TNA Hard Justice Discussions Thread - August 12, 2007

"Winner Takes All" Match (Every Title on the Line)
Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe

Doomsday Chamber of Blood
Sting, Abyss, & Andrew Martin vs. Christian Cage, AJ S_tyles, & Tomko

Tag Team Dream Match
The Steiner Brothers vs. Team 3D

Barroom Brawl
Rhino vs. James Storm

Humiliation Match
Eric Young vs. Robert Roode

LAX vs. VKM

"Wildcat" Chris Harris vs. Dustin Rhodes "Black Reign"

Motor City Machine Guns vs. Triple X vs. Sonjay Dutt & Black Machismo

Raven vs. Kazarian

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Give us your thoughts and predictions on TNA's upcoming HAAAWWWWRRRRD Justice PPV.

what the devil is that other belt angle has?Mu5uk0

The IWGP Third Belt.

You may remember that after Brock Lesnar went to NJPW after leaving WWE he won the IWGP Title. Well, troubles came about from his working visa and because he couldn't work in Japan he was forced to give up the title.

However, Antonio Inoki (Former NJPW owner err, I think) made his own federation, the Inoki Genome Federation. He was able to defend the IWGP title there. However, NJPW & IGPW said that Lesnar was no longer the IWGP World Heavyweight Championbut Lesnar kept the physical belt. Inoki then renamed that belt the IWGP belt that Lesnar was keeping the IWGP Thrid Belt.

Kurt Angle then defeated Brock Lesnar for the belt.

Hey, if Sephy can answer this for me, how come NJPW don't just charge Inoki with theft of their physical belt? I mean, the physical belt isn't rightfully theirs.. right? They stripped Lesnar of the title.

[QUOTE="Mu5uk0"]what the devil is that other belt angle has?Total-KO

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[QUOTE="Mu5uk0"]what the devil is that other belt angle has?The_Dude14

Oh, i thought his working visa expired. *shakes fistat wikipedia*

I think this main event is ridulous. I am sure many of you do too. Why are they having the company revolve around these too. Unless, they want Joe to win them all and then create a faction to go up against Cage's. I think Triple X + Joe would be amazing.keiblerfan69

I think Samoa Joe leaving TNA would be amazing. :P

But on to the reason why I'm responding to your post. I do agree that this main-event is stupid. Nobody is going to win the match, and it's a lame build up to a seemingly obvious BFG Joe-Angle. If it was just a TNA Heavyweight Title match then maybe I'd be seemingly interested.

I don't know what happen to this whole buzz about TNA being so great, I think they have somewhat good wrestling, and also Samoa Joe Vs. Kurt Angle for all those Championships doesn't make one ounce of sences, and when did TNA have the right to put a diffrent companies Championship on the line?

I really don't know what is going on in TNA, but the whole The Stiner Brother Vs. Team 3d feud looks to be build some steam IMO.

I don't know what happen to this whole buzz about TNA being so great, I think they have somewhat good wrestling, and also Samoa Joe Vs. Kurt Angle for all those Championships doesn't make one ounce of sences, and when did TNA have the right to put a diffrent companies Championship on the line?

I really don't know what is going on in TNA, but the whole The Stiner Brother Vs. Team 3d feud looks to be build some steam IMO.

wwe4ever_in05

TNA is basically promoting the title. Angle won't lose the title in the United States, it's a given. And by the way, nobody is saying TNA is great anymore. Maybe 1.5 years - 2 years ago. If that's what you meant.

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I don't know what happen to this whole buzz about TNA being so great, I think they have somewhat good wrestling, and also Samoa Joe Vs. Kurt Angle for all those Championships doesn't make one ounce of sences, and when did TNA have the right to put a diffrent companies Championship on the line?

I really don't know what is going on in TNA, but the whole The Stiner Brother Vs. Team 3d feud looks to be build some steam IMO.

-Karmum-

TNA is basically promoting the title. Angle won't lose the title in the United States, it's a given. And by the way, nobody is saying TNA is great anymore. Maybe 1.5 years - 2 years ago. If that's what you meant.

Well yeah I guess thats true.

This match leads me to believe the rumor I've heard that Samoa Joe turned down a three year contract extension with TNA. I definately think this match was orginally going to be the BFG main event. It makes no sense to have this match at this PPV.

This match leads me to believe the rumor I've heard that Samoa Joe turned down a three year contract extension with TNA. I definately think this match was orginally going to be the BFG main event. It makes no sense to have this match at this PPV.

The_Dude14

If this is true, do you think Joe will be open to a different TNA contract or will he be leaving TNA altogether?

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"] This match leads me to believe the rumor I've heard that Samoa Joe turned down a three year contract extension with TNA. I definately think this match was orginally going to be the BFG main event. It makes no sense to have this match at this PPV.Total-KO

The James Storm vs. Rhino "Bar Room Brawl" match for Hard Justice will take place in an actual bar.

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The James Storm vs. Rhino "Bar Room Brawl" match for Hard Justice will take place in an actual bar.

Credit: Pwinsider.com

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When was the last time either of these guys were even on TV?

This looks like a pretty weak PPV altogether, but I'll predict the only match on the card that matters: I'm betting Angle goes over Joe again. I'd be shocked if Joe won. I'd also put a high probability on a screwball finish that'll piss off everyone.

The only other match that looks appealing is the 3-Way Tag, which I doubt will get the time to live up to its potential.

Joe vs Angle is going to have to deliver for this PPV to have any redeeming qualities, but I'd be surprised if this PPV ends up being anything better than Russoriffic.

I'd also be pretty surprised if anyone here actually orders it and comments on it.

Nyah's mine.....

"Winner Takes All" Match (Every Title on the Line)
Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe
PREDICTED WINNER: Kurt Angle

Doomsday Chamber of Blood
Sting, Abyss, & Andrew Martin vs. Christian Cage, AJ S_tyles, & Tomko
PREDICTED WINNERS: Sting, Abyss, & Andrew Martin

Tag Team Dream Match
The Steiner Brothers vs. Team 3D
PREDICTED WINNERS: Team 3D

Barroom Brawl
Rhino vs. James Storm
PREDICTED WINNER: James Storm

Humiliation Match
Eric Young vs. Robert Roode
PREDICTED WINNER: Robert Roode

LAX vs. VKM
PREDICTED WINNERS: VKM

"Wildcat" Chris Harris vs. Dustin Rhodes "Black Reign"
PREDICTED WINNER: Chris Harris

Motor City Machine Guns vs. Triple X vs. Sonjay Dutt & Black Machismo
PREDICTED WINNERS: Triple X

Raven vs. Kazarian
PREDICTED WINNER: Kazarian

Here's what I want to see:

"Winner Takes All" Match (Every Title on the Line): Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe
Joe beats Angle CLEANLY to win all the titles. Also a huge swerve happens......TNA does nothing stupid and doesn't swerve us at all.

Doomsday Chamber of Blood, #1 Contender's Match: Sting, Abyss and Andrew Martin vs. Christian Cage, AJ S_t_yles, Tomko
Martin is beaten so badly that he has to leave TNA and possibly retire from wrestling. AJ gets tired of being Cage's lapdog, beats everyone and becomes the #1 contender for the TNA World Title.

Tag Team Dream Match: The Steiner Brothers vs. Team 3D
The Steiners beat Team 3D in what might not be a great match but is a historical one.

Barroom Brawl: Rhino vs. James Storm
The twobrawl like crazy hitting eachother with everything they can find. Eventually Rhino falls on top of Stormafter beating each other senseless for the pin.

Humiliation Match: Eric Young vs. Robert Roode
Young wins and Roode is humiliated by shaking Young's hand and agreeing that they will never, ever, EVER fight each other again.

LAX vs. VKM
LAX beat VKM so badly that they leave TNA out of embarassment

Chris Harris vs. Dustin Rhodes
Chris Harris wins. Dustin Rhodes doesn't turn into Goldust.

Motor City Machine Guns vs. Triple X vs. Sonjay Dutt & Black Machismo
MCMG win starting a feud against XXX.

Raven vs. Kazarian
Kazarian wins to free himself from Serotonin and go after the X-Title. Bentley leaves Serotonin to do the same. Raven retires. And I don't care about Johnny Devine. Or this feud can go longer. I wouldn't mind that either.

ugh, i hate TNA so much.

Lethal/Dutt over MCMG & XXX

the worst part is, it's tons of highspots and usual X Division wackiness....AND THEN LETHAL GETS THE WIN WITH A SMALL PACKAGE!

YOU ARE NOT BRYAN DANIELSON, JAY. YOU'RE A F****** FLIPPY GUY SO DO SOME F****** FLIPS YOU B****

How did the team added at the last minute win the match over established and much better teams like XXX and MCMG??

Oh and guess what. It looks like the Young/Roode fued is going to go EVEN LONGER. THIS SHOULD HAVE ENDED 3 FN MONTHS AGO!! WHY ARE THEY STILL FIGHTING?????

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate Angle.

ugh, i hate TNA so much.

Lethal/Dutt over MCMG & XXXsephy37

the worst part is, it's tons of highspots and usual X Division wackiness....AND THEN LETHAL GETS THE WIN WITH A SMALL PACKAGE!

YOU ARE NOT BRYAN DANIELSON, JAY. YOU'RE A F****** FLIPPY GUY SO DO SOME F****** FLIPS YOU B****sephy37

If Summerslam doesn't roll this PPV up and smoke it, something in McMahonland will have gone more horribly wrong than usual.

When has Jay Lethal ever been flippy. The closest he has ever come to being flippy is a cart-wheel. It could have been worse, it could have been Dutt. Or Lethal could have cut a promo. Pick your poisin there,

The_Dude14

X Division stereotype = Flippy

besides, if you had seen the match, it was a ton of highspots and a very X Division style match...and then Lethal does a small package...

edit: oh god, i'd rather see Jay Lethal beat Kenta Kobashi than watch another one of his promos...

"this...is the joke...i've been waiting for"