Discuss: Black Vs Halo 2

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#1 onenine
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I was reading gamespot's review on Black, excited about picking a copy up tomorrow.

I read this interesting part:

"The eight levels in Black don't take long to complete. Experienced first-person shooter players will be able to blow through the game in six or seven hours the first time. The harder difficulty settings are, as you might expect, more difficult, though the primary difference is that you can't carry any health kits with you on these settings, so you won't be able to heal on command if things get rough. While you'll unlock black ops mode for beating the game on hard, as well as silver versions of the weapons, which have unlimited ammunition for use in any setting you beat the game on, there aren't any additional modes or multiplayer, and there isn't any serious replay value here. After playing through the game once on normal, it's tough to get excited about a second run-through on hard, let alone a third on black ops"

Sounds like my experience with Halo 2's storymode, short and sweet. The difference is that Halo 2 didn't give any reason to play over and over, and a least Black gives some reason (silver weapons, black ops), no matter how small.

The thing is, I still played Halo 2's story mode a million times through. I'm just curious, why give Black such a lower score? Because Halo has online play?

I'm still getting Black, looks awesome. Just wondering what your thought are on this, and why Black's campaign mode is so much worse than Halo's.

Edit: Changed title.

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#2 Foolio1
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Halo 2's gameplay is much tighter than that of Black.  Plus you'll probably finish the single-player mode in around 6-hours.  With no multiplayer whatsoever, I think there is only so many times you can go through the single-player mode.  Especially when you're continually put up against the AI, which isn't very bright.  It has great graphics and gun-selection though.
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#3 Pvt_Murphy
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The difference is, that Halo gives you a lot of reasons to play through it again.
The AI is very complex so every fight is slightly different and it is definately fun for a few times. Also, the game takes you lot longer than 6 or 7 hours if you are playing on Legendary, which is what you should do because that's were the fun is.
Aöso, you played Halo a few times because it was fun to play it again, not to work yourself to some unlockable stuff of dubious value.

In Black you shoot up dim oppoents who sometimes don't even react and when they react they don't do it very smart.
The only reason to play through it again is because you can unlock stuff, not because it is fun. And what do you do with the new silver weapons after you have "worked" your way through two more play-throughs? Play it a fourth time with unlimited ammo? You already beat the hardest mode. Where is the challenge?

Wel, I guess Black is fun for a while and I really want to get it sometimes because I'm a curious person (and because I like to shoot stuff :)). But it is not on paar with Halo 2's singleplayer campaign, which is admittedly far above average although it wasn't quite as well crafted as Halo 1's campaign..
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#4 onenine
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Wel, I guess Black is fun for a while and I really want to get it sometimes because I'm a curious person (and because I like to shoot stuff :)). But it is not on paar with Halo 2's singleplayer campaign, which is admittedly far above average although it wasn't quite as well crafted as Halo 1's campaign..
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How can you put the game down if you havn't even played it yet? /shrug
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#5 onenine
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Halo 2's gameplay is much tighter than that of Black.  Plus you'll probably finish the single-player mode in around 6-hours.  With no multiplayer whatsoever, I think there is only so many times you can go through the single-player mode.  Especially when you're continually put up against the AI, which isn't very bright.  It has great graphics and gun-selection though.Foolio1
That's what pisses me off about games. How can you release a game with just a short campaign mode and that's it? Even if your not taking it online, there should be at least more to do offline. Anyways, games are cheap now and I'm trying to squeeze as much life out of my xbox as possible before upgrading, so looks like Black is the choice for me. What do you guys think about Project: Snowblind? That one looked good, too. Call of Duty 3 looked decent too, but didn't look intense/fast-paced enough to satisfy me.
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#6 Pvt_Murphy
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[QUOTE="Pvt_Murphy"]Wel, I guess Black is fun for a while and I really want to get it sometimes because I'm a curious person (and because I like to shoot stuff :)). But it is not on paar with Halo 2's singleplayer campaign, which is admittedly far above average although it wasn't quite as well crafted as Halo 1's campaign..
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How can you put the game down if you havn't even played it yet? /shrug


1. I didn't put it down.
2. I inform myself about games I plan to get before I get them. And its not like I posted classified information here. This is common knowledge and everyone who knows the slightest thing about Black beyond those advertising trailers knows what I posted too.

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#7 ChaotikZero1
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Black.. its one of those games that you play that seem really good in the beginning but fall flat towards the end. Graphics are top-notch though. Oh and you cant change the sensitivity (which bugged me, i'm used to playing with sensitivity 10 on halo 2) or i just dont know how...
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#8 matthewmw64
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I tried playing it and gave up after a few minutes. I found it terribly boring and the Aiming recticle moved waaaaaaay too slowly for my liking.
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#9 onenine
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I tried playing it and gave up after a few minutes. I found it terribly boring and the Aiming recticle moved waaaaaaay too slowly for my liking.matthewmw64
Really? You found it boring? I know there are ALOT of shooters, especially for the xbox. After Halo 2, most shooters I came across just didn't cut it for me. They all seemed the same, and pretty lame. I pretty much gave up on every shooter I looked at. I assume, if you've played alot of shooters, you would probabaly find Black as a game without anything beyond good graphics and big explosions. I'm just looking for something to satisfy my need for loud, graphic, never ending chaos. From the vids I've seen of black, it seems like it fits that bill better than any other game. Call of duty 3 looks pretty good, but there were too many games like that when I played PS2. Feels like there isn't much left for me to do with my xbox. Which kinda makes me sad because there's alot of potential left for the system. Guess I'll be finishing the games I have left and moving on. From what you guys say, Black should be good for a 3day rental, which is probabaly what I'll do unless I can get it uber-cheap.
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#11 Lord_Simus_X
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Halo 2.
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#12 Varese_basic
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Project Snowblind is better than Black. Brute Force isn't bad either, you can or have to command a team and plot strategy.
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#13 SimpsonFan0505
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Well Halo 2 has alot of replay value and with Black it doesnt becasue well after playing it for awhile your done!
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#14 natester10
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I never really started to like Black that much...
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#15 horgen  Moderator
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black is awesome but after I while you get tired of it. and yes it's the same with Halo2 but for me it took me a few more weeks to get tired of.
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#16 sniperpenguins
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halo 2 is better, even when they cut 3 lvl out of the game. and the you can find stuff the 1st time you play. like BR's and other wepones with to much ammo or some of the skulls or hidden wepones caches. and its online is still one of the most played on xbl
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#17 psychojakrabbit
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Halo 2 is better than Black. Black was a disappointment to me. The difficult settings are ridiculous, it doesn't really get any harder to beat. You get less med packs but you get unlimited ammo, and all you have to do is use the M16 with the M203 grenade launch an blow them h***. I was so disgusted with it I couldn't finish playing on the hardest setting.
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#18 brittoss
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Black was one of those games I thought was really cool when I heard about it, but once I started playing the game and got past the destructable environments and cool looking graphics I got bored with the game. I just didn't find anything in the game that kept me hooked at all.

In the end it was a real good looking game with mediocre gameplay to me.

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#19 esbshalo
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Black is cool with the destructible enviroments and the graphics but really, I must say I'm disappointed. I gets really boring after a few levels, there's no strategy to it.

Halo on the other hand, has a lot of replay value and there's a kind of unique touch to it that makes it great.

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#20 dissonantblack
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i like black's single player campaign better.