Time for a new WWE Champion, Cena has to go!

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#1 patm69037
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John Cena and his stupid gimmick have the champion for far too long. The fans are starting to get tired of him. Batista gor a bigger pop than Cena did just for showing his face on RAW on monday night. Batista also got a bigger pop than Cena when his match started. Nobody can honestly say that Kurt Angle or Kane should not be the rightful WWE Champion. Its time for Cena to go heel, and its time for Kurt Angle to get a push as a face. Kane has always been kind of a chaotic neutral, its time he got his push aas the big monster again. Kurt Angle is a pure athlete, and Cena although he may be talented in some aspects, is nothing but gimmick for now. He has the potential to be great, but until he starts using more moves during a match his wrestling skills will never improve. The fans have a great appreciation for actual wrestling skill and awesome bumps, and not just character and gimmick which only get you so far.
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#2 DirtyDarren
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Finally some else has the same view as me.  John Cena had a good run when he was first becoming popular, but he has gotten old really fast.  Hopefully the WWE will realize they need a new champion *cough* ANGLE *cough* because of how he was booed at Taboo Tuesday.  I think there is a good possibility that either Angle could win the title at Survivor Series, seeing as how Cena has never beaten Angle.  I could also see HBK work into the title race also.... either way Cena is done.
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#3 Dark_Hylian8
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^finally someone? darren, 1/2 the union thinks the same thing
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#4 Kitanya
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Has anyone else noticed that the crowds have started booing him?
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#5 DirtyDarren
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^finally someone? darren, 1/2 the union thinks the same thingDark_Hylian8


Well I feel like I am one of the only people that voice it constantly, but I'm glad that everyone else hates him.:D
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#6 HanzoMaster
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Agreed time for a change

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#7 hbk91
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Has anyone else noticed that the crowds have started booing him? Kitanya
Oh I certainly have. At Taboo Tuesday he gazed at the crowd in confusion when he got a huge pall of boos' and negative feedback. I totally agree. Cena's time is up. Give the title to Angle now...
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#8 oreoshane
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[QUOTE="Kitanya"]Has anyone else noticed that the crowds have started booing him? hbk91
Oh I certainly have. At Taboo Tuesday he gazed at the crowd in confusion when he got a huge pall of boos' and negative feedback. I totally agree. Cena's time is up. Give the title to Angle now...

LMAO I didnt know he got booed! :lol:

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#9 deanie25
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Cena lose to Angle at sirvivor series then they have remach at new years revolution. And we see HBK and Angle heve for the title there fight at the Royal Rumble. Then they go on to WerstlesMania to finsh it.

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#10 Kotenks
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....Cena markness won't allow me to agree
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#11 HanzoMaster
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he should go or turn heel and really do some damage like I know he can
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#12 oreoshane
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Cena sucks now. I liked him when he didnt have a milion phrases and 3 moves. I liked it before he turned the US Title into a spinner. Thats what started the first phrase "The Champ is Here" and it still annoys me to this day. WWE has so many issues :roll: Do they think hes going to become the next freggin Hulk Hogan or The Rock?!?!?!?!?!?? He sucks with this gimmick needs a heel turn and needs to lose that title.

On a side not I hopw if/when someone beats Cena they change it back to the old title. I cant stand that one.

Other side note is his music sucks! Fozzy owns Cena.

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#13 Joex
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DUDE U HAVE MY 300% SUPPORT FOR THAT COMMENT!!, Cena shouldnt have outlasted summerslam.... Benoit is a far better champion that he is and he didnt, but who knows, maybe they would have given Y2J the title reign if he didnt leave....Cena is a BAD wrestler and even stupid fans are starting to get bored, he always gets his as kicked and comes out in the end with that FU of his (wich hurts less than a backbody drop btw) and wrecks whoever takes it.... thats not cool!!! KURT ANGLE IS THE BEST REAL WRESTLER IN THE WWE TODAY AND HE SHOULD B THE ONE TAKING THE TITLE FROM CENA!!!
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#14 Chicago_Nut
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NEITHER Batista or Cena should be holding the titles, their times are up, and should have been up before Summerslam. Batista is great though, but he has been holding the title even longer than anyone that was better than him *cough*Benoit, Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle*cough*
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#15 oreoshane
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[QUOTE="Joex"]DUDE U HAVE MY 300% SUPPORT FOR THAT COMMENT!!, he always gets his as kicked and comes out in the end with that FU of his (wich hurts less than a backbody drop btw) and wrecks whoever takes it.... thats not cool!!![/QUOTE]

Glad to see someone thinks like me! :D

If the F-U hurt then my username would be FUoreoCKCena

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#16 Snake5050
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I personaly like \cena, so if he loses the wwe title I'd like to see him Bing up the intercontinental.
I think the smackdown fans had much more appreciation for him. I wish he and Batista were on Smackdown. that's my view.
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#17 oreoshane
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NEITHER Batista or Cena should be holding the titles, their times are up, and should have been up before Summerslam. Batista is great though, but he has been holding the title even longer than anyone that was better than him *cough*Benoit, Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle*cough*Chicago_Nut

You should see a doctor for that Marcin! ;)

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#18 Kotenks
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piff Haters want to hate markers want to mark and that's what makes the world go round
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#19 oreoshane
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piff Haters want to hate markers want to mark and that's what makes the world go roundKotenks

And that means......?

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#20 HanzoMaster
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yea I'm hatin because he sucks MAJOR DONKEY/MONKEY BALLS AS HIM BEING A FACE A HEEL CENA WOULD BE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR SINCE HIS ALOT BETTER AS A HEEL
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#21 Kotenks
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It means Kotenks just confused you

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#22 oreoshane
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It means Kotenks just confused you

Kotenks 3:16

Kotenks

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Just to remind those of you who don't remember or know, I was singing this song before this song was cool. 

I was predicting this to happen before Cena even won the title.  Cena has neither been consistent on the mic nor in the ring and its catching up with him as fans are rebelling.  His pops have gone from enormous to the Orton/Jeff Hardy level.  As his own song says, "My time is now" to lose the title.  The two biggest things Cena needs right now is to drop the belt and improve his lackluster in-ring work.

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#24 DirtyDarren
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You are completely right.... and I don't even think he was ever good on the mic
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#25 patm69037
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bump
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#26 bestlaker
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nah, Cena should stay.
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#27 HanzoMaster
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Just to remind those of you who don't remember or know, I was singing this song before this song was cool. 

I was predicting this to happen before Cena even won the title.  Cena has neither been consistent on the mic nor in the ring and its catching up with him as fans are rebelling.  His pops have gone from enormous to the Orton/Jeff Hardy level.  As his own song says, "My time is now" to lose the title.  The two biggest things Cena needs right now is to drop the belt and improve his lackluster in-ring work.

The_Dude14

I've said this so many times CENA has the talent to wrestle and for some reason the E isn't letting him but his earlier matches with Brock,Angle,and the Undertaker were quite good since he wrestle them then all of sudden he stopped and started this crap pound and ground attack which sucks since he does five moves

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I've said this so many times CENA has the talent to wrestle and for some reason the E isn't letting him but his earlier matches with Brock,Angle,and the Undertaker were quite good since he wrestle them then all of sudden he stopped and started this crap pound and ground attack which sucks since he does five moves

HanzoMaster

And I said it so many times before, the only person holding John Cena back in the ring is John Cena.  Cena is in the main event, so its not a matter of time limits that he doesn't wrestle good matches, its entirely because John Cena doesn't WANT to wrestle good matches.  He has gotten complacent and believes he can go out and wrestle the same formula where he hits his signature spots and goes home with no drama in every non-PPV match he's in and remain popular and that's not the case.  John Cena is not Hulk Hogan.

This has absolutely nothing to do with WWE placing restrictions on John Cena, as absolutely NONE of John Cena's moveset (back when he actually had one) has been banned.  This has everything to do with John Cena feeling he can get by with wrestling the same match every time he goes out.

John Cena is not improving in the ring, not because of politics or Triple H, but because John Cena doesn't want to improve.

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#29 HanzoMaster
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[QUOTE="HanzoMaster"]

I've said this so many times CENA has the talent to wrestle and for some reason the E isn't letting him but his earlier matches with Brock,Angle,and the Undertaker were quite good since he wrestle them then all of sudden he stopped and started this crap pound and ground attack which sucks since he does five moves

The_Dude14

And I said it so many times before, the only person holding John Cena back in the ring is John Cena.  Cena is in the main event, so its not a matter of time limits that he doesn't wrestle good matches, its entirely because John Cena doesn't WANT to wrestle good matches.  He has gotten complacent and believes he can go out and wrestle the same formula where he hits his signature spots and goes home with no drama in every non-PPV match he's in and remain popular and that's not the case.  John Cena is not Hulk Hogan.

This has absolutely nothing to do with WWE placing restrictions on John Cena, as absolutely NONE of John Cena's moveset (back when he actually had one) has been banned.  This has everything to do with John Cena feeling he can get by with wrestling the same match every time he goes out.

John Cena is not improving in the ring, not because of politics or Triple H, but because John Cena doesn't want to improve.

You may be right but the E has limited him in ways they have limited everyone they have banned moves for some reason and yea Cena has become lazy due to the fact that the E is letting him but like I said if the E lets him do what he do then he would be a worthy champion

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#30 Dark_Hylian8
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I think Cena has talent in the ring, but i think his Time is Over, and the title must be passed. Kurt Angle is the only wrestler on Raw i think has earned it. Shawm Michaels has not earned it yet, and i don't think his reputation and his past in the buisness is any reason to give him the title. The ONLY way HBK would recieve that title is for him to win it One on One with Kurt Angle to end the controversy between the 2 superstars. To sum it up, John Cena has been the Champion for too long and that title must be passed to a worthy superstar, Kurt Angle.
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#31 HanzoMaster
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Well I think Kurt is the Second greatest wrestler on Raw Behind Triple H

but yea Cena its time to go you had a good run but let it go man Kurts Coming for you and theres nothing you can do about it

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#32 Dark_Hylian8
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Well I think Kurt is the Second greatest wrestler on Raw Behind Triple H

but yea Cena its time to go you had a good run but let it go man Kurts Coming for you and theres nothing you can do about it

HanzoMaster

that is where i have to disagree 100 % Kurt Angle>Triple H. Triple H's wrestling skills have greatly run down. Kurt Angle isa one of the top wrestlers in the WWE who has the body and the skills to own every other superstar on Raw and Smackdown! 

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#33 HanzoMaster
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well for me no one is better than the Game and I like Kurt to but not more than Triple H

and if he had he can still out wrestle anyone including Kurt but thats me

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#34 philcabinet
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ahem Kane.
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#35 HanzoMaster
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ahem Kane. philcabinet

what about him

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#36 Dark_Hylian8
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If it wern't for the a certain HOT daughter of a certain Butt Sergion and a certain 8 pound block on a stick, Triple H wouldn't be where he is today

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#37 HanzoMaster
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If it wern't for the a certain HOT daughter of a certain Butt Sergion and a certain 8 pound block on a stick, Triple H wouldn't be where he is today

Dark_Hylian8

yea I'm tired of that statment Triple H was well on his way before Steph got in the picture

so that argurment is null and void his great with or without Steph

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#38 Link256
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I think Cena has talent in the ring, but i think his Time is Over, and the title must be passed. Kurt Angle is the only wrestler on Raw i think has earned it. Shawm Michaels has not earned it yet, and i don't think his reputation and his past in the buisness is any reason to give him the title. The ONLY way HBK would recieve that title is for him to win it One on One with Kurt Angle to end the controversy between the 2 superstars. To sum it up, John Cena has been the Champion for too long and that title must be passed to a worthy superstar, Kurt Angle.Dark_Hylian8

IMHO, both of them deserve the WWE Championship and I would be happy with either wrestler being crowned as new champion, I simply do not see why you think Angle deserves it, while Michaels does not?

I think Cena has the potential to be good wrestler, however this potential will not be released until Cena stops being heavy formula-style wrestler and stops being so damn lazy.

John Cena's main problems are that:

A) He has been the WWE Champion for too long (6 months) and this has obviously become stale, teadious, repeative and boring.

B) He has been built as "unbeatable force" and this is obviously problem, as it is very unrealistic and becomes to predicatable. Also, it does not help manners when his wrestling skills (or the lack of them) obviously do not match this "unbeatable force."

C) His formula wrestling skills have become WAY TOO predicatable, along with obviously his matches.

Basically, John Cena is WWE's version of Bill Goldberg.

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Kurt Angle is my opinion is the greatest pure wrestler the WWE has seen in years. He is an Olympic Gold medalist, and his athletiscism is unmatched on RAW.Its time for him to become the ultimate hero. Did you guys watch Taboo Tuesday? In the triple threat match for the title the crows was cheering for Angle louder than Cena. He got the ankle lock on him, Cena kept trying to kick him off but Kurt held on with everything he had. Did you see the faces of the people in the first few rows that were visible? They were all yelling for Cena to tap out!!! Everytime after an attempt by Cena to kick Angle off his ankle, the crowd got louder and louder when Kurt still held on. The fan's were clearly in Angle's corner. I for one get angry at all those stupid people when i hear the YOU SUCK chant during Kurt's music. What sucks about Kurt Angle? Nothing!! He is a fantastic wrestler, and his intensity is matched only by Batista. His mat skills are unmatched by anyone in WWE. The time has come for his push to be the hero of RAW and win the WWE Championship. He is perfect for it in every way, and I for one can't take it anymore. Cena has GOT to go. This HAS to be done. I will go as far as to say that we tell the WWE about it. It seems they dont get it.
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Cena needs to go yes, but this is just callin out all the obsessed people here *cough* angle fan guy *cough*, Cena needs to go, and right noq quite frankly I don't care who replaces him, I'd be happy with a midget replacing him.
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[QUOTE="Shadows_Fury"]Cena needs to go yes, but this is just callin out all the obsessed people here *cough* angle fan guy *cough*, Cena needs to go, and right noq quite frankly I don't care who replaces him, I'd be happy with a midget replacing him.



You want Rey Mysterio to win the title? :D
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#42 oreoshane
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[QUOTE="Shadows_Fury"]Cena needs to go yes, but this is just callin out all the obsessed people here *cough* angle fan guy *cough*, Cena needs to go, and right noq quite frankly I don't care who replaces him, I'd be happy with a midget replacing him.
philcabinet


You want Rey Mysterio to win the title? :D

No I think he means someone from the juniors division on SD :P

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[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]I think Cena has talent in the ring, but i think his Time is Over, and the title must be passed. Kurt Angle is the only wrestler on Raw i think has earned it. Shawm Michaels has not earned it yet, and i don't think his reputation and his past in the buisness is any reason to give him the title. The ONLY way HBK would recieve that title is for him to win it One on One with Kurt Angle to end the controversy between the 2 superstars. To sum it up, John Cena has been the Champion for too long and that title must be passed to a worthy superstar, Kurt Angle.Link256

IMHO, both of them deserve the WWE Championship and I would be happy with either wrestler being crowned as new champion, I simply do not see why you think Angle deserves it, while Michaels does not?

I think Cena has the potential to be good wrestler, however this potential will not be released until Cena stops being heavy formula-style wrestler and stops being so damn lazy.

John Cena's main problems are that:

A) He has been the WWE Champion for too long (6 months) and this has obviously become stale, teadious, repeative and boring.

B) He has been built as "unbeatable force" and this is obviously problem, as it is very unrealistic and becomes to predicatable. Also, it does not help manners when his wrestling skills (or the lack of them) obviously do not match this "unbeatable force."

C) His formula wrestling skills have become WAY TOO predicatable, along with obviously his matches.

Basically, John Cena is WWE's version of Bill Goldberg.

I say HBK doesn't deserve the title because IMHO he doesnt do enough to show it. He loses all the time, and IMHO, Kurt Angle has been fueding with Cena long before they arrived on Raw. Yes after countless losses to Cena for the title, he still IMHO is the only wrestler right now who deserves that push to get the title.

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#44 DirtyDarren
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I think that HBK deserves a title shot.... against Kurt Angle.  Cena and Angle have been feuding for sooo long that he is the only logical person who should win the title right now.  Of course, the WWE is running a little short on logic these days.
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#45 KevyR
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Cena has been champion for about 7-8 months now, and I think his reign must come to an end. I want either Kurt Angle or Shawn Michaels to win it so they can further fued along and have Triple H and Ric Flair in the picture hunt. Then maybe we can have some kind of Elimination Chamber match at Survivor Series with Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Ric Flair, John Cena, and I would like it if Shelton Benjamin comes into the title hunt.
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#46 DirtyDarren
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They should do another 6 man Hell in a Cell.... I think that would be a good match too.
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#47 TheGm86
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They should make Cena a Heel and have him him come to the ring with an entourage of big black guys ( or white suburban Gangstas) and become or revert to being a big cheater.
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#48 DirtyDarren
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He could act like Jamie Kennedy off of Malibu's Most Wanted!  Ohh wait... he already does.:lol:
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#49 oreoshane
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Remeber well Angle and Cena were still on SD Cena beat Angle for #1 Contendership at WM so there feud has lasted..... FOREVER! HBK vs Angle's started at WM  so that would be much better for the title.
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#50 Shadows_Fury
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[QUOTE="philcabinet"] [QUOTE="Shadows_Fury"]Cena needs to go yes, but this is just callin out all the obsessed people here *cough* angle fan guy *cough*, Cena needs to go, and right noq quite frankly I don't care who replaces him, I'd be happy with a midget replacing him.
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You want Rey Mysterio to win the title? :D

No I think he means someone from the juniors division on SD :P


Yeah i meant the juniors division, and don't diss mysterio, he pwns your ***, i just want someone other than cena to have the title