Worst gimmick on SD!/RAW right now?

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#1 hbk91
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SD!

  • Heidenreich used to hang around with Trish on RAW. They both talked about "little Johnny" if I my memory is correct. He then appears on SD! with some sort of psychopath gimmick then reads poems to the crowd and now collects friends. The sad thing is on the WWE site they have offered a friend submit list for Heidenreich where us fans post photos of ourselves and become his friend.
  • Matt Morgan's stuttering gimmick has got to be one of the worst gimmicks I have ever came across on SD! The thing that ticks me off the most is that he was perfectly normal 2 years ago with Lesnar and Nathan Jones. He had blond/light brown hair and now he has dark brown hair and a beard. We haven't forgot who he was yet Tazz and Cole make it out as if he is a new superstar in the buisness.

RAW

  • The Heart Throbs or whatever they are called. They are gay. Period. :|
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SD!

  • Heidenreich used to hang around with Trish on RAW. They both talked about "little Johnny" if I my memory is correct. He then appears on SD! with some sort of psychopath gimmick then reads poems to the crowd and now collects friends. The sad thing is on the WWE site they have offered a friend submit list for Heidenreich where us fans post photos of ourselves and become his friend.
  • Matt Morgan's stuttering gimmick has got to be one of the worst gimmicks I have ever came across on SD! The thing that ticks me off the most is that he was perfectly normal 2 years ago with Lesnar and Nathan Jones. He had blond/light brown hair and now he has dark brown hair and a beard. We haven't forgot who he was yet Tazz and Cole make it out as if he is a new superstar in the buisness.

RAW

  • The Heart Throbs or whatever they are called. They are gay. Period. :|

hbk91

SD!

  • Matt Morgan stuttering gimick
  • Hedienreich acting like a kid. He cud be used so much more
  • Tazz being a commentator. I think that's a gimick
  • MNM's entrance

RAW!

  • I can't think of any
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Matt Morgan because people seen him a few yrs back in 2003,so what was the point of his new gimmick,WWE needs to think before they do something.
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1. Matt Morgan (stupid and lame shuddering and having him act stupid is stupid).

2. MNM (stupid, lame tag-team and gimmick, they became tag-team champions way-way too fast, in my view)

3. Using Diva's period (other than having two women that can actually fight in a match and have a good match).

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we used to have the heart throbs. They were called Billy and Chuck though. They got maried and this entire thing probably ruined Billy Gun's correer. Also chuck polumbo's coreer...where ever the hell he is.
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2. MNM (stupid, lame tag-team and gimmick, they became tag-team champions way-way too fast, in my view)

Link256

WTF? :shock:

They are my favourite tag team so far! Their entrance is really good especially Melina's style with the splits on the ring apron and sliding in. Their attire and look are spot on too. As for their wrestling ability, they work well together and seeing how there are hardly any tag team combos on SD! anymore, they are doing great. I'd like to see more promos' from them all.

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[QUOTE="Link256"]

2. MNM (stupid, lame tag-team and gimmick, they became tag-team champions way-way too fast, in my view)

hbk91

WTF? :shock:

They are my favourite tag team so far! Their entrance is really good especially Melina's style with the splits on the ring apron and sliding in. Their attire and look are spot on too. As for their wrestling ability, they work well together and seeing how there are hardly any tag team combos on SD! anymore, they are doing great. I'd like to see more promos' from them all.

:lol: They're like the only tag team in SD!

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I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

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Eugene- I feel is a very tasteless and discriminatory gimmick
Muhammad Hassan- Exploiting a current event, and very racist
Simon Dean- Go back to Nova
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hBK because He's all like i'm the showstopper. and then loses what's up with that *is shot*
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Matt Morgan's studddddddering.
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[QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="Link256"]

2. MNM (stupid, lame tag-team and gimmick, they became tag-team champions way-way too fast, in my view)

nellyg619

WTF? :shock:

They are my favourite tag team so far! Their entrance is really good especially Melina's style with the splits on the ring apron and sliding in. Their attire and look are spot on too. As for their wrestling ability, they work well together and seeing how there are hardly any tag team combos on SD! anymore, they are doing great. I'd like to see more promos' from them all.

:lol: They're like the only tag team in SD!

Yea, I am sure we will see more than a fair share of matches between MNM vs. Hass/Holly, sense Smackdown! is lacking good tag-teams.

Yea, the Tag-Team division is not exactly awesome on either brand lately, we need more tag-teams on both shows (and good ones).

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I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

mja2k3


i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.
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[QUOTE="Link256"]

2. MNM (stupid, lame tag-team and gimmick, they became tag-team champions way-way too fast, in my view)

hbk91

WTF? :shock:

They are my favourite tag team so far! Their entrance is really good especially Melina's style with the splits on the ring apron and sliding in. Their attire and look are spot on too. As for their wrestling ability, they work well together and seeing how there are hardly any tag team combos on SD! anymore, they are doing great. I'd like to see more promos' from them all.


agreed there entrance is great just because of Melina

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[QUOTE="mja2k3"]

I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

SwimPUNK



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Whatever, instead of saying why this is non-sense again, I will quote myself, because this post below explains why your post is non-sense. I think this post below defends HHH, show why he is alwyas on top, why everyone should respect HHH and at the very least, quit bashing on HHH.

"I think Smackdown! will get Christian and Y2J, but I do think and hope they do not get HHH. He is major- leaguer and belongs on Raw (and has fully earned his spot). Regardless of what most of you think, HHH is great in the ring, knows how to make a crowd hate him with a passion (it is cleary working with most of you on this board), has great mic skills and him leaving Raw, would hurt it.

Remember when Hogan was around in WCW and he was always champion, he was constantly champion just like HHH and they both are like that, because people really hated them and people will watch wrestling just to see when they have lost the World Championship.

"Bottom line, WWE wants you to hate HHH, so you will watch wrestling to see when he finally lost the belt (like they did with Hogan in WCW). You are not post to like or love HHH, you post to hate him and think what you are thinking about him (such as thinking what is WWE thinking having him on top all of time). Personally, I respect HHH for what he has done for wrestling and I can fully see why he is 10 time world champion, because he really is that dam good. I am not the biggest HHH fan, but he knows how to wrestle in the ring and usually does entertain me. So, I do not cheer for HHH and I do not want him to win matches usually, but I do enjoy watching him wrestle in the ring and doing his thing with the mic.

By the way, I do not believe HHH is getting any favors from Vince (you guys are getting real life and story-line mixed up). What do you think Vince cares more about? Having successful company? Or pleasing HHH? Give me break, quit taking credit away from what HHH has done in the ring and realize there is reason he is the 10 time world champion, because he is one the best wrestlers in the business today.

Besides, now that Angle is on Raw, we have another strong heel to be champion. So, maybe HHH will not have the World Championship as much as he use to, so hopefully everyone will quit dogging HHH and give him the respect he fully deserves."

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[QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="mja2k3"]

I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

Link256



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Whatever, instead of saying why this is non-sense again, I will quote myself, because this post below explains why your post is non-sense. I think this post below defends HHH, show why he is alwyas on top, why everyone should respect HHH and at the very least, quit bashing on HHH.

"I think Smackdown! will get Christian and Y2J, but I do think and hope they do not get HHH. He is major- leaguer and belongs on Raw (and has fully earned his spot). Regardless of what most of you think, HHH is great in the ring, knows how to make a crowd hate him with a passion (it is cleary working with most of you on this board), has great mic skills and him leaving Raw, would hurt it.

Remember when Hogan was around in WCW and he was always champion, he was constantly champion just like HHH and they both are like that, because people really hated them and people will watch wrestling just to see when they have lost the World Championship.

"Bottom line, WWE wants you to hate HHH, so you will watch wrestling to see when he finally lost the belt (like they did with Hogan in WCW). You are not post to like or love HHH, you post to hate him and think what you are thinking about him (such as thinking what is WWE thinking having him on top all of time). Personally, I respect HHH for what he has done for wrestling and I can fully see why he is 10 time world champion, because he really is that dam good. I am not the biggest HHH fan, but he knows how to wrestle in the ring and usually does entertain me. So, I do not cheer for HHH and I do not want him to win matches usually, but I do enjoy watching him wrestle in the ring and doing his thing with the mic.

By the way, I do not believe HHH is getting any favors from Vince (you guys are getting real life and story-line mixed up). What do you think Vince cares more about? Having successful company? Or pleasing HHH? Give me break, quit taking credit away from what HHH has done in the ring and realize there is reason he is the 10 time world champion, because he is one the best wrestlers in the business today.

Besides, now that Angle is on Raw, we have another strong heel to be champion. So, maybe HHH will not have the World Championship as much as he use to, so hopefully everyone will quit dogging HHH and give him the respect he fully deserves."



i'm not even giving your post the time of day. Triple H sucks.....the end....no point explaining why he doesn't he sucks. don't bring hogan in this. He sucks too. I don't even watch raw anymore. WWE wants us to hate HH for different reasons then we do. vince cares more about PLEASING HHH....he LOVES HHH....you haven't noticed this yet? Tell me something that he has done good for wrestling that doesn't have a bad afterthought to it. Come on now...
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[QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="mja2k3"]

I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

SwimPUNK



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Whatever, instead of saying why this is non-sense again, I will quote myself, because this post below explains why your post is non-sense. I think this post below defends HHH, show why he is alwyas on top, why everyone should respect HHH and at the very least, quit bashing on HHH.

"I think Smackdown! will get Christian and Y2J, but I do think and hope they do not get HHH. He is major- leaguer and belongs on Raw (and has fully earned his spot). Regardless of what most of you think, HHH is great in the ring, knows how to make a crowd hate him with a passion (it is cleary working with most of you on this board), has great mic skills and him leaving Raw, would hurt it.

Remember when Hogan was around in WCW and he was always champion, he was constantly champion just like HHH and they both are like that, because people really hated them and people will watch wrestling just to see when they have lost the World Championship.

"Bottom line, WWE wants you to hate HHH, so you will watch wrestling to see when he finally lost the belt (like they did with Hogan in WCW). You are not post to like or love HHH, you post to hate him and think what you are thinking about him (such as thinking what is WWE thinking having him on top all of time). Personally, I respect HHH for what he has done for wrestling and I can fully see why he is 10 time world champion, because he really is that dam good. I am not the biggest HHH fan, but he knows how to wrestle in the ring and usually does entertain me. So, I do not cheer for HHH and I do not want him to win matches usually, but I do enjoy watching him wrestle in the ring and doing his thing with the mic.

By the way, I do not believe HHH is getting any favors from Vince (you guys are getting real life and story-line mixed up). What do you think Vince cares more about? Having successful company? Or pleasing HHH? Give me break, quit taking credit away from what HHH has done in the ring and realize there is reason he is the 10 time world champion, because he is one the best wrestlers in the business today.

Besides, now that Angle is on Raw, we have another strong heel to be champion. So, maybe HHH will not have the World Championship as much as he use to, so hopefully everyone will quit dogging HHH and give him the respect he fully deserves."



i'm not even giving your post the time of day. Triple H sucks.....the end....no point explaining why he doesn't he sucks. don't bring hogan in this. He sucks too. I don't even watch raw anymore. WWE wants us to hate HH for different reasons then we do. vince cares more about PLEASING HHH....he LOVES HHH....you haven't noticed this yet? Tell me something that he has done good for wrestling that doesn't have a bad afterthought to it. Come on now... 

Okay? HHH sucks because you said so, whatever! Hogan sucks? I guess you were droped on your head multiple times to makes a stupid statement like that, most would totally disagree with you on that, Trust me! What HHH has done good for wrestling? let see...

1. Had one the most successful groups in wrestling history; D-X

2. Was involved in the main events in Wrestlemania XVI and XX, two of the biggest buy rates for WWE Pay-per-views in history

3. Had one the most popular feuds ever in wrestling history with the Rock

4. Has had been involved in some of the best matches of this generation

5. One the key players of the success of the attitude era

6. Helped make a name out of Randy Orton and Batista, two guys that will be part of the future for the WWE

Simply put, help make WWE(F) what it is today!

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before i answer anything...let me tell you. Hogan was one of the reasons that WCW died. Even NAsh took hogan asside for an hour and explained to him that when he keeps being in the main event wcw loses ratings. And Hogan was like " okay brother...but i'll lose money :| "

Sure he helped orton and batista ...but they were his friends. Sure i'd like to see RVD with a title but wwe just doesn't understand his greatness...if he would ever fight HHH he'd have to job.

Hell yeah he helped make the industry what it is today ( btw the industry isn't good today )

Yes i do agree that DX was a great faction and that he was a key player in the success of the attitude era.

And he shouldn't just make who he wants to. He shouldn't keep clinging to a number one spot. Try to put the other guys over. I'm going to say this again. ....RVD has been in wwe for sometime and i haven't seen him get a chance at HHH or the championship at all...wait...maybe he did...but i haven't seen him doing it. And if he ever fought triple H he jobbed like hell

Triple H contributes to the bastage politics that holds good wwe guys back.

And i have to admit i would pay to see triple H get his ass beat the entire match..i would pay to see him job like hell like others were forced to do to him...

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before i answer anything...let me tell you. Hogan was one of the reasons that WCW died. Even NAsh took hogan asside for an hour and explained to him that when he keeps being in the main event wcw loses ratings. And Hogan was like " okay brother...but i'll lose money :| " Okay, you make a great point there! But that does not mean Hogan sucks (come on, he is legend), he just means he made some bad decsions and did help bring the down fall of WCW.

Sure he helped orton and batista ...but they were his friends. Non the less, he did help them though. Sure i'd like to see RVD with a title but wwe just doesn't understand his greatness...if he would ever fight HHH he'd have to job.

Hell yeah he helped make the industry what it is today ( btw the industry isn't good today )

The bussiness is not as bad as you think (it has been worst, much-much worst). The average rating for Raw currently is 3.5 and has had some high points of 4 million, they are still one top cable shows today, but it still is not the 5-7 million rating they were getting before in the attitude era.

Before the money making attitude era, WWE(F) sawl its worst days and at one point, the rating drop to l.5 million and were in the 2 million range a lot, that is bad and WWE(F) was closer to going down than ever before and WCW was loking like it would win the Monday Night War and kill WWE(F), because of losing a lot of key player to WCW, making stupid decions like making Nash champion for a year and Vince having courts battels to deal with.

Yes i do agree that DX was a great faction and that he was a key player in the success of the attitude era.

And he shouldn't just make who he wants to. He shouldn't keep clinging to a number one spot. Try to put the other guys over. I'm going to say this again. ....RVD has been in wwe for sometime and i haven't seen him get a chance at HHH or the championship at all...wait...maybe he did...but i haven't seen him doing it. And if he ever fought triple H he jobbed like hell

Triple H contributes to the bastage politics that holds good wwe guys back.

And i have to admit i would pay to see triple H get his ass beat the entire match..i would pay to see him job like hell like others were forced to do to him...

SwimPUNK

RVD has gotten plenty of shots at the World Championship (both tittles), but has never won. Do not worry, I think RVD will be champion in WWE, we just have to wait for that day to come. The closest RVD has ever came to being champion is beating the Undertanker for the WWE championship, but the decsion was called back becasue Undertanker had his foot on the rope and RVD went on to lose the match.

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[QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="mja2k3"]

I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

Link256



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Whatever, instead of saying why this is non-sense again, I will quote myself, because this post below explains why your post is non-sense. I think this post below defends HHH, show why he is alwyas on top, why everyone should respect HHH and at the very least, quit bashing on HHH.

"I think Smackdown! will get Christian and Y2J, but I do think and hope they do not get HHH. He is major- leaguer and belongs on Raw (and has fully earned his spot). Regardless of what most of you think, HHH is great in the ring, knows how to make a crowd hate him with a passion (it is cleary working with most of you on this board), has great mic skills and him leaving Raw, would hurt it.

Remember when Hogan was around in WCW and he was always champion, he was constantly champion just like HHH and they both are like that, because people really hated them and people will watch wrestling just to see when they have lost the World Championship.

"Bottom line, WWE wants you to hate HHH, so you will watch wrestling to see when he finally lost the belt (like they did with Hogan in WCW). You are not post to like or love HHH, you post to hate him and think what you are thinking about him (such as thinking what is WWE thinking having him on top all of time). Personally, I respect HHH for what he has done for wrestling and I can fully see why he is 10 time world champion, because he really is that dam good. I am not the biggest HHH fan, but he knows how to wrestle in the ring and usually does entertain me. So, I do not cheer for HHH and I do not want him to win matches usually, but I do enjoy watching him wrestle in the ring and doing his thing with the mic.

By the way, I do not believe HHH is getting any favors from Vince (you guys are getting real life and story-line mixed up). What do you think Vince cares more about? Having successful company? Or pleasing HHH? Give me break, quit taking credit away from what HHH has done in the ring and realize there is reason he is the 10 time world champion, because he is one the best wrestlers in the business today.

Besides, now that Angle is on Raw, we have another strong heel to be champion. So, maybe HHH will not have the World Championship as much as he use to, so hopefully everyone will quit dogging HHH and give him the respect he fully deserves."



i'm not even giving your post the time of day. Triple H sucks.....the end....no point explaining why he doesn't he sucks. don't bring hogan in this. He sucks too. I don't even watch raw anymore. WWE wants us to hate HH for different reasons then we do. vince cares more about PLEASING HHH....he LOVES HHH....you haven't noticed this yet? Tell me something that he has done good for wrestling that doesn't have a bad afterthought to it. Come on now...

Okay? HHH sucks because you said so, whatever! Hogan sucks? I guess you were droped on your head multiple times to makes a stupid statement like that, most would totally disagree with you on that, Trust me! What HHH has done good for wrestling? let see...

1. Had one the most successful groups in wrestling history; D-X

2. Was involved in the main events in Wrestlemania XVI and XX, two of the biggest buy rates for WWE Pay-per-views in history

3. Had one the most popular feuds ever in wrestling history with the Rock

4. Has had been involved in some of the best matches of this generation

5. One the key players of the success of the attitude era

6. Helped make a name out of Randy Orton and Batista, two guys that will be part of the future for the WWE

Simply put, help make WWE(F) what it is today!

U go Link256

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[QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="mja2k3"]

I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

Link256



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Whatever, instead of saying why this is non-sense again, I will quote myself, because this post below explains why your post is non-sense. I think this post below defends HHH, show why he is alwyas on top, why everyone should respect HHH and at the very least, quit bashing on HHH.

"I think Smackdown! will get Christian and Y2J, but I do think and hope they do not get HHH. He is major- leaguer and belongs on Raw (and has fully earned his spot). Regardless of what most of you think, HHH is great in the ring, knows how to make a crowd hate him with a passion (it is cleary working with most of you on this board), has great mic skills and him leaving Raw, would hurt it.

Remember when Hogan was around in WCW and he was always champion, he was constantly champion just like HHH and they both are like that, because people really hated them and people will watch wrestling just to see when they have lost the World Championship.

"Bottom line, WWE wants you to hate HHH, so you will watch wrestling to see when he finally lost the belt (like they did with Hogan in WCW). You are not post to like or love HHH, you post to hate him and think what you are thinking about him (such as thinking what is WWE thinking having him on top all of time). Personally, I respect HHH for what he has done for wrestling and I can fully see why he is 10 time world champion, because he really is that dam good. I am not the biggest HHH fan, but he knows how to wrestle in the ring and usually does entertain me. So, I do not cheer for HHH and I do not want him to win matches usually, but I do enjoy watching him wrestle in the ring and doing his thing with the mic.

By the way, I do not believe HHH is getting any favors from Vince (you guys are getting real life and story-line mixed up). What do you think Vince cares more about? Having successful company? Or pleasing HHH? Give me break, quit taking credit away from what HHH has done in the ring and realize there is reason he is the 10 time world champion, because he is one the best wrestlers in the business today.

Besides, now that Angle is on Raw, we have another strong heel to be champion. So, maybe HHH will not have the World Championship as much as he use to, so hopefully everyone will quit dogging HHH and give him the respect he fully deserves."



i'm not even giving your post the time of day. Triple H sucks.....the end....no point explaining why he doesn't he sucks. don't bring hogan in this. He sucks too. I don't even watch raw anymore. WWE wants us to hate HH for different reasons then we do. vince cares more about PLEASING HHH....he LOVES HHH....you haven't noticed this yet? Tell me something that he has done good for wrestling that doesn't have a bad afterthought to it. Come on now...

Okay? HHH sucks because you said so, whatever! Hogan sucks? I guess you were droped on your head multiple times to makes a stupid statement like that, most would totally disagree with you on that, Trust me! What HHH has done good for wrestling? let see...

1. Had one the most successful groups in wrestling history; D-X

2. Was involved in the main events in Wrestlemania XVI and XX, two of the biggest buy rates for WWE Pay-per-views in history

3. Had one the most popular feuds ever in wrestling history with the Rock

4. Has had been involved in some of the best matches of this generation

5. One the key players of the success of the attitude era

6. Helped make a name out of Randy Orton and Batista, two guys that will be part of the future for the WWE

Simply put, help make WWE(F) what it is today!

U go Link256

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[QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="mja2k3"]

I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

nellyg619



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Whatever, instead of saying why this is non-sense again, I will quote myself, because this post below explains why your post is non-sense. I think this post below defends HHH, show why he is alwyas on top, why everyone should respect HHH and at the very least, quit bashing on HHH.

"I think Smackdown! will get Christian and Y2J, but I do think and hope they do not get HHH. He is major- leaguer and belongs on Raw (and has fully earned his spot). Regardless of what most of you think, HHH is great in the ring, knows how to make a crowd hate him with a passion (it is cleary working with most of you on this board), has great mic skills and him leaving Raw, would hurt it.

Remember when Hogan was around in WCW and he was always champion, he was constantly champion just like HHH and they both are like that, because people really hated them and people will watch wrestling just to see when they have lost the World Championship.

"Bottom line, WWE wants you to hate HHH, so you will watch wrestling to see when he finally lost the belt (like they did with Hogan in WCW). You are not post to like or love HHH, you post to hate him and think what you are thinking about him (such as thinking what is WWE thinking having him on top all of time). Personally, I respect HHH for what he has done for wrestling and I can fully see why he is 10 time world champion, because he really is that dam good. I am not the biggest HHH fan, but he knows how to wrestle in the ring and usually does entertain me. So, I do not cheer for HHH and I do not want him to win matches usually, but I do enjoy watching him wrestle in the ring and doing his thing with the mic.

By the way, I do not believe HHH is getting any favors from Vince (you guys are getting real life and story-line mixed up). What do you think Vince cares more about? Having successful company? Or pleasing HHH? Give me break, quit taking credit away from what HHH has done in the ring and realize there is reason he is the 10 time world champion, because he is one the best wrestlers in the business today.

Besides, now that Angle is on Raw, we have another strong heel to be champion. So, maybe HHH will not have the World Championship as much as he use to, so hopefully everyone will quit dogging HHH and give him the respect he fully deserves."



i'm not even giving your post the time of day. Triple H sucks.....the end....no point explaining why he doesn't he sucks. don't bring hogan in this. He sucks too. I don't even watch raw anymore. WWE wants us to hate HH for different reasons then we do. vince cares more about PLEASING HHH....he LOVES HHH....you haven't noticed this yet? Tell me something that he has done good for wrestling that doesn't have a bad afterthought to it. Come on now... 

Okay? HHH sucks because you said so, whatever! Hogan sucks? I guess you were droped on your head multiple times to makes a stupid statement like that, most would totally disagree with you on that, Trust me! What HHH has done good for wrestling? let see...

1. Had one the most successful groups in wrestling history; D-X

2. Was involved in the main events in Wrestlemania XVI and XX, two of the biggest buy rates for WWE Pay-per-views in history

3. Had one the most popular feuds ever in wrestling history with the Rock

4. Has had been involved in some of the best matches of this generation

5. One the key players of the success of the attitude era

6. Helped make a name out of Randy Orton and Batista, two guys that will be part of the future for the WWE

Simply put, help make WWE(F) what it is today!

U go Link256

HHH sucks because he has gotten stale to the audience. that's why the rock doesn't stay too long.oh yeah RVD had only one title chance and that aginst HHH. I HATE HHH. I HOPE HE GETS EATEN BY A CAR

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[QUOTE="nellyg619"][QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="SwimPUNK"][QUOTE="mja2k3"]

I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

MysticKotenks



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Whatever, instead of saying why this is non-sense again, I will quote myself, because this post below explains why your post is non-sense. I think this post below defends HHH, show why he is alwyas on top, why everyone should respect HHH and at the very least, quit bashing on HHH.

"I think Smackdown! will get Christian and Y2J, but I do think and hope they do not get HHH. He is major- leaguer and belongs on Raw (and has fully earned his spot). Regardless of what most of you think, HHH is great in the ring, knows how to make a crowd hate him with a passion (it is cleary working with most of you on this board), has great mic skills and him leaving Raw, would hurt it.

Remember when Hogan was around in WCW and he was always champion, he was constantly champion just like HHH and they both are like that, because people really hated them and people will watch wrestling just to see when they have lost the World Championship.

"Bottom line, WWE wants you to hate HHH, so you will watch wrestling to see when he finally lost the belt (like they did with Hogan in WCW). You are not post to like or love HHH, you post to hate him and think what you are thinking about him (such as thinking what is WWE thinking having him on top all of time). Personally, I respect HHH for what he has done for wrestling and I can fully see why he is 10 time world champion, because he really is that dam good. I am not the biggest HHH fan, but he knows how to wrestle in the ring and usually does entertain me. So, I do not cheer for HHH and I do not want him to win matches usually, but I do enjoy watching him wrestle in the ring and doing his thing with the mic.

By the way, I do not believe HHH is getting any favors from Vince (you guys are getting real life and story-line mixed up). What do you think Vince cares more about? Having successful company? Or pleasing HHH? Give me break, quit taking credit away from what HHH has done in the ring and realize there is reason he is the 10 time world champion, because he is one the best wrestlers in the business today.

Besides, now that Angle is on Raw, we have another strong heel to be champion. So, maybe HHH will not have the World Championship as much as he use to, so hopefully everyone will quit dogging HHH and give him the respect he fully deserves."



i'm not even giving your post the time of day. Triple H sucks.....the end....no point explaining why he doesn't he sucks. don't bring hogan in this. He sucks too. I don't even watch raw anymore. WWE wants us to hate HH for different reasons then we do. vince cares more about PLEASING HHH....he LOVES HHH....you haven't noticed this yet? Tell me something that he has done good for wrestling that doesn't have a bad afterthought to it. Come on now...

Okay? HHH sucks because you said so, whatever! Hogan sucks? I guess you were droped on your head multiple times to makes a stupid statement like that, most would totally disagree with you on that, Trust me! What HHH has done good for wrestling? let see...

1. Had one the most successful groups in wrestling history; D-X

2. Was involved in the main events in Wrestlemania XVI and XX, two of the biggest buy rates for WWE Pay-per-views in history

3. Had one the most popular feuds ever in wrestling history with the Rock

4. Has had been involved in some of the best matches of this generation

5. One the key players of the success of the attitude era

6. Helped make a name out of Randy Orton and Batista, two guys that will be part of the future for the WWE

Simply put, help make WWE(F) what it is today!

U go Link256

HHH sucks because he has gotten stale to the audience. that's why the rock doesn't stay too long.oh yeah RVD had only one title chance and that aginst HHH. I HATE HHH. I HOPE HE GETS EATEN BY A CAR

You sound like a fan that thinks wrestling is real, okay? (I hope you are joking, if you are not, you have a lot to learn)

Obviously, you do not watch wrestling a lot or you do not watch it enough, because RVD has been is his fair share of championship matches (I can safely say he has had more than just one shot). If you were RVD/wrestling fan, you would have know that. The Rock is not around because of acting/movies, not because of HHH. The Rock has no problem with getting over with the fans, whether they love or hate him.

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I'd have to say HHH gimmick. The whole "Vince is my father-in-law so I get the championship even though I barely wrestle on raw anymore" gimmick

SwimPUNK



i'm sorry but...that's not a gimmick. It's real.

Yeah I know, Iwas just joking. I'm just tired of seeing him champ on Raw and watching his 15 minute promos where he talks about nothing.

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RVD has gotten plenty of shots at the World Championship (both tittles), but has never won. Do not worry, I think RVD will be champion in WWE, we just have to wait for that day to come. The closest RVD has ever came to being champion is beating the Undertanker for the WWE championship, but the decsion was called back becasue Undertanker had his foot on the rope and RVD went on to lose the match.

Link256

RVD's World Title Opportunities:

  1. vs Steve Austin vs Kurt Angle (No Mercy 2001). End of the Invasion kept RVD from getting any kind of follow up.
  2. vs Undertaker for Undisputed Title (Raw 2002). A fun one-time match, Van Dam gets a three count off of Rolling Thunder, but Taker gets his foot on the rope. Heel GM Flair restart the match and RVD loses. Match gets no follow up, though.
  3. vs Triple H for World Heavyweight Title (Unforgiven 2002). Ref gets knocked out, Flair turns heel and hits RVD with sledgehammer and Trips gets the win
  4. Elimination Chamber 1 (Survivor Series 2002). He and Trips start the match. Eliminated by Booker after a botched 5* Star off the chamber that crushes Triple H's throat.
  5. vs Shawn Michaels (Raw 2002). Hits a 5* on Michaels and goes for cover. Triple H returns and pulls RVD out of the ring and Pedigrees him on the floor. Match gets no follow up
  6. vs Triple H (Raw 2003). No DQ stipulation allows Evolution to interfere. One week later, JR calls RVD the "uncrowned champion," the next week he lands RVD with the Kiss of Death nickname "Greatest Superstar to never be World Champion." No follow up.

RVD may have also wrestled Y2J once for the Undisputed Title early on in his reign, but I can't remember if it was for the Title or not. RVD has not recieved one WWE Title opportunity on Smackdown.

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[QUOTE="Link256"]

RVD has gotten plenty of shots at the World Championship (both tittles), but has never won. Do not worry, I think RVD will be champion in WWE, we just have to wait for that day to come. The closest RVD has ever came to being champion is beating the Undertanker for the WWE championship, but the decsion was called back becasue Undertanker had his foot on the rope and RVD went on to lose the match.

The_Dude14

RVD's World Title Opportunities:

  1. vs Steve Austin vs Kurt Angle (No Mercy 2001). End of the Invasion kept RVD from getting any kind of follow up.
  2. vs Undertaker for Undisputed Title (Raw 2002). A fun one-time match, Van Dam gets a three count off of Rolling Thunder, but Taker gets his foot on the rope. Heel GM Flair restart the match and RVD loses. Match gets no follow up, though.
  3. vs Triple H for World Heavyweight Title (Unforgiven 2002). Ref gets knocked out, Flair turns heel and hits RVD with sledgehammer and Trips gets the win
  4. Elimination Chamber 1 (Survivor Series 2002). He and Trips start the match. Eliminated by Booker after a botched 5* Star off the chamber that crushes Triple H's throat.
  5. vs Shawn Michaels (Raw 2002). Hits a 5* on Michaels and goes for cover. Triple H returns and pulls RVD out of the ring and Pedigrees him on the floor. Match gets no follow up
  6. vs Triple H (Raw 2003). No DQ stipulation allows Evolution to interfere. One week later, JR calls RVD the "uncrowned champion," the next week he lands RVD with the Kiss of Death nickname "Greatest Superstar to never be World Champion." No follow up.

RVD may have also wrestled Y2J once for the Undisputed Title early on in his reign, but I can't remember if it was for the Title or not. RVD has not recieved one WWE Title opportunity on Smackdown.

Thank-you for the history back round on RVD. Yea, I know RVD has not even gotten one shot at the WWE championship on Smackdown! But hopefully when he comes back, Smackdown! will use RVD for more than just as Tag-Team wrestler and fighting for the US championship, it is time for RVD go for the WWE championship (World HW championship if he is on Raw) and for him to finally be one of the main-eventer. I do not think RVD fought Y2J either for the WWE championship, I remember he was feuding with the undertanker during Y2J's rein. After that, I remember RVD was fighting for IC championship the rest of Y2J's WWE championhip rein. So, I do not think he ever fought Y2J for the WWE championship, but I could be wrong about that.

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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]

RVD's World Title Opportunities:

  1. vs Steve Austin vs Kurt Angle (No Mercy 2001). End of the Invasion kept RVD from getting any kind of follow up.
  2. vs Undertaker for Undisputed Title (Raw 2002). A fun one-time match, Van Dam gets a three count off of Rolling Thunder, but Taker gets his foot on the rope. Heel GM Flair restart the match and RVD loses. Match gets no follow up, though.
  3. vs Triple H for World Heavyweight Title (Unforgiven 2002). Ref gets knocked out, Flair turns heel and hits RVD with sledgehammer and Trips gets the win
  4. Elimination Chamber 1 (Survivor Series 2002). He and Trips start the match. Eliminated by Booker after a botched 5* Star off the chamber that crushes Triple H's throat.
  5. vs Shawn Michaels (Raw 2002). Hits a 5* on Michaels and goes for cover. Triple H returns and pulls RVD out of the ring and Pedigrees him on the floor. Match gets no follow up
  6. vs Triple H (Raw 2003). No DQ stipulation allows Evolution to interfere. One week later, JR calls RVD the "uncrowned champion," the next week he lands RVD with the Kiss of Death nickname "Greatest Superstar to never be World Champion." No follow up.

RVD may have also wrestled Y2J once for the Undisputed Title early on in his reign, but I can't remember if it was for the Title or not. RVD has not recieved one WWE Title opportunity on Smackdown.

Link256

Thank-you for the history back round on RVD. Yea, I know RVD has not even gotten one shot at the WWE championship on Smackdown! But hopefully when he comes back, Smackdown! will use RVD for more than just as Tag-Team wrestler and fighting for the US championship, it is time for RVD go for the WWE championship (World HW championship if he is on Raw) and for him to finally be one of the main-eventer. I do not think RVD fought Y2J either for the WWE championship, I remember he was feuding with the undertanker during Y2J's rein. After that, I remember RVD was fighting for IC championship the rest of Y2J's WWE championhip rein. So, I do not think he ever fought Y2J for the WWE championship, but I could be wrong about that.

After his promo at One Night Stand and RVD's honest critiques of WWE's involvement prior to the show, I expect that RVD will either finally get a real push (God I hope so) or be jobbed out to Velocity for the remainder of his contract.

As for Jericho, I believe RVD was Jericho's first or second opponent after his Undisputed Title victory at Vengeance, before his feud with the Rock for Royal Rumble 2002 began. However, I can't say for certain whether it happened and whether or not it was for the title. It was definatly not a real feud or given any real build-up, if it even happened.