WWEv Weekly - RAW, ECW, iMPACT!, SmackDown: WEEK 34

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#1 Jackov
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WWE Monday Night RAW

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ECW on Sci-Fi

BANNER UNAVAILABLE

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TNA iMPACT!

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WWE Friday Night SmackDown

BANNER UNAVAILABLE

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anybody know if Raw is gonna be decent tonight? Is Kennedy being revelaed as the son?
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anybody know if Raw is gonna be decent tonight?iloverikku11
I dunno, no one really does. Its kinda the beauty of live TV. But if I were to guess, no, it won't be.

Is Kennedy being revelaed as the son?iloverikku11
Nothing is certain, yet. I'm guessing we've got at least another month of this BS before we get anywhere. Also, I'm not sure whether it'll be Kennedy. I stand by my reasoning that the only reason Triple H didn't return last week is because everyone expected him to and MSG certainly seemed to think it'd be Kennedy too when they teased it, so it wouldn't shock me to see them go another way to "swerve" us.

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Well, that's classy.

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- WWE is hoping to use tonight's edition of RAW to get a lot of people to buy Summerslam on Sunday. Getting PPV buyrates up is a major priority for WWE right now.

- WWE.com looks at 14 possible candidates for Mr. McMahon's "child" here.

Credit: PWInsider.com
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#5 kayne2000
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judging by this my streak of current weeks without watching raw is going to continue
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#6 mrgab
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Was thinking vince would had put Cena in a handicap match vs the tag champs, o well, we get to see the endearing Snitzky
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Oh, I really hope this leads to Vince McMahonand son vs John Cena! That'd be so sweet! Completely different than anything we've ever seen before.

I really should have known the only way Cena-Orton would get to be treated for what it is, the main event of Summerslam, would be when Vince involved himself in it.

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Hmm, odd cutting to commercial while Vince was rambling on and on and on and on. I suspect someone just got fired.

Its been a few years since Val Venis appeared on Raw and didn't get his ass kicked.

EDIT: Wow, Cryme Tyme is doing so little to win me over.

And London and Kendrick are so today what the Rockers were 20 years ago.

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#9 mrgab
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I can see an imposter HHH used for this Booker thing coming up... havent seen a midget in a while.
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This is really dumb that Vince will most likely get involved with Cena vs. Ortan and screw Cena, why couldnt they just leave it be and letOrtan win.

Good tag team match though.

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#11 mrgab
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Ok, lets just make the IC match a triple threat as nobody beats Umaga one on one unless your name is Cena or Lashley.

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Ok, lets just make the IC match a triple threat as nobody beats Umaga one on one unless your name is Cena or Lashley.mrgab
2 for 2, you're on top of your game tonight.

That match did nothing to answer my concerns about either Kennedy or Carlito in the ring. That match was boring as hell, heel vs heel or not. Edge vs Orton was 20 times better. Hopefully, Umaga will spice things up considerably.

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[QUOTE="mrgab"] Ok, lets just make the IC match a triple threat as nobody beats Umaga one on one unless your name is Cena or Lashley.The_Dude14

2 for 2, you're on top of your game tonight.

That match did nothing to answer my concerns about either Kennedy or Carlito in the ring. That match was boring as hell, heel vs heel or not. Edge vs Orton was 20 times better. Hopefully, Umaga will spice things up considerably.

One can always hope for Kennedy to win the IC title?

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#14 mrgab
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Darn Orton got the last hit before the PPV, means Cena will retain :(
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- WWE is hoping to use tonight's edition of RAW to get a lot of people to buy Summerslam on Sunday. Getting PPV buyrates up is a major priority for WWE right now.Link256
They failed. This show did nothing to make me more likely to shell out $40 for that show. I think Summerslam has potential, but that show did nothing to amplify that. I'm probably even a little less excited. Raw sucked.
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Darn Orton got the last hit before the PPV, means Cena will retain :(mrgab
Exactly. I hope no one is happy that Cena got beat tonight, why does WWE do that every.... single.... time though? Mabye let them win and then win in the PPV for ONCE? But no, this is WWE.
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#17 hbk91
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RAW really was awful this week. Instead of listing out all what was wrong, and boy Regal's charisma tonight amongst seeing Snitsky in the main-event made it what it was, there were some good parts of the show that deserved brownie points. It's nice to see Santino developing his character and charisma while he's out on injury. There were some hilarious sketches played out yet I'm not feeling Ron Simmons' going beyond 'Damn!' and rhyming every other word to that phrase. I really enjoyed what we saw between Carlito and Kennedy since it looked like things were getting stiff between the two which added a totally different element to their match, especially since we don't really see that level of intensity that much between two workers on the average RAW show.

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Raw sucks every week to most of you guys here. It puzzles me why you guys waste 2 hours every week watching what you describe to be such a horrid program.

I believe this Raw did a decent job setting the scene for SummerSlam. There was very little on the McMahon child storyline, and other than the Santino/Simmons/Maria/Jillian Hall segments, the rest was setting up SummerSlam. Kennedy vs. Carlito was good, and I guarantee you one of them will walk out Intercontinental champ at SummerSlam(most likely by pinning the other, I don't see either getting a pinfall victory over Umaga). William Regal as GM is really proving to be a great move, as his mic work is very good, I didn't like the idea at first but they certainly have proved me wrong. I think they are doing a great job easing into Triple H's return on Sunday, King Booker was doing a great job as heel. Although I didn't understand why Tazz was made out to look like such a wuss just standing there while Booker and Sharmell harrassed JR. In addition, you had 2 more decent matches in Cody Rhodes vs. Shelton Benjamin, and Murdoch/Cade vs. London/Kendrick. I wouldn't call this Raw "great" but I didn't think it was bad at all.

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While I some problems with the the opening segment, I enjoyed it:

Randy Orton: delivered on the points he needed to and I thought him and Vince McMahon had some interesting chemistry.

Vince McMahon: more or less, same as Orton. Plus, I thought he had some good chemistry happening with Cena. However, with that being said, my problem is that, I ask, why in the world was Vince McMahon doing all of the talking for Orton? That, combined with the fact they had Orton exit the ring when Cena hit the ring, lead for feeling that Orton was more of after-thought. Considering the fact that Cena and Orton are the ones feuding here, not Cena and McMahon, I consider that to be problem. However, the same time, considering the quality of the segment, and that Orton, regardless of that, was still able to accomplish, more or less,what he needed to, I am willing to be bit forgiving. Though, in turn, what I am not willing forgive is, unless I am missing something here (if I am, I apologize in advance) is the complete lack of explanation on how Vince McMahon knows his "child" is male. Call me crazy, however, I would consider to be significant plot point and yet --- there was no explanation? He simply stated things as if they were, some how, self-evident, without explanation to us on how he obtain this information. For me, that hurts the angle, from logic standpoint.

John Cena: surprisingly enough, in general, I would say that on rare occasion, he was able to strike the right kind of emotion and tone.

Other than that --- I thought Cena slapping Vince in the face was kind of weak. Punch or FU would have seemed more appropriate. Though, to be fair, I appreciate the fact that Vince showed little bit of continuity, by selling it for the rest of the segment and the one follow that.

In regards to the women's tag-team match, seems kind of redundant at this point. I mean, at times, seems as if we are having one of these things almost every other week. In short, I would describe as being, more or less, women's version of the handicap match. The wrestling itself was nothing special. In way, probably good idea that it was kept short.

In regards to the Regal announcement, while useful, I think it would have made more sense to book it after the match, not before.

It was good to see Val Venis make appearance on Raw that did not involve his ass being kicked and to be honest, the bit where Daivari put his hat (or whatever its called) on Vince McMahon drew chuckle. Also, I really appreciate the continuity references from Coach, even daring to go far as back as last year, mention guy WWE has not seen in almost year.

I though was Cody-Benjamin was slightly more entertaining than Cody-Haas from last week. Also, some what related note, I appreciate and enjoy the way they are booking Cody. While he is, so far, winning all of his matches that do not involve Randy Orton,not only is barely accomplish these victories, however, seems as if he is doing so by sheer luck. Considering the fact Haas and Benjaim are veterans, where as Cody is rookie,the way he is being pushed is logical. In another words, unlike the usual "complete domination" treatment that WWE will usual gives to its rookie superstars in recent years, Cody is having to, slowly but surely, work on getting better.

As always, London and Kendrick are entertaining and it was good to see them on the winning side of things. From wrestling perspective, for my liking, they were the highlight of the show.My only wish is that there appearances on Raw would be the standard, not the exception.As far as Cryme Tyme is concerned, having them talk on the mic, while match is talking place, seems kind of rushed and uneven. Reminds too much of TNA.

Segment Between Simmons, Maria, Santino and Jillian was decent. I appreciate the fresh setting and amusing ending. Though, with that being said, the gimmick of Simmons saying "damn" and words that rhyme with that is starting to wear thin, for my liking.Other than that, I am still enjoying Santino and once again, while it was brief, I appreciate the fact WWE (Santino, in this instance) showed some more continuity.

King Booker segment, itself, I thought, was nothing special. As in, it was not really "good" or "bad" --- just kind of there. However, as always, I enjoyed the performance from the man himself, especially during the parts where "Booker T" character was "slipping" into the equation.

The match between Carlito and Kennedy felt boring and uneven. Did not help matters, either, that this was heel vs. heel match. Beyond the some what recent match between Orton and Edge, in all honesty, I can not think of the last time that worked, on legit level. Other than that --- this cannot mentioned enough. I appreciate WWE showing some more continuity, this time with Kennedy. Normally, WWE would want you to forget about something such as Umaga loosing to Lashley, however, not tonight. Kennedy mentioned it and in all honesty, I do not think Umaga was critical damaged because of it. After all, everyone is "human," even "monsters" along the lines of Umaga.

Snitsky's promo was surprisingly good, especially for what is was. In short, I felt the guy was not only able to strike the right tone and emotion for his character, however, for the situation at hand. Too bad there is not character there to match what was coming out of his mouth because if he could produce more of that kind of work, I think could potential be over as legit heel.

The main event match, I thought, was decent. I would say it was probably, more or less, around the same range of enjoyment as London/Kendrick vs. Cade/Murdoch match was from earlier. Booking wise, while I am not really fan of Snitsky as character, I appreciate and enjoyed the fact that kept both men looking strong, without sacrificing Snitsky to Cena or having Cena give unrealistic rub to Snitsky. This is the kind of rare occasion where I would say not only DQ ending acceptable, however, I would go as far as to say it was necessary.

At the end of day, despite the obvious flaws, I would say I enjoyed last night's episode of Raw. Not great, but I would go as far as to say there was good show to be had. The wrestling was acceptable and the entertainment was decent, two things that I thought, were improved from last week. In addition, as of late, while not perfect by any means, WWE and company has been getting better-and-better about not only giving us dose of continuity - however - giving us more of it. Personally, in that regard, on this night, I thought they were better than then they had been in long time.

On top of everything else, for my liking, I felt as if most everyone had direction, clear one at that --- another important part of wrestling show, as far as I am concerned.

That, and I really appreciate the fact that, for whatever reason, WWE decided to leave senior citizen's club out of tonight's events. While, in general, I find most of those guys to be entertaining, most of them do little to nothing to advance the product as whole. For that matter, as far as I am concerned, advancing the product is something of which should be one of the top properties in any wrestling product, whether it be WWE, TNA, ROH or anyone else out there. At the end of the day, in regards to practically every member of the old folks home, I would say "less is more."

Bottom line: while things could be better, as far as I am concerned, this is more along the lines of the kind product, on Raw side of things, WWE needs to be producing.

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#22 iloverikku11
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people kept messing up on the mic, all night. it was funny.
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#23 Stargazmo69
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Well I went to go see SuperBad last night instead of watching Raw, and judging by a lot of these comments I think I made the right decision. Although I am a little bummed I missed Kennedy & Carlito.
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Well I went to go see SuperBad last night instead of watching Raw, and judging by a lot of these comments I think I made the right decision. Although I am a little bummed I missed Kennedy & Carlito. Stargazmo69
You're really not. It was not good. Hopefully, they'll have a better performance at the PPV with Umaga in the mix.
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Last night's edition of WWE Monday Night Raw scored a 3.8 rating, with hours of 3.7 and 3.9. This is the third straight week the show has scored 3.8.

Credit: F4Wonline.com
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HAhahaha CM Punk is my hero. Reppin sXe wooo.

And when has The Miz become a main eventer? Wtf?

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#27 The_Dude14
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HAhahaha CM Punk is my hero. Reppin sXe wooo.

And when has The Miz become a main eventer? Wtf?

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They need someone to make the Boogeyman look better by comparison.
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#28 Chicago_Nut
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This was a damn good ECW. Makes RAW look like the C show in comparison, which is sad. Honestly, I found everything good about tonight's show, except the Miz, who can't sell nor wrestle for that matter. Daddy V vs Dreamer was fun, a good way too waste time without being bored, Burke vs Balls was good and finally Balls gets a win, and the main event was a great TV match.
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For once I agree with Chicago Nut, I thought ECW was damn good. The main event was terrific IMO and I'm glad Morrison picked up the win over Punk. Miz needs to go though...for ever...and never come back.
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#30 Chicago_Nut
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For once I agree with Chicago NutStargazmo69
Gee, thanks :P

It's about the RAW being good thing, right? For the record, this week's RAW was pretty meh, the crowd was boring.

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Man, Punk was all over the place in that main event, in a good way. That's one of the few times in his WWE run that he's really gotten me marking out. This was an excellent night for Punk.

And somewhere along the line, Mizanin stopped sucking nearly as bad as I remember.

And if you subscribe to Booking 101, Summerslam's going to be CM Punk's night. Regardless, Punk and Nitro have really gotten me interested in their match. They seem to be getting more comfortable and creative with each other every time out and I hope they can deliver, to steal a phrase JBL will undoubtably use 75 times on Sunday, "with the lights on bright" at Summerslam.

This really was a good ECW. They continue to give Big Daddy V the Snitzky-Henry-Khali treatment, with the interesting caveat being that Big Daddy V hasn't been completely awful. That match was fun. Burke-Balls was better than Kennedy-Carlito and Balls gets a rare win. They touched on Stevie-Thorne, managed tomanage McMahon's unavoidable involvement, but focus was kept squarely on the match that matters and building the interest in that match.

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#32 Stargazmo69
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Hahaha I'm just teasin, but yeah word on the street is that this weeks raw was teh crap. Raw has been going down hill lately IMO but hopefully after SS when Orton wins the title Raw will stop sucking.
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Hahaha I'm just teasin, but yeah word on the street is that this weeks raw was teh crap. Raw has been going down hill lately IMO but hopefully after SS when Orton wins the title Raw will stop sucking. Stargazmo69
He wont win, he got the last shot on Raw, you know predicablewwe. So I hear ECW was good, I started a tape, but didnt make Big Daddy V vs. Deamer.

An ECW original won a match whos name isnt RVD????? This is crazy!!!! AND IT WAS BALLS MAHONEY!!!?!?!?!?! Now Tommy Dreamer just needs a win....

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I missed ECW.

In all honesty, I stop caring about the brand. For my liking, the problem is that while the show has good portion of solid heels, there are not really any faces that I am to get behind.

That, and personally, while they have some interesting chemistry, I am tired all of these constant Morrison-Punk matches. Though, to be honest, probably does not help matters that, in general, I am not fan of either one of these guys.

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If anyone has a screen cap of the Divas Battle Royal SummerSlam splash, please PM me.
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I missed ECW.

In all honesty, I stop caring about the brand. For my liking, the problem is that while the show has good portion of solid heels, there are not really any faces that I am to get behind.

That, and personally, while they have some interesting chemistry, I am tired all of these constant Morrison-Punk matches. Though, to be honest, probably does not help matters that, in general, I am not fan of either one of these guys.

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ECW is the only brand that I can actually tolerate at this point. Something about it just makes it so much more entertaining then the garbage Raw and Smackdown spew out. My theory is because it's only 1 hour they feel that they have to get in more wrestling then BS talking segments thus (to me) a far more entertaining end result. Not having to worry about how they're going to waste an hour with pointless segments like game shows and other trash like that really is a breath of fresh air IMO. Not to mention I am a huge Punk fan. I do agree that the Morrison and Punk matches are getting a tad bit old, but every match that they have gets better everytime, and I'm sure their fued will be over after SS. Hopefully Elijah Burke or Tommy Dreamer will be in contention for it after Punk wins at SS.

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#37 mrgab
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Saw parts of ECW, and didnt care for it. Only surprise that Morrison actually beat Punk, might mean Punk will win at Summerslam.

Once again, WWE makes me enjoying TNA more and more, especially the Angle/Somoa Joke story.

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- RAW's rating actually ended up being a 3.7 off hours of 3.6 and 3.7. NFL Football on ESPN went head-to-head with RAW and did a 4.9 rating.

- Last night's edition of ECW on Sci-Fi scored a 1.7 rating, up from last week's 1.5 rating.

Credit: PWinsider.com

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Has ECW ever scored a 2.0 or higher?
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#40 iloverikku11
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should i watch either SD or ECW? (was there any good build upd to SS?) (ECW on friday in canada)
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Watch ECW.
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Has ECW ever scored a 2.0 or higher?-The_Chris-
I believe it scored in the low 2.0s the first few weeks, when there was massive curiosity surrounding what ECW would be like and they had a consistent slew of guest stars.
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Raw sucked ass, ECW was ok, TNA was ok from what I saw I will probably watch it more on Saturday, Smackdown so far has been ok.

The main reason Raw sucked so bad was beacause like so many other people here said, there was no build up to Summerslam, seeing orton attack Cena at the end was a nice touch but Cena may now just retain the Championship, Umaga Vs. Kennedy Vs. Carltio at Summerslam was a good idea, but having Kennedy Vs. Carlito to see who would face Umaga for the IC Championship was dumb, I mean we knew that that was going to be the result.

ECW had more going for them, they had Balls Mahoney win over Elijah Burke which that's always good, and Morrison winning over Punk could be good for Punk, to stop his winningstreak.

From what I saw on TNA Impact, was the Steiners Vs. Angle, which I like how it ended it reminded me of the good time when the Dudleys were in WWE.

Smackdown right now has been good we got Kane Vs. Finlay at Summerslam, I really like this whole thing with The Undertaker and Mark Henry, seeing 'taker playing all these mind games are good way to plug 'taker Vs. Henry for a future match.

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#44 TheGm86
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[QUOTE="-The_Chris-"]Has ECW ever scored a 2.0 or higher?The_Dude14
I believe it scored in the low 2.0s the first few weeks, when there was massive curiosity surrounding what ECW would be like and they had a consistent slew of guest stars.

ECW started with a 2.7(Highest rated Show on Sci-Fi) then the next week was a 2.4(Dropped because ther first show sucked)

And the first couple ECWs really blew chunks. By the time the show got good it was in the 1s and people missed the Awesome Angle vs RVD for the WWE/ECW Titles match.