WWEv Weekly - RAW, ECW, iMPACT!, SmackDown: WEEK 33

WWE Monday Night RAW

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ECW on Sci-Fi

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TNA iMPACT!

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WWE SmackDown

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Did I mention how much I hate broken GlitchSpot?

^ Well duh, alot of people saw that coming.tman93

Err; I don't see any posts here speculating Triple H will appear on Raw tonight. It may seem obvious to you, but this news maybe new to some people here ;).

I am going to force myself to watch Raw tonight without changing the channel and try to approach it with an open mind and see if I am entertained, because I'm bout sick of WWE and their **** that they call sports entertainment. Its an MSG show, so WWE is actually going to be trying and ought to give me a good idea if things are going in a direction that'll be worth my time.

The banner does not inspire confidence.

I really wish I could bribe the crowd to crap all over all things McMahon and Triple H tonight. It might not change anything in the long run, but having WWE's home base turn on these two would make my day, possibly my week.

I am going to force myself to watch Raw tonight without changing the channel and try to approach it with an open mind and see if I am entertained, because I'm bout sick of WWE and their **** that they call sports entertainment. Its an MSG show, so WWE is actually going to be trying and ought to give me a good idea if things are going in a direction that'll be worth my time.

The banner does not inspire confidence.

I really wish I could bribe the crowd to crap all over all things McMahon and Triple H tonight. It might not change anything in the long run, but having WWE's home base turn on these two would make my day, possibly my week.

The_Dude14

I was asking myself the same questiion after he beat Sandman with the Steam Roller. Originally it was the Green Bay Plunge and that's what it was going to stay as but because of the risk of injury he changed to some sort of neckbreaker which didn't last long. Then he switched to the Kenton Bomb (Swanton Bomb). And now he's just been winning with random stuff (the knee to Lashey, that top rope reverse neckbreaker to Super Crazy, the steam roller to Sandman etc.).

Also I completely agree with your Cryme Tyme comment. As much as I hate the whole ghetto rap scene, the way they deliver on the mic is just so entertaining. Not to mention the crowd loves them.

In my opinion, WWE Idol was terrible. I don't care about Lillian or Jillian or whoever -- I wanted more contestants like Iron Sheik(who also should've sang :P), Nikolai, JBL, etc... That segment gets a thumbs down from me.

Also, I thought that when Flair was in Vince's office earlier it was hilarious. At the beginning of the show, my brothers and I were laughing at the possibility of Vince being 3 or 4 years old when he fathered Flair, and sure enough, they went with it. Flair's facial expressions were priceless, too.

Hate how they treat Haas(and Benjamin) forcing him to job to Rhodes.

On the subject of Haas, what ever happened to his years ago, submission move called the Haas of Pain?

Hate how they treat Haas(and Benjamin) forcing him to job to Rhodes.

On the subject of Haas, what ever happened to his years ago, submission move called the Haas of Pain?

mrgab

And idol did stink..

And HHH didnt appear...

this is kinda a bad Raw.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]

Hate how they treat Haas(and Benjamin) forcing him to job to Rhodes.

On the subject of Haas, what ever happened to his years ago, submission move called the Haas of Pain?

tman93

Dominated? Was more of an even steven match, which it was a job to let a good wrestler in Haas lose to a rookie that doesnt impress me yet.

Also, is Estrada ever coming back? And will he manage Umaga again?

Wow that idol was terrible, although I did get a chuckle when Regal talked about Santino's(sp?) wrestling ablilty.

Flair was hilarious in Vince's office and at ringside in the opening segment, I was expecting him to burst out laughing during it.

Missed Cody and Haas

Snitsky squash was about what I was expecting

Simmons and Maria date? I'm going to Raw next week and I can't wait for that :roll:

A little upset HHH didn't show, but something related to that about 12 PM today I saw DirectTV advertising Summerslam and showing HHH and Booker which at that point I'm pretty sure it wasn't announced. Just something I thought I'd share.

MRGAB:Also, is Estrada ever coming back? And will he manage Umaga again?

I'm pretty sure I saw him by ringside in the opening segment, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Holy crap, I cannot think of words to describe how much I hate this "paternity angle."

And did anyone see an acknowledgementof Crush's passing? I didn't, but I got their in the middle of their McMahonamania Video. Did they give him a graphic?

I felt like I wasted 8 hours of my life watching that first hour of Raw. It was ****ing awful. It was so ****ing awful, that Stephanie McMahon making an appearance with a microphone doesn't even register as a negative and her voice kills kittens.

And I hate to go against the grain here, but I think Cryme Tyme is awful. They are terrible in the ring, particularly the big one. These guys are going to be feuding with Cade and Murdoch, who have nothing going for them without tha Hardys, while London and Kendrick Heat it up. They suck.

The second hour wasn't too bad.

The Boogeyman's appearance drew a chuckle. I far prefer him doing stuff like that than wrestling.

WWE Idol actually drew a couple of chuckles, as well, particularly Foley. Volkoff was a welcome blast for the past (One of my fonder memories is Wrestlemania VI, where the Hart Foundation interrupt his singing and win the fastest Tag team match I've ever seen), as was Sheik.

I get the feeling this'll all lead to Farooq vs Santino somewhere down the line. That'll undoubtably steal the show.

I can't help but think the only reason Triple H didn't return tonight was because everyone expected him to. Even I think he should have returned tonight. Instead they officially announce the worst kept secret in the world and seemed to piss off a lot of people in the Garden, who also seemed to think he was returing.

They also pissed off everyone else because we were forced to listen to Grisham for 30 minutes.

I think the best thing about the King Booker gimmick is when he intentionally lets it slip into Booker T.

Orton also gave an effective promo, which shockingly didn't overstay its welcome.

Main event was decent and literally was the only quality wrestling to be found on the show. I think it was an effective Cena-Orton Teaser and probably an effective teaser for Umaga-Carlito, giving you a little taste of what they'll bring, without giving away much at all. Cena's ability to get beat on for 10 minutes and magically recover completely in under 7 seconds is getting annoying... again.

And its a good thing that they showed all those Randy Orton video packages, because outside of his promo, he has done nothing but look like a complete ****y since he became #1 Contender. In the long run, I'm not sure that's a bad thing, because this has not become an "against all odds" deal. However, they have done absolutely nothing to make me more excited for the match. Compared to the build they gave Lashley-Cena, Cena-Orton hasn't got **** going for it. It is obvious there are far more important things going on than Cena-Orton.

[QUOTE="tman93"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

Hate how they treat Haas(and Benjamin) forcing him to job to Rhodes.

On the subject of Haas, what ever happened to his years ago, submission move called the Haas of Pain?

mrgab

Dominated? Was more of an even steven match, which it was a job to let a good wrestler in Haas lose to a rookie that doesnt impress me yet.

Also, is Estrada ever coming back? And will he manage Umaga again?

I might be wrong but I coulda sworn I saw Estrada in the crowd of superstars at the beginning of Raw. Now that Umaga is a face, I doubt he'll be managing him again.

Terrible show, as far as I am concerned.

The only positives factors from this Raw were William Regal's comments during WWE idol (which, all told, probably lasted only minute or less in time), promo betweeen Ron Simmons and Santino (not as good as last week, however, I felt as if it was decent affair regardless of that), surpsingly decent promo from Randy Orton and well... that is about it. Main event may (or may not) have been enjoyable - I do not know - the only thing I know isby that point, I no longer cared.

Everything else, for my liking, more or less, felt as if were either boring and/or stale.

Also, goes without saying, at least from what I seen, best way describe the wrestling element would be (as Regal put matters in unrelated context), "abortion." Again, at least from I have seen, in that regard, I find it to be sad state affairs when I can honestly say I remember having more fun, back in the day, with the likes of couple of "C" shows within WCW Saturday Night or WWE Heat, over the so called "flagship" of the WWE.

Also, what happend to Jeff Hardy? Did he really get fired?tman93

I know a lot of you guys thought that last weeks Raw was like THE BEST EVER which I still can't get over Stargazmo69

I didn't really pay attention to RAW a lot, but from what I saw, it was watchabe entertainment. The wresling wasn't really there, but there was 5x more of it than last week. I'm actually more objective and more respectful to the product than most of you, who have such high expectations that nothing will make you guys happy. You know, just a thought :roll:

I'm actually more objective and more respectful to the product than most of you, who have such high expectations that nothing will make you guys happy. You know, just a thought :roll: Chicago_Nut

[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I'm actually more objective and more respectful to the product than most of you, who have such high expectations that nothing will make you guys happy. You know, just a thought :roll: hbk91

Oh and BTW, I edit my posts a lot cause I'm just thinkin on the fly and sometimes I'm forcing myself to write stuff and then I edit it out cause maybe it sucks or it's offensive.

You've changed your ways...a lot.

hbk91

As has the entire union, save for a few people. I like how it was cool to like TNA, then cool to hate TNA, spiralling into "Let's not talk about anything but ROH". It was cool to hate on Cena, then one day it started being cool to hate on the people hating on Cena(same can be said with the WWE). It's kinda bizarre. Is Undertaker awesome now? I wanna make sure I keep up with the times.

Anyway, Chicago_Nut, I just said that stuff about you last week as a joke, for the most part...even though I still think you liked some things on last week's RAW way too much.

I know I said I'm more objective about WWE n' all, but this ECW was bad.

The beginning was good, and Punk's best promo in WWE to date. But then, it completely went downhill. They buried the only ECW wrestlers who are going to be at Summerslam. Just bad booking all around. Nothing else to say, ECW was just bad.

Don't give punk the mic again...ever again.The_Great_One2

Don't give you a keyboard again...ever again. Punk was good on the mic tonight, what were you watching? What really annoys me is John Morrison on the mic. Listening to him makes me so angry for some reason, he's just so bad. Not only that, but as of late he's been botching moves left and right. Pretty bad ECW all around, and even worse comment by The_Great_One.

[QUOTE="The_Great_One2"]Don't give punk the mic again...ever again.Stargazmo69

Don't give you a keyboard again...ever again. Punk was good on the mic tonight, what were you watching? What really annoys me is John Morrison on the mic. Listening to him makes me so angry for some reason, he's just so bad. Not only that, but as of late he's been botching moves left and right. Pretty bad ECW all around, and even worse comment by The_Great_One.

I didn't really pay attention to RAW a lot, but from what I saw, it was watchabe entertainment. The wresling wasn't really there, but there was 5x more of it than last week. I'm actually more objective and more respectful to the product than most of you, who have such high expectations that nothing will make you guys happy. You know, just a thought :roll:

Chicago_Nut

Whether or not that was directed towards me, I shall answer.

In regards to the wrestling part of the show, I am not expecting much. Average to below average wrestling is completely (and utterly) acceptable and understandable. Instead, from what I seen on Monday Night, outside of the main event (because, as I have already said, I did not watch it), practically everything else was garbage. I am sorry, however, when I can honestly say that I have seen "C" show broadcast have better wrestling than so called "flagship" or "A" show, I am having problems. Edit: If the "entertainment" part of the show would have been picking up the slack, this would have been acceptable. For my liking, in general, it did not.

Also, I am sorry, however, I am sick of seeing Vince McMahon. To be simple, I have been sick of seeing the guy since way back in 2000-2001 when his "affair" with Trish started and for the most part, that feeling has not changed. For the record, for guy I am sick of seeing, does not help matters when, literally, he is taking up about anywhere from tenth to quarter of the show's time.

...and seeing how these two things were biggest focus of the show, I think my comments of calling the show "terrible" was not completely unreasonable.

In regards to everything else...

-Personally, I really enjoyed Booker-Lawler feud - that is - until they started to wrestle.

-I am sorry, however, in general, I did not enjoy "WWE idol." Jillians singing was lame and I have never been fan of Volkoff or Shiek. Segment between Simmions and Sanito was good, however, it was only small portion of the skit, something of which probably could have been accomplish through other methods.

-Nothing will make me happy? So, my past comments about being in favor of Umaga's face turn (for the record, I practically mark out for it), WWE Dating Game, Santio's new direction and William Regal's Role as General Manager, do not count? I do not have high expectations (having high expectations would be overly pointing out the negatives in everything, even in the things I enjoy. Last time I checked, for the most part, I have not done that). No, rather, it is that there are simply more negatives than positives, at the moment, happening on Raw. I do not know about you, however, when I think of "enjoyment," I am thinking the positives will surpass the negatives --- not the other way around.

Edit 2: Even if I was harsh in my comments saying this week's Raw was "terrible," at best, I do not see how most anyone could say this show was anything higher than below average to average. For the record, even if that is the case, that is not saying much, as far as I am concerned.

That was a good ECW I thought. But im so mad about the fact that, when was the last time Tommy Dreamer won a singles match not via being curshed into DQ?

I feel like all the comedy has done nothing but feed into theCenahate over the last 18 months for him. He's not funny. No one's laughing. They'rebooooing. He's clearly not Austin and will never invoke the same kind of reaction out of the crowds in thebabyfaceroll as Stone Cold can and has done in his run as champ. That's made abundantly clear in the segment that airs on Saturday Night.

gqman2121_basic

Personally, I think problem with John Cena is that lot of his stuff feels forced, whether it be through his words or facial expressions. The thing that made The Rock great, I think, was not necessarily what he was saying --- it was how he was saying. He knew how to dictate pace and emotion, where as Cena, comes off as being too strong with lot of his stuff.

That was a good ECW I thought. But im so mad about the fact that, when was the last time Tommy Dreamer won a singles match not via being curshed into DQ?

tman93

How stupid to have a first blood match with a guy who wears a mask.mrgab

WWE had one with Kane against Austin in 1998. So stop bashing TNA for no reason. At least come up with some valid points. Here's a valid point-

TNA>WWE

'Nuff said.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]How stupid to have a first blood match with a guy who wears a mask.The_Great_One2

WWE had one with Kane against Austin in 1998. So stop bashing TNA for no reason. At least come up with some valid points. Here's a valid point-

TNA>WWE

'Nuff said.

Um where are you coming from? Didnt say anything about TNA and bashing it. Is it 1998? Just saw this match tonight, and commented on it. Dont be so sensitive, not every negative comment about a specific match is a bash about the entirity of TNA.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]How stupid to have a first blood match with a guy who wears a mask.The_Great_One2

WWE had one with Kane against Austin in 1998. So stop bashing TNA for no reason. At least come up with some valid points. Here's a valid point-

TNA>WWE

'Nuff said.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]How stupid to have a first blood match with a guy who wears a mask.The_Great_One2

WWE had one with Kane against Austin in 1998. So stop bashing TNA for no reason. At least come up with some valid points. Here's a valid point-

TNA>WWE

'Nuff said.

Get out. You contribute nothing but trash to this board.

That Kane vs Khali match almost made me weep at how horrible their wrestling was. I don't understand how WWE thinks that either of them are main event material right now. I'd rather watch Hornswoggle beat Jamie Noble again, rather than watch the fight of the non-wrestlers named Khali and Kanebatistafan99

I wouldn't call Kane a "non-wrestler" but Khali cannot wrestle at all. That match was atrocious, as I'm sure Khali vs. Batista at SummerSlam will be too. It's a shame what has happened to SmackDown's main event scene.

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]That Kane vs Khali match almost made me weep at how horrible their wrestling was. I don't understand how WWE thinks that either of them are main event material right now. I'd rather watch Hornswoggle beat Jamie Noble again, rather than watch the fight of the non-wrestlers named Khali and KaneRage11

I wouldn't call Kane a "non-wrestler" but Khali cannot wrestle at all. That match was atrocious, as I'm sure Khali vs. Batista at SummerSlam will be too. It's a shame what has happened to SmackDown's main event scene.

Well Kane's career right now isn't so good. He's becoming more sloppy in the ring.