TNA Turning Point Prediction/Discussion Thread: December 11th 2005

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#1 keiblerfan69
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NWA World Heavyweight Title Match
"King of the Mountain" Jeff Jarrett (c) vs. "The Man Beast" Rhino

TNA X Division Title Match
"The Phenomenal" AJ Styles (c) vs. "The Samoan Submission Machine" Samoa Joe

Tables Match
NWA World Tag Team Champions, America's Most Wanted vs. Team 3D

Barbed Wire Massacre
"The Homicidal, Genocidal, Suicidal" Sabu vs. "The Monster" Abyss

Who Earns The World Title Shot?
"The Alpha Male" Monty Brown vs. Christian Cage

Eight Man Tag Team Match
The 4Live Kru vs. Team Canada

X Division Tag Team Match
Matt Bentley & Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley & Roderick Strong

Preshow
"The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy, Lance Hoyt, & The Naturals vs. Buck Quartermain, Lex Lovett, Jon Bolen & Joe Doering

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#2 DirtyDarren
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I wonder if Cage will fight someone.... Jeff Hardy would be really cool to see
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#3 pariahmap
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looks like sabu and abyss will steel the show for a 4th ppv in a row

i hope bobby rude has a singles match at turning point .

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#4 hbk91
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Shaping out to be an awesome PPV. 8)

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#5 hbk91
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*Updates wallpaper*

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#6 shoot_em_up123
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*Points up to the Sky*

I think Sabu will finish off this feud.

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#7 mja2k3
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I've never seen a barbed wire match before, I hope it's good cause I might order this. 
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I wonder if Cage will fight someone.... Jeff Hardy would be really cool to seeDirtyDarren

agree! i cant get used to people calling him cage:?

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[QUOTE="DirtyDarren"]I wonder if Cage will fight someone.... Jeff Hardy would be really cool to seelilhbk

agree! i cant get used to people calling him cage:?



Only reason I am used (halfway) to it is b/c he has been one of my favorite wrestlers ever since he had his feud with Edge, so I studied up on him to learn more bout his career...
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#10 lilhbk
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[QUOTE="lilhbk"]

[QUOTE="DirtyDarren"]I wonder if Cage will fight someone.... Jeff Hardy would be really cool to seeDirtyDarren

agree! i cant get used to people calling him cage:?



Only reason I am used (halfway) to it is b/c he has been one of my favorite wrestlers ever since he had his feud with Edge, so I studied up on him to learn more bout his career...

yeah but cage....it's sounds weird for some reason for me

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#11 shoot_em_up123
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I've never seen a barbed wire match before, I hope it's good cause I might order this. mja2k3

they are wicked awesome.  One of the best ones is Sabu VS Terry Funk.

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#12 lilhbk
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i have that match in my computer...oreo sent it to me...it's just freakin awesome!
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#13 DirtyDarren
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Man that match is really good, but sometimes I can't hardly watch it b/c it is sooo insane.
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#14 lilhbk
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true...insane..but awesome
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#15 -RKO
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And theres no question Abyss is hardcore and more than willing to put his body on the line majorly.
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[QUOTE="mja2k3"]I've never seen a barbed wire match before, I hope it's good cause I might order this. shoot_em_up123

they are wicked awesome.  One of the best ones is Sabu VS Terry Funk.

i guess you mean there match at BORN TO BE WIRED 97 ( one week before hardcore heaven 97)

its one of the many ecw videos i have

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And theres no question Abyss is hardcore and more than willing to put his body on the line majorly.-RKO

well sabu is not hardcore...he's insane! i would give this one to sabu

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[QUOTE="shoot_em_up123"]

[QUOTE="mja2k3"]I've never seen a barbed wire match before, I hope it's good cause I might order this. pariahmap

they are wicked awesome.  One of the best ones is Sabu VS Terry Funk.

i guess you mean there match at BORN TO BE WIRED 97 ( one week before hardcore heaven 97)

its one of the many ecw videos i have

correct.  I have it downloaded on my comp. :D

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#19 Kotenks
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We will see Daniels vs. Joe probably
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#20 -RKO
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We will see Daniels vs. Joe probablyKotenks
Daniels is injured, remember?
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#21 Kotenks
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Is it an angle or is he really injured

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#22 KevyR
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I think we might see more matches announce tonight on iMPACT! But yea, Sabu and Abyss match will probably steal the show. People will be talking about this match for years to come.
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#23 -RKO
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Is it an angle or is he really injured

Kotenks
I think its an angle but I think he will be out until after Turning Point probably. We'll probably find out tonight though! :D
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#24 -RKO
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I think we might see more matches announce tonight on iMPACT! But yea, Sabu and Abyss match will probably steal the show. People will be talking about this match for years to come.KevyR
Yeah definitely. It will be the standard for hardcore matches for years afterwards. I hope Jeff Hardy has a match too.
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#25 Kotenks
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AJ vs. Samoa Joehas been announced
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- UPDATED CARD -

NWA World Heavyweight Title Match
"King of the Mountain" Jeff Jarrett (c) vs. "The Man Beast" Rhino

TNA X Division Title Match
"The Phenomenal" AJ Styles (c) vs. "The Samoan Submission Machine" Samoa Joe

Tables Match
NWA World Tag Team Champions, America's Most Wanted vs. Team 3D

Barbed Wire Massacre
"The Homicidal, Genocidal, Suicidal" Sabu vs. "The Monster" Abyss

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#27 davidsamta
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i think we'll see cage vs. monty announced soon after what happened last night on impact
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#28 pariahmap
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- UPDATED CARD -

NWA World Heavyweight Title Match
"King of the Mountain" Jeff Jarrett (c) vs. "The Man Beast" Rhino

TNA X Division Title Match
"The Phenomenal" AJ Styles (c) vs. "The Samoan Submission Machine" Samoa Joe

Tables Match
NWA World Tag Team Champions, America's Most Wanted vs. Team 3D

Barbed Wire Massacre
"The Homicidal, Genocidal, Suicidal" Sabu vs. "The Monster" Abyss

hbk91

looks like turning point will be tna ppv of the year for a second year in a row

heres who i want to win at turning point

- rhino

- samoa joe

- amw

- sabu

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#29 davidsamta
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i have a feeling double j will retain
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#30 sephy37
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i have a feeling double j will retaindavidsamta

they need to add christian or monty brown in the main event to save the match with either of those men winning. monty or christian should be champ

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[QUOTE="davidsamta"]i have a feeling double j will retainsephy37

they need to add christian or monty brown in the main event to save the match with either of those men winning. monty or christian should be champ



Even though I'm probably one of the biggest Christian marks in the union, I still think Monty should get the title ASAP.

But, I have a feeling that they're going to make Christian vs. Monty(although it hasn't been announced) at Turning Point be a #1 Contender's match, where Monty puts his title shot he won at Genesis on the line. And, I have a feeling Christian will win that, which will piss me off. It seems like Monty gets a push once every 3 months, only to get his push killed somehow. But, either of the two are so much of a better champ than Jarrett.

Anyway...Turning Point doesn't interest me so far, except for Joe/AJ(and the possibility of Christian/Monty). But, I'm sure they'll add some more x-division matches.
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#32 Kotenks
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Well they will have genesis for preorder when this comes on what matches should I get

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#33 DirtyDarren
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Turning Point is shaping up nicely... I'm glad to see that Rhino is getting a rematch after losing his title so suddenly, but I do agree that Double J will probably retain.
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#34 lilhbk
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ok monty brown against Christian for sure after what happened...and christian shoud win:D, and im really looking up for sabu's match
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Turning Point is shaping up nicely... I'm glad to see that Rhino is getting a rematch after losing his title so suddenly, but I do agree that Double J will probably retain.DirtyDarren

I might see Raven get involve in this one after he keep bugging Larry Z about his lost to Jarrett. Maybe he will help Rhino win, who knows.

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#36 Kotenks
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What genesis match was good?
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Rhino---W AJ Styles---W Team 3D---W Sabu---W
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[QUOTE="DirtyDarren"]Turning Point is shaping up nicely... I'm glad to see that Rhino is getting a rematch after losing his title so suddenly, but I do agree that Double J will probably retain.KevyR

I might see Raven get involve in this one after he keep bugging Larry Z about his lost to Jarrett. Maybe he will help Rhino win, who knows.



Maybe TNA will do something with all the people Jarrett talked about.... Monty, Christian, Rhino, and Raven.  I think that AJ will get interference from Daniels, but Joe will still win the title.
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[QUOTE="Kotenks"]We will see Daniels vs. Joe probably-RKO
Daniels is injured, remember?

That didn't seem to stop him from working two matches for ROH on Saturday, one of which was for the ROH Title.  So, its safe to say its an angle.

Anywho, its Styles-Joe II (sort of), rendering that point moot.

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[QUOTE="-RKO"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]We will see Daniels vs. Joe probablyThe_Dude14

Daniels is injured, remember?

That didn't seem to stop him from working two matches for ROH on Saturday, one of which was for the ROH Title. So, its safe to say its an angle.

Anywho, its Styles-Joe II (sort of), rendering that point moot.



The injury was an angle to get this match set up between Joe-Styles... which is good because it's the reason I decided to buy the ppv.
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#41 JML897
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What genesis match was good?Kotenks


Elimination X. I think it was Aries, Sonjay, Matt Bentley, and Chris Sabin vs. Roderick Strong, Alex Shelley, Samoa Joe, and Chris Daniels.
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#42 Link256
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[QUOTE="Kotenks"]What genesis match was good?JML897


Elimination X. I think it was Aries, Sonjay, Matt Bentley, and Chris Sabin vs. Roderick Strong, Alex Shelley, Samoa Joe, and Chris Daniels.

Styles vs. Williams was good as well, but yeah (I agree), Elimation X was match of the night.

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#43 Kotenks
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Alright not a one word post
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NWA World Heavyweight Title Match
Jeff Jarrett vs. Rhino

Winner- Double J

TNA X Division Title Match 
AJ Styles  vs. Samoa Joe

Winner- AJ

Tables Match
America's Most Wanted vs. Team 3D

Winner- Team 3-D

Barbed Wire Massacre
 Sabu vs.  Abyss

Winner- Sabu

I'm expecting they'll add Christain vs. Monty Brown

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My god I have to order this PPV. Sadly, I have never seen a tables match before, but I have seen a barbed wire match. It was Sabu vs Terry Funk and it was BRUTAL! And AJ vs Samoa Joe only sweetenes the deal :D
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#46 -RKO
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My god I have to order this PPV. Sadly, I have never seen a tables match before, but I have seen a barbed wire match. It was Sabu vs Terry Funk and it was BRUTAL! And AJ vs Samoa Joe only sweetenes the deal :D Chicago_Nut
Really? Ive seen lots. They're pretty much normal tornado (usually) tag matches just a little more hardcore with no pinfalls and endings full of wood chips! :P
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Well I figured that Christian and Monty would be fighting each other... glad to hear that announced.  A mod needs to updated the card.:P
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[QUOTE="DirtyDarren"]Well I figured that Christian and Monty would be fighting each other... glad to hear that announced. A mod needs to updated the card.:P



Well I still haven't found that out yet.
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#49 DirtyDarren
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[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"] [QUOTE="DirtyDarren"]Well I figured that Christian and Monty would be fighting each other... glad to hear that announced. A mod needs to updated the card.:P



Well I still haven't found that out yet.



Oh... sorry about that.  Second time today that I've posted a possible spoiler w/o putting that in there:?
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#50 pariahmap
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tna posted this on there website

UPDATE ON TNA’S FIRST-EVER “BARBED WIRE MASSACRE"

TNAwrestling.com has learned that this Monday afternoon in Orlando, Florida, prior to the Tuesday “iMPACT!” tapings, the TNA production crew will be fitting the six-sided ring with razor wire in preparation for the upcoming “Barbed Wire Massacre” between Abyss and Sabu at “Turning Point”.

The TNA production crew will be charged with setting up the dangerous structure at the Pay-Per-View and is conducting a test-run on Monday. Each member of the ring crew will wear special gloves throughout to avoid any injury. TNA cameras will be on hand to capture the footage, which will air on ‘IMPACT!” prior to the Pay-Per-View.

TNAwrestling.com has also learned that both Sabu and Abyss will be allowed to use barbed wire weapons as well during the bloody and barbaric massacre.

The bout will make wrestling history, as it marks the first time a match where the entire ring is wrapped in barbed wire will air live on Pay-Per-View in the United States.

credit to tna.com