2009, and yet no Xbox live support in Greece!

This subject is getting a little old, but still this is important for thousands gamers. It's unfair, to say the least, having paid for a product and not receiving the full services you have paid for. I'm very disappointed about it, and I express my strongest dissapproval for Microsoft's policy on this matter.Rheinmetal

Full services? If there's no XBL in Greece, and you just paid to get the console, then that's done and over with, and that's the full service. I can understand buying live, then realizing that you can't use it, but if you know that you can't play online, why would you? However, there has to be some reason, whether legit or stupid, that Microsoft has for not giving Greece XBL.

if we cant get xbl then why do we have to pay full price or why games like ff that can be played only online comes to greece?

we want xbl and we want it now!!!!

if we cant get xbl then why do we have to pay full price or why games like ff that can be played only online comes to greece?

we want xbl and we want it now!!!!

kaze13

but if you know that you can't play online...

Legendaryscmt

I didn't know it. None told me, because I never asked anyone, because I took it for granted, since I had an internet connection. And it's not mentioned anywhere in the console's package either. If not asking was naive by me, not informing, and not warning was unfair by the company.

if we cant get xbl then why do we have to pay full price or why games like ff that can be played only online comes to greece?

we want xbl and we want it now!!!!

kaze13

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]but if you know that you can't play online...

Rheinmetal

I didn't know it. None told me, because I never asked anyone, because I took it for granted, since I had an internet connection. And it's not mentioned anywhere in the console's package either. If not asking was naive by me, not informing, and not warning was malicious by the company.

So, if you checked out the main site, and searched for Live access in your area, and it says that you're not supported, then they just did tell you.

So, if you checked out the main site, and searched for Live access in your area, and it says that you're not supported, then they just did tell you.

Legendaryscmt

Blame your government, M$ wants to make money, we all know this, there is zero reason why they'd not have live access in any Country (they make a killing off of DLC), unless the government has blocked them from allowing it for whatever reason.

It's come up many times before, people in the UK, for instance, blamed Idle Hands for not releasing PAIN in the UK for a long time, as it turned out however, the ratings board refused to give it a rating, thereby disallowing it to appear in their Country, for a very long time. This happens more often than you'd think, another example, on XBL Canada we do not have access to TV shows, this is because the government blocks them from being allowed in the Country, due to "THE MIGHTY GOVERNMENT CBC OWNING ALL OF EVERYTHING", same goes for BBC in the UK, it makes it so we do not have access to a large sum of content, and it's actually the gov'ts fault, not the developer. Shocking, I know.

greece you should be thankful,MS is even not selling xboxes in Turkey :@ onuruca

shame on you ms i want support for greece

1.Since we greek players pay full price for games that come with the multiplayer feature included as a de facto we should have full, legid access to Live in order to use said features.If they do not offer it then they should also give us lower prices for the games, at least those with mp.Same goes for all other unsupported countries.

2.The law mentioned above was actually a misinterpretation of a law banning illegal lottery machines and slot machines.It was a stupid mistake that v.games were dragged into this mess but the problem was corrected in a matter of days.That was about 5 years ago.

3.I don't mean to insult any of our Turkish co-players but the difference is that Greece is a member of the EU which makes a huge difference in terms of product distribution.The reasons are pretty obvious.And no more brain-dead and impolite comments like "you are lucky to even have consoles".Why should YOU have anything more than what the greek player gets?

4.The biggest fault is M$'s of course but we are partly to blame as well.We should NOT be paying them for Live since they have turned their backs on us in the first place.

5.Some technicians insist that the problem comes with the complexity of the language.It is difficult for translation via software and that's why it would take a lot of work to make server firmware with our language as a base.That's just an opinion/theory though.

Glad there is so little flame in this thread :) .Keep up the civilized conversation ppl.

cant you just lie?

i remember people in the US awhile back made japanese accounts to get access to japanese only content

i think they got some sort of punishment but who cares, what are they gonna do ban you, itll make no difference

just lie

It is not a matter of lieing my friend.It's a matter of respect for the consumer.On top of that there is not way for M$ to know where the account was created.For example I created mine when I was in England, I just recovered it when I came back.Not to mention that we PAY for it!

So it's not like greek players can't get Live.It's that treating us like second grade citizens is just unfair and wrong.Simple as that.

It is not a matter of lieing my friend.It's a matter of respect for the consumer.Fioth

Of course all the companies want is money but in order to have clients who will give their cash to them they need to show consumers respect, not because the corps actually care but because an unsatisfied consumer will simply go elsewhere.

As for respecting the companies...they get our cash.That's all the respect they need.

Hey dude really...Im Greek and I always had xbox live (since Dec 2005). If you go to your hotmail account and change the country to UK (find a valid UK postal code i.e. UB8 3FG) then you will have no problem. The only problem now is that since jan-2009 Greek credit cards are not accepted from the service. So you can just buy microsoft cards with redeem codes. The best site is amazon.co.uk with minimum shipping costs...(no way more than 5 euros). And another negative, is that you cannot download some add-ons or videos that they are tooooo rare to be found. (because of country restrictions but that goes for all countries xbox live supports). The only major game i cannot download map packs is cod:world at war....too bad...but its ok...life goes on...But im telling you...You can play live and download games and add-ons from Greece just fine. end of story...

Fioth you are right and Greece should soport LIVE.But i think the WHOLE WORLD shood soport live for truly world wide gaming with every one.To be honest we are ass to ass with our countrys here im living in Macedonia (the country above your ...pls lets not talk about politic's :?)And i wish there wood have been some LIVE soport here too but gues what ...Seling the Xbox here is such a kick in the ballz you wonteven belive it.Geting the xbox from Macedonia is like stealing it fromBill Gatespersonaly:lol:.Anyway ijustgot myself a xboxand its going to arive via family from Germany to Macedoniain a week or so and i wanted to ask how you got Live to work there ?Because Macedonia doesent soport Live too.If some one could make a step by spep totorial on how to make a Xbox live account i wood be greatfull.

Thanks in advnace and even tho i live in Macedonia much Love and Luck to by friendly dudes down in Greece to get that Live :D

USA POWER!!!..........just lie about where you live.nate_c-12

Not as easy as it sounds since i think Microsoft is not just gona take it from you ?I think there is a IP check up that will not alow you to ...well play online and all the other stuff ... Damn you M$ i just wanted to play Halo 3 online ! Damn you :evil:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/28/dummy-u-s-xbox-live-accounts-blocked-not-banned/

Look's like our situation just got alot worse ... Im sorry felow Greek's but looks like Microsoft just owned the fu**ing planet with those IP block's.Gues its not gona be so easy to lie to Bill Gates.

if you want to buy stuff from XBL like DLC,it's almost impossible to lie i think... unless you have credit card from another country.

because they also check the country of your credit card

i live in france (XBL supported by MS here fortunately) but french voice actors in games often suck so i buy them in UK... but on XBL i dont have access to most english DLC/Movies.

that means i dont buy/rent movies on XBL because no matter what, they will play in french and i dont want that.

and if i buy a DLC, i might end up playing a game with some voices/text in english, and the DLC part in french if the game/DLC is not published in multi-language

my dashboard is also half english (offline/static part) and half french (online marketplace and some game descriptions).

really annoying... i hope some day video games online services will be totally free to use in any langage and for anyone

It is not a matter of lieing my friend.It's a matter of respect for the consumer.On top of that there is not way for M$ to know where the account was created.For example I created mine when I was in England, I just recovered it when I came back.Not to mention that we PAY for it!

So it's not like greek players can't get Live.It's that treating us like second grade citizens is just unfair and wrong.Simple as that.

This subject is getting a little old, but still this is important for thousands gamers. It's unfair, to say the least, having paid for a product and not receiving the full services you have paid for. I'm very disappointed about it, and I express my strongest dissapproval for Microsoft's policy on this matter.Rheinmetal

i live in slovenia and xbl doesnt support it and jes u can still play games online and get gold membership all u have to do is put your windowslive id under uk or usa or a countary that xbl support.

but there is another problem like this one:

u cant download codwaw map packs couz your ip doesnt mach your gamertag location

i found a way in slovenian forums how to get pass the ip blocade

i soon gonna try it when my sister goes to colage(high high school)

everyone say it works u have to create connection using proxy and u have to run xbox internet throu your pc otherwise it wont work