However, these changes matches really go into the GAB with a fraction of build-up, contrary to what the original bookings scheduled before. So it gives a chance for better workers (so to speak) to have their time on the PPV, but it really won't go too well with the buy-rates if you ask me.
Even though it kills me to say this, Henry vs. Batista was a big match scheduled for the show since there was history between the two and we would have seen the top heel worker go against one of the top face workers from SD!
You have got to be freakin' kidding me...?
I cannot believe this nonsense... 3rd victim within the last week... Seriously...where is that voodoo witch doctor...spiritual wise (wo)man...or whatever you want to call it...to lift the curse where when you need him/her? I mean...seriously...who is next? (I am not going to list any names, in fears of jixing anyone...)
Anyhow...at the very least...Smackdown curse has certainly been working in favor of the fans in the past week.... After all...I would say that the likes Taker/Show, Batista/Kennedy and Regal/Finlay is certainly much more interesting than the likes Taker/Khali, Batista/Henry and Lashley/Regal/Finlay...easily... Also...while it may effect the roster intially...and while I hope the likes of both Henry and Khali recover from their persepctive heatlh issues... I certainly will not be missing them while they are departed from the brand...
WTF why is big show in the freaking punjabi prison? I guess we wont be seeing khali for a long time.......straven_marvenSeeing how Big Show attacked The Undertaker at Saturday Night's Main Event...and had match with him at ECW on Sci-Fi...it makes sense why they would biij Big Show against The Undertaker this match...storyline wise...
And something tells me the WWE is not going to care much about Smackdown!'s problems, if this was to raw, they would have probably gotten like 3 great replacements for the loses... Joex
Personally...I disagree...
Big Show makes sense for reasoning stated above...
Finlay-Regal has potential to be MOTN...so honestly...do not see why anyone needed to replace Lashley...? Besides...there is not really anyone else...that is available...who has the credibility to be believable in the ring to be with likes Regal and Finlay...
Mr Kennedy is certainly interesting choice...and probably the best replacement for Mark Henry... He is solid worker...and over with the audience... what more could you ask for...? Granted...the downside is that seeing this is Batista's return to pay-per-view...Ken Kennedy will probably be loosing another match at the event... However...considering what situation is...I think that is understandable....
Also...you have to remember is that timing could have not been worse...with one of the matches...Mark Henry vs. Batista...only happening week before pay-per-view, while the others only happen day or two before the event... not exactly lot of time to switch and build into other feuds, to say the least... Personally...considering the circumstances...I think management accomplished very good task of repackaging the matches...
Honestly...I do not think could have done too much better if it were Raw were in this situation... After all...regardless of the brand...what have still been the same bad timing...and same lacking of time, in order to repackages the matches...Â
No freaking way! So that's Orton, Angle, Benoit, Lashley, Khali, Henry, Batista who have all fell under! The GAB is definitely gonna suck more now...not that Khali is a step down from Show or anything...Total-KO
Suck more...? What...? Granted...the matches are lacking build...and that certainly will do not any favors for the audience having reason to care for them...however...in regards to match quality...I would personally say that all of the matches have changed for the better...
[QUOTE="Total-KO"]Actually I've been thinking. Maybe this curse isn't so bad. Look who replaced the injured superstars. Mr. Kennedy vs. Batista? Undertaker vs. Big Show? I know I'd rather see them than Batista/Henry and Taker/Khali...hbk91
However, these changes matches really go into the GAB with a fraction of build-up, contrary to what the original bookings scheduled before. So it gives a chance for better workers (so to speak) to have their time on the PPV, but it really won't go too well with the buy-rates if you ask me.
Even though it kills me to say this, Henry vs. Batista was a big match scheduled for the show since there was history between the two and we would have seen the top heel worker go against one of the top face workers from SD!
That is a very good point, but it may turn out a lot better, remember that Henry isn't a good worker even with the best of people, and Big Show/Undertaker could have a mention of The Unholy AllianceThe SmackDown! Curse continues, in the worst way possible this year. :(Jackov
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Am i missing something here? Why isn't everyone jumping up in joy over this? Yeah, it f*cks up the PPV, but so what? It's not like they were going to break 200, 000 buys any time soon, anyway. Khali's out indefinitely and Mark Henry is out for 6 months, which is more of a blessing for the brand than a curse.
At least the curse is working in our favor._Muta
I second that thought.
Of course, now you have to wonder what the point of having the Punjabi Prison match really is. I guess just to deliver on the 'hype' they've put into, if you can even call it that.
[QUOTE="Jackov"]The SmackDown! Curse continues, in the worst way possible this year. :(_Muta
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Am i missing something here? Why isn't everyone jumping up in joy over this? Yeah, it f*cks up the PPV, but so what? It's not like they were going to break 200, 000 buys any time soon, anyway. Khali's out indefinitely and Mark Henry is out for 6 months, which is more of a blessing for the brand than a curse.
Well...I am not really "jumping for joy," however, I certainly see the positives in this situation... and I see the negatives as well... And yeah...I would certainly agree... in the long-term...at the end of day... the positives certainly out-weight the negatives...
Edit: After all...WWE Great American Bash went from having two, count 'em two, train-wrecks for matches, to zero of them (Show-Taker, at the very should, should be below average range...which certainly does not equal into "train-wreck" status)... Also...pay-per-view having possibly MOTN candidate within Regal-Finlay... dare I say possibly MOTY candidate?
Wow, now I see a Punjabi Prison Match worthless if there's not someone who knows it there. I would love to see that just to know what the hell is it. Think about, if the one who challenged Undertaker for that type of match is gone, it means he knows how it is, and how to wrestle there and use it as his advantage. Now we have 2 Superstars who dont know what a Punjabi Prison Match is. But it will be interesting how these 2 clash in there. I assume its a No DQ and to win you must escape, just like Steel Cage Matches, right?Like a mix of a Steel Cage and a Hell in a Cell match?
BTW, why hasnt this been posted on WWE.com yet?When will they put it then?
The curse began when the true "wrestling savior" of this decade left, Brock Lesnar. Smackdown was actually competetive with Raw when Lesnar was there. Hopefully with his new falling out in NJPW he will return. Screw what people say about CM Punk being the savior, Lesnar was the savior of wreslting but he left. Had Lesnar stayed who know's where Smackdown and the WWE as a whole would be, Lesnar had charisma, mic skills, the looks of the big man, the ability, the crediblity, the intmidation factor, etc. Want proof? If Lesnar came back today with no prior build up, and was placed in a heavy-weight title match, fans would accept him as a champion and probably be more interested in that match then the one that's been built for a month. Lesnar leaving started the downfall, the death of Eddie Guerrero crippled Smackdown, and now they are on life support.scoobypat
Lesnar was the "saviour of wrestling?"Â Then why were the ratings, house show attendance, and buyrates all on a downturn during his run?Â
If he were the saviour, wouldn't he have lead wrestling back to the promised land of mainstream acceptance, been a crossover star into other mediums and, at least, draw ratings above the 4 mark? However, he did none of those and never showed the potential to do any of those.
Was Lesnar a big deal? No doubt.  When he quit, did it hurt Smackdown? No, it didn't just hurt Smackdown, alongside Angle taking time off for his neck, it crippled it. Lesnar was their biggest player and strongest heel, but the "saviour of wrestling?" Lesnar was a good-great big man, power move wrestler, with decent mic skills and charisma, but very little mainstream appeal. He didn't have enough appeal to be brought in as a ticket selling attraction for the Vikings, a team that really had nothing to lose by keeping him around. Would he be accepted as a credible contender from day 1, if he came back? Yeah, I have very little doubt. However, so would Batista. Does that make either the "saviour of wrestling?" Hell no. Lesnar was good, I'll never deny that, but was he or would he ever be, if he hadn't quit, on the same level as Hogan, Austin or Rock. I'd be a little more than shocked. Lesnar'd be lucky to be held in the same regard as Goldberg, as far as "wrestling saviours," go. He hangs around, I don't see wrestling being much, if any, better than it is right now.
Plus, from accounts I've read of viewing figures / sales figures, his run in Japan pretty much flopped, too.Lesnar was the "saviour of wrestling?" Then why were the ratings, house show attendance, and buyrates all on a downturn during his run?
If he were the saviour, wouldn't he have lead wrestling back to the promised land of mainstream acceptance, been a crossover star into other mediums and, at least, draw ratings above the 4 mark? However, he did none of those and never showed the potential to do any of those.
Was Lesnar a big deal? No doubt. When he quit, did it hurt Smackdown? No, it didn't just hurt Smackdown, alongside Angle taking time off for his neck, it crippled it. Lesnar was their biggest player and strongest heel, but the "saviour of wrestling?" Lesnar was a good-great big man, power move wrestler, with decent mic skills and charisma, but very little mainstream appeal. He didn't have enough appeal to be brought in as a ticket selling attraction for the Vikings, a team that really had nothing to lose by keeping him around. Would he be accepted as a credible contender from day 1, if he came back? Yeah, I have very little doubt. However, so would Batista. Does that make either the "saviour of wrestling?" Hell no. Lesnar was good, I'll never deny that, but was he or would he ever be, if he hadn't quit, on the same level as Hogan, Austin or Rock. I'd be a little more than shocked. Lesnar'd be lucky to be held in the same regard as Goldberg, as far as "wrestling saviours," go. He hangs around, I don't see wrestling being much, if any, better than it is right now.
The_Dude14
Lesnar was far too young though, I said he would have been the savior of wreslting. Look at the man's accomplishment and reputation in a 3 year period, no one else in the business has accomplished so much in that little time, why even Kurt Angle had to fiddle around in the mid-card for at least a year and a half.Lesnar was the "saviour of wrestling?"Â Then why were the ratings, house show attendance, and buyrates all on a downturn during his run?Â
If he were the saviour, wouldn't he have lead wrestling back to the promised land of mainstream acceptance, been a crossover star into other mediums and, at least, draw ratings above the 4 mark? However, he did none of those and never showed the potential to do any of those.
Was Lesnar a big deal? No doubt.  When he quit, did it hurt Smackdown? No, it didn't just hurt Smackdown, alongside Angle taking time off for his neck, it crippled it. Lesnar was their biggest player and strongest heel, but the "saviour of wrestling?" Lesnar was a good-great big man, power move wrestler, with decent mic skills and charisma, but very little mainstream appeal. He didn't have enough appeal to be brought in as a ticket selling attraction for the Vikings, a team that really had nothing to lose by keeping him around. Would he be accepted as a credible contender from day 1, if he came back? Yeah, I have very little doubt. However, so would Batista. Does that make either the "saviour of wrestling?" Hell no. Lesnar was good, I'll never deny that, but was he or would he ever be, if he hadn't quit, on the same level as Hogan, Austin or Rock. I'd be a little more than shocked. Lesnar'd be lucky to be held in the same regard as Goldberg, as far as "wrestling saviours," go. He hangs around, I don't see wrestling being much, if any, better than it is right now.
The_Dude14
Lesnar had he been given time to blossum would have been the new face of the company the way Hogan was, the way Hart was, the way Austin was, the way the Rock, etc. Each of these men in their respective times moved the company forawrd into mainstream status in some form, these names (maybe with the exception of Hart) are recognizable to non-fans thusly prooving wreslting to some extent had made a mainstream impact even further. To be called the "Savior of wrestling" it imply's the wreslter can reutnr the comapny and business to the once glorious apex it was at, that clearly being the Hogan reign when wrestling was widely popular with everyone. Each of the wreslters I listed above did somewhat do that, like I said they made wreslting popular in their respective times. Yet we have not seen that face for quite sometime, ever since the dwindling of the Rock we as an industry have been aching for that face. Lesnar had it.
Now Lesnar's personal choices have no bearing on him as being full of potential to bring wreslting back to the forefront of mainstream television, and to some extent neither does his wreslting ability as some have called to question. Lesnar has more wreslting ability now then Hogan ever had, it simply doesn't matter in a star that is built right. (Personally though I feel Lesnar was a great technical wreslter, I'm just addressing concerns).
But again back to the potential never reached question, I feel now is a great time to revert back to how much Lesnar had accomplished and how mouch fan support and credibility he had earned in his short tenure. Now compare that to the first 3 years of the Rock, Austin, Hart, and even Hogan, he looks like a superstar compared to them. One more factor you must equate is the factor of unpredicatability, do you think if I told you that the Rock would be perhaps the second biggest draw in the history of the industry when he was Rocky Maiva you'd believe me? No you'd probably laugh and go back to chanting DIE ROCKY DIE. What about when the Ringmaster arrived? Terry Boulder? That's what I thought.
Lesnar was far too young though, I said he would have been the savior of wreslting. Look at the man's accomplishment and reputation in a 3 year period, no one else in the business has accomplished so much in that little time, why even Kurt Angle had to fiddle around in the mid-card for at least a year and a half. scoobypatNo other wrestler has been as forcefully shoved down our throats before or since Lesnar. You had two choices when it came to Lesnar, accept it or stop watching and a lot of people seemed to choose the latter.Â
Lesnar had he been given time to blossum would have been the new face of the company the way Hogan was, the way Hart was, the way Austin was, the way the Rock, etc. Each of these men in their respective times moved the company forawrd into mainstream status in some form, these names (maybe with the exception of Hart) are recognizable to non-fans thusly prooving wreslting to some extent had made a mainstream impact even further. To be called the "Savior of wrestling" it imply's the wreslter can reutnr the comapny and business to the once glorious apex it was at, that clearly being the Hogan reign when wrestling was widely popular with everyone. Each of the wreslters I listed above did somewhat do that, like I said they made wreslting popular in their respective times. Yet we have not seen that face for quite sometime, ever since the dwindling of the Rock we as an industry have been aching for that face. Lesnar had it.scoobypat Maybe, anything is possible, but I don't see it. I don't see Lesnar "having it" at all. Hogan, Austin, and Rock all had a connection with the fans that Lesnar did not. Hogan was an over-the-top superhero, Austin, an everyman who got to live the working man's dream and Rock appealed to us with a sharp wit, charisma and knew/knows how to entertain a crowd. Lesnar was/is a meathead with, at best, average mic skills and showed me no potential to reach a crowd the same way the above did.
Now Lesnar's personal choices have no bearing on him as being full of potential to bring wreslting back to the forefront of mainstream television, and to some extent neither does his wreslting ability as some have called to question. Lesnar has more wreslting ability now then Hogan ever had, it simply doesn't matter in a star that is built right. (Personally though I feel Lesnar was a great technical wreslter, I'm just addressing concerns).scoobypat I never questioned Lesnar's talent or potential in the ring and I don't know too many people who have and I won't doubt that ability in the ring has very little bearing on who can draw, even though, I believe its becoming much more important.  His personal choices may have no bearing on his potential to bring wrestling back to the mainstream, it has everything to do with the impact and what he has accomplished and may accomplish in wrestling.  If he doesn't make the personal choice to try his hand at football, we aren't having this conversation, we'd know the answer. If he doesn't make the personal choices to be a jackass that wants special treatment along with a ridiculous price tag, again, this conversation  If Brock Lesnar doesn't become a headcase, we'd be seeing that alternate futureÂ
But again back to the potential never reached question, I feel now is a great time to revert back to how much Lesnar had accomplished and how mouch fan support and credibility he had earned in his short tenure. Now compare that to the first 3 years of the Rock, Austin, Hart, and even Hogan, he looks like a superstar compared to them. One more factor you must equate is the factor of unpredicatability, do you think if I told you that the Rock would be perhaps the second biggest draw in the history of the industry when he was Rocky Maiva you'd believe me? No you'd probably laugh and go back to chanting DIE ROCKY DIE. What about when the Ringmaster arrived? Terry Boulder? That's what I thought.scoobypatAnd I go back to the point that no one before or after has been pushed, no shoved, with the absolute ferocity that Lesnar was given, with the possible exception of Goldberg, who had more fan support and has had more crossover appeal than Brock Lesnar while working within very similar time period.Â
Plus, as a result of his relentless shoving and the fact that Lesnar, unlike Hogan, Austin, Rock, Hart, Foley, Angle and even Triple H was handed his success, while foregoing paying his dues and earning his stripes in the business, Lesnar becomes a headcase, who grows bored of wrestling and tries his hand at football, and who won't come back to the company that made him because he wants special treatment, even after he left the company high and dry and put no one over in his time.
You call him the "saviour of wrestling," I see him being closer to Kevin Nash than I do to Hulk Hogan.
No other wrestler has been as forcefully shoved down our throats before or since Lesnar. You had two choices when it came to Lesnar, accept it or stop watching and a lot of people seemed to choose the latter.Â[QUOTE="scoobypat"]Lesnar was far too young though, I said he would have been the savior of wreslting. Look at the man's accomplishment and reputation in a 3 year period, no one else in the business has accomplished so much in that little time, why even Kurt Angle had to fiddle around in the mid-card for at least a year and a half. The_Dude14
Lesnar had he been given time to blossum would have been the new face of the company the way Hogan was, the way Hart was, the way Austin was, the way the Rock, etc. Each of these men in their respective times moved the company forawrd into mainstream status in some form, these names (maybe with the exception of Hart) are recognizable to non-fans thusly prooving wreslting to some extent had made a mainstream impact even further. To be called the "Savior of wrestling" it imply's the wreslter can reutnr the comapny and business to the once glorious apex it was at, that clearly being the Hogan reign when wrestling was widely popular with everyone. Each of the wreslters I listed above did somewhat do that, like I said they made wreslting popular in their respective times. Yet we have not seen that face for quite sometime, ever since the dwindling of the Rock we as an industry have been aching for that face. Lesnar had it.scoobypat Maybe, anything is possible, but I don't see it. I don't see Lesnar "having it" at all. Hogan, Austin, and Rock all had a connection with the fans that Lesnar did not. Hogan was an over-the-top superhero, Austin, an everyman who got to live the working man's dream and Rock appealed to us with a sharp wit, charisma and knew/knows how to entertain a crowd. Lesnar was/is a meathead with, at best, average mic skills and showed me no potential to reach a crowd the same way the above did.
Now Lesnar's personal choices have no bearing on him as being full of potential to bring wreslting back to the forefront of mainstream television, and to some extent neither does his wreslting ability as some have called to question. Lesnar has more wreslting ability now then Hogan ever had, it simply doesn't matter in a star that is built right. (Personally though I feel Lesnar was a great technical wreslter, I'm just addressing concerns).scoobypat I never questioned Lesnar's talent or potential in the ring and I don't know too many people who have and I won't doubt that ability in the ring has very little bearing on who can draw, even though, I believe its becoming much more important.  His personal choices may have no bearing on his potential to bring wrestling back to the mainstream, it has everything to do with the impact and what he has accomplished and may accomplish in wrestling.  If he doesn't make the personal choice to try his hand at football, we aren't having this conversation, we'd know the answer. If he doesn't make the personal choices to be a jackass that wants special treatment along with a ridiculous price tag, again, this conversation  If Brock Lesnar doesn't become a headcase, we'd be seeing that alternate futureÂ
But again back to the potential never reached question, I feel now is a great time to revert back to how much Lesnar had accomplished and how mouch fan support and credibility he had earned in his short tenure. Now compare that to the first 3 years of the Rock, Austin, Hart, and even Hogan, he looks like a superstar compared to them. One more factor you must equate is the factor of unpredicatability, do you think if I told you that the Rock would be perhaps the second biggest draw in the history of the industry when he was Rocky Maiva you'd believe me? No you'd probably laugh and go back to chanting DIE ROCKY DIE. What about when the Ringmaster arrived? Terry Boulder? That's what I thought.scoobypatAnd I go back to the point that no one before or after has been pushed, no shoved, with the absolute ferocity that Lesnar was given, with the possible exception of Goldberg, who had more fan support and has had more crossover appeal than Brock Lesnar while working within very similar time period.Â
Plus, as a result of his relentless shoving and the fact that Lesnar, unlike Hogan, Austin, Rock, Hart, Foley, Angle and even Triple H was handed his success, while foregoing paying his dues and earning his stripes in the business, Lesnar becomes a headcase, who grows bored of wrestling and tries his hand at football, and who won't come back to the company that made him because he wants special treatment, even after he left the company high and dry and put no one over in his time.
You call him the "saviour of wrestling," I see him being closer to Kevin Nash than I do to Hulk Hogan.
Potential and fulfilling it are to vastly different things, if I as a booker (or any competent one) could be given the shell of Lesnar prior to any WWE run he would be a star, he just had it, how he was pushed changed what he had though. I will aknowledge as you said he was forcefully poushed, but given time to truely bloom without the pressure he would have reached that pinacle with no doubt in my mind, it's how Lesnar was handled that changed him, not how he was.Potential and fulfilling it are to vastly different things, if I as a booker (or any competent one) could be given the shell of Lesnar prior to any WWE run he would be a star, he just had it, how he was pushed changed what he had though. I will aknowledge as you said he was forcefully poushed, but given time to truely bloom without the pressure he would have reached that pinacle with no doubt in my mind, it's how Lesnar was handled that changed him, not how he was.scoobypatHowever, if he were given time to truely bloom and shine and earn his spot at the top, he would not have achieved the success he did so quickly, which was one of your points of why he was a "saviour of wrestling." Anywho...
I understand what you are saying about potential and results and I said that I don't and never saw anything to make me believe that Lesnar would be the guy that would lead to a resurgence in wrestling. Could I be wrong? Sure, I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong about things in the future. Maybe he could have been the guy to turn things around and bring wrestling back to mainstream acceptance. However, I never saw the kind of connection with the audience on any level near what Hogan, Austin, Rock or even Foley had. I never saw any hint of it. And there's alos a reason that someone else did the talking for the majority of Lesnar's career. I don't see Lesnar having much, if anything in the way of mainstream appeal. If anything, he represents the exact stereotype of what the mainstream viewed wrestlers and I didn't see any of the traits the other guys I named have to get beyond that. He didn't show me any of the charisma of an Austin, Rock or a Hogan, he sure as hell doesn't have the wit of Foley or Rock. He didn't even have the mystique that Goldberg had.
When I say that he's closer to Kevin Nash than Hulk Hogan, I'm talking in terms of what might have been, not what is. Nash had a career a lot of wrestlers would kill for, he's headlined the biggest shows and been a part of some major happenings, but he's hardly a wrestling saviour. His periods on the top were marred in declines, but he's continued to find ways to be there. In all honesty, I could have seen Lesnar being similar to Undertaker. He could have had a good long Hall of Fame career and won his titles, always be near the top of the card, but never being the draw that others were, never being the guy to put wrestling into the mainstream, but generally being near the top of people's favorite wrestlers lists and was hardly "wrestling's saviour," no matter how long his career lasts.
But the point is moot, because Lesnar had everything handed to him and he got bored and tired of it and quit and it has everything to do with this conversation because it is the reality of the situation. We don't and probably will never know if Lesnar could be "that guy," because was handed everything on a silver platter and Lesnar sent it back to the chef.
I know it's not their fault to be injured but I have to say this; GAB PPV will su*k , cause in the paper it will be BAtista v.s MH then it is changed, now UT and Khali. People bought that tickets to watch those mathces but on the end it is changed. WWE is destroying the reputation of WCW's GAB.
dark_cererbum
Build wise...yes...the pay-per-view has certainly had some damage...
However...quality wise... I would say the pay-per-view...without doubt...has certainly changed for the better...
Also...I doubt that people will be complaining, because the likes of Mark Henry and Great Khali are not on the card... I mean...seriously... who is buying tickets to see the likes of those two...? No... I would say as long as they get to see the likes of The Undertaker and Batista wrestle...especially Batista... the opponent they are put against does not really matter... Also...ever hear of the expression "card subject to change"? Well...there is obviously good reason on why they clearly labeled that expression on the tickets and the bottom of pay-per-view listing...in case someone is not able to wrestler for whatever reasons they may be, whether it be personal issue, injury, death, etc...
Edit:Â What reputation? If the so called "reputation" of the Great American Bash did not die when WCW when the way of the Pet Rock...than certainly...it died after having previous two years where the quality...or lack thereof...was practically non-existent...Â
[QUOTE="darklordcj91"]All of this is good for Raw.straven_marven
[QUOTE="straven_marven"] [QUOTE="darklordcj91"]All of this is good for Raw.The_Dude14
A random guess, SD losing superstars and having to combine rosters which then has Bastista and Booker on RAW. Thats the only positives out of that.
geez, why does everyone want the rosters to combine? if they do that, they are gonna have to fire people cuz there will be too many people. plus that just means more Cena each week on both shows and less time for guys that hardly get time now i.e. Londricks, Gibson, Helms, Regal, Birchall, Psicosis, Super Crazy, Haas, etc. recombining the rosters would also make it look like Vince failed, and Vince hates that.
the roster split was the best thing the WWE has done since the Attitude Era. SD might be hurt now, but it's still a ratings bulldozer with 3+ every week.
[QUOTE="mrgab"]Combined might mean more possiblities for better tag teams and more explosure for them as well.sephy37
then the WWE should get rid of at least IC or US and Women's or CW.
could turn the US title into hardcore. Man I miss the days of the HC title. European no though.
[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="mrgab"]Combined might mean more possiblities for better tag teams and more explosure for them as well.mrgab
then the WWE should get rid of at least IC or US and Women's or CW.
could turn the US title into hardcore. Man I miss the days of the HC title. European no though.
Would be nice to see the Hardcore belt come back and see some hardcore matches hit the ring again[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="mrgab"]Combined might mean more possiblities for better tag teams and more explosure for them as well.Dante-2006
then the WWE should get rid of at least IC or US and Women's or CW.
could turn the US title into hardcore. Man I miss the days of the HC title. European no though.
Would be nice to see the Hardcore belt come back and see some hardcore matches hit the ring againyou haven't been watching ECW have you?
[QUOTE="Dante-2006"] [QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="mrgab"]Combined might mean more possiblities for better tag teams and more explosure for them as well.sephy37
then the WWE should get rid of at least IC or US and Women's or CW.
could turn the US title into hardcore. Man I miss the days of the HC title. European no though.
Would be nice to see the Hardcore belt come back and see some hardcore matches hit the ring againyou haven't been watching ECW have you?
I have, while its been ok, I enjoyed more the days of the HC title defended.
[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="Dante-2006"] [QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="mrgab"]Combined might mean more possiblities for better tag teams and more explosure for them as well.mrgab
then the WWE should get rid of at least IC or US and Women's or CW.
could turn the US title into hardcore. Man I miss the days of the HC title. European no though.
Would be nice to see the Hardcore belt come back and see some hardcore matches hit the ring againyou haven't been watching ECW have you?
I have, while its been ok, I enjoyed more the days of the HC title defended.
it would be pointless to bring it back cuz of ECW, but if Vince wanted to bury the ECW legacy even more, he would change the name of ECW and the whole image away from "hardcore" and "extreme," then the hardcore title could be a good little diversion
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