360 a flop or a success?

I don't wanna be a troll, but I want your perspective.

Was XBox a succes? It sold around 20-24 millions right? Is that good for a new console? And they did it entirely without getting anything from Japan.

360, do you think that it will manage to be a bigger success? Now that Wii has surpassed 360 overall in sales, is it possible that PS3 will also(years from now) be able to sell better than 360?

How much does 360 need to sell, to have been a success? Should the consumer care? Am I an idiot for wanting to play and like popular games? I have a Wii, but I dont enjoy it.

I dont know why, but I want the consoles I play to be the most popular? I dont know...

I don't wanna be a troll, but I want your perspective.

Was XBox a succes? It sold around 20-24 millions right? Is that good for a new console? And they did it entirely without getting anything from Japan.

360, do you think that it will manage to be a bigger success? Now that Wii has surpassed 360 overall in sales, is it possible that PS3 will also(years from now) be able to sell better than 360?

How much does 360 need to sell, to have been a success? Should the consumer care? Am I an idiot for wanting to play and like popular games? I have a Wii, but I dont enjoy it.

I dont know why, but I want the consoles I play to be the most popular? I dont know...

LuffyTubby

I'd say the hardware is a HUGE flop but the software is a successkonstantine2

Yes, you are right. Didnt they said that the software ratio was 6:1 or something? Like that every 360 owner has 6 games at default!? Thats insane! The original Playstation was like 1 game per console(due to all the piracy, probably)!

I dont know.. it annoys me that I care so much about sales. I had a premium and liked it, but sold it because I was afraid it would flop. Im considering getting an elite, but im afraid that ps3 and blu-ray will kill 360 early, and that they will soon start work on the next xbox! It sucked that the first xbox died after such a little while! the xbox was like out in less than 4 years in europe before they released 360:(

but im afraid that ps3 and blu-ray will kill 360 earlyLuffyTubby

First of all it's way too early to call any of the three consoles a flop and to a lesser degree a success. The success will be determined years from nowwith marketshare. Right now all three are performing pretty much how I expected. I am teh smartest!

The other thing I must comment on is you being worried about the console you own being the most popular. Who cares if it's popular or not as long as you enjoy playing it. Are you worried that somebody might not think your cool if you play a console that isn't the most popular?

[QUOTE="LuffyTubby"]but im afraid that ps3 and blu-ray will kill 360 earlyteebeenz

It annoys me that im thinking so much about it.

I mean after all, if I enjoy the games and the console what does it matter? I just hoped that the console I would play(Like 360) would last for 7-10 years... like ps2. want a long life cycle and have a big selection of games.

xbox had many good games, and halo was worth the console alone(IMO) but i was really sad when it just died after halo 2. when the hype and sales went down, everything stopped... they could have done so much more. but I understand where MS was coming from.

10 million in two years... thats not too bad for 360 overall? its better than dreamcast ever did, and SEGA had been in the business for almost 20 years at that point!

First of all it's way too early to call any of the three consoles a flop and to a lesser degree a success. The success will be determined years from nowwith marketshare. Right now all three are performing pretty much how I expected. I am teh smartest!

The other thing I must comment on is you being worried about the console you own being the most popular. Who cares if it's popular or not as long as you enjoy playing it. Are you worried that somebody might not think your cool if you play a console that isn't the most popular?

donnygorgas

I don't wanna be a troll, but I want your perspective.

Was XBox a succes? It sold around 20-24 millions right? Is that good for a new console? And they did it entirely without getting anything from Japan.

360, do you think that it will manage to be a bigger success? Now that Wii has surpassed 360 overall in sales, is it possible that PS3 will also(years from now) be able to sell better than 360?

How much does 360 need to sell, to have been a success? Should the consumer care? Am I an idiot for wanting to play and like popular games? I have a Wii, but I dont enjoy it.

I dont know why, but I want the consoles I play to be the most popular? I dont know...

LuffyTubby

I DONT KNOW I DONT KNOW is all I am hearing from you.

What do you think?

I'd say the hardware is a HUGE flop but the software is a successkonstantine2

I think its more of a flop. Too many damn problems with the hardware, only a few decent games out (Halo 3, Bioshock, ME, Gears WAS Good), and the XBLA is just terrible. Magna_Man109

I really hope that you are sarcastic about the quote.

I think once you start asking yourself this question your turning playing video games into something it really shouldn't be, an investment (which lately it seems to be becoming with all the "extras"). If you're gonna sit around checking and comparing various companies stock prices and sales figures in an attempt to peer into the future to see if it is a flop or not, you're losing that key component in video games that surpasses all...having a good time.YourLastDay86

mate dont you see. I wanna buy the console and keep playing and buying games for than console for 5-6 more years... I dont wanna upgrade to a new system, new controllers, new online service, new games, new ultra hd-tv-because-my-current-hd-tv-is-not-good-enough, backwards compatibility issues and so on... its just a hassle.

I wanna play a console with a long and good life. with good support and big community through the years. whats to say that MS will not just call it quits after halo 3 sales go down? sure.. maybe some banjo-threeie or too human orGTA4in 08, but what then? is it that then?

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I think once you start asking yourself this question your turning playing video games into something it really shouldn't be, an investment (which lately it seems to be becoming with all the "extras"). If you're gonna sit around checking and comparing various companies stock prices and sales figures in an attempt to peer into the future to see if it is a flop or not, you're losing that key component in video games that surpasses all...having a good time.YourLastDay86

For sure. Just play whatever is fun. I played my PS2 a ton during the last generation, and I play my 360 more than anything right now because I like the games on it. It's all about what brings about the most enjoyment to you. The Wii is selling a ton everwhere, but I still haven't bought one because I'm not interested in as many of the games. It's not about sales, but what you find worth your time. Whether it be Xbox, Wii, or a PS3 (or even an n-gage...well maybe we shouldn't go too far).

[QUOTE="Magna_Man109"]I think its more of a flop. Too many damn problems with the hardware, only a few decent games out (Halo 3, Bioshock, ME, Gears WAS Good), and the XBLA is just terrible. ISuperGamerI

I really hope that you are sarcastic about the quote.

why? i mean.. if we compare it to Wii? or DS? or PS2? is it even fair to compare them? different prices, selection of games, and the eras that they where released in all have a part in the sales...

but I dont understand it. some people say that 360 is actually doing worse in japan than the original xbox? some people say that 360 did not manage to meet their sales forecast!

in 2006 they said that by e3 07 they would have 10 million XBL users. then at e3 2007 they said that at e3 2008 they would have 10 million Live users. and that would not even be gold?!

I mean... you tell me, what success is!

I think its more of a flop. Too many damn problems with the hardware, only a few decent games out (Halo 3, Bioshock, ME, Gears WAS Good), and the XBLA is just terrible. Magna_Man109

[QUOTE="ISuperGamerI"]

[QUOTE="Magna_Man109"]I think its more of a flop. Too many damn problems with the hardware, only a few decent games out (Halo 3, Bioshock, ME, Gears WAS Good), and the XBLA is just terrible. LuffyTubby

I really hope that you are sarcastic about the quote.

why? i mean.. if we compare it to Wii? or DS? or PS2? is it even fair to compare them? different prices, selection of games, and the eras that they where released in all have a part in the sales...

but I dont understand it. some people say that 360 is actually doing worse in japan than the original xbox? some people say that 360 did not manage to meet their sales forecast!

in 2006 they said that by e3 07 they would have 10 million XBL users. then at e3 2007 they said that at e3 2008 they would have 10 million Live users. and that would not even be gold?!

I mean... you tell me, what success is!

you make everything seem more complicated than it actually is...just chill out

[QUOTE="konstantine2"]I'd say the hardware is a HUGE flop but the software is a successLuffyTubby

Yes, you are right. Didnt they said that the software ratio was 6:1 or something? Like that every 360 owner has 6 games at default!? Thats insane! The original Playstation was like 1 game per console(due to all the piracy, probably)!

I dont know.. it annoys me that I care so much about sales. I had a premium and liked it, but sold it because I was afraid it would flop. Im considering getting an elite, but im afraid that ps3 and blu-ray will kill 360 early, and that they will soon start work on the next xbox! It sucked that the first xbox died after such a little while! the xbox was like out in less than 4 years in europe before they released 360:(

No offense but some of you guys act like there is a war between game systems. 360 is out right now with a lot of great games for everyone. The ps3 is out now waiting on some great games. The wii isn't important :P no i'm just playing, but the 360 is not gonna stop selling because the ps3 is gonna sell more in the future.

I dont know... I just cant deal with this no more.

Why cant some things last forever?

[QUOTE="Magna_Man109"]I think its more of a flop. Too many damn problems with the hardware, only a few decent games out (Halo 3, Bioshock, ME, Gears WAS Good), and the XBLA is just terrible. ISuperGamerI

I really hope that you are sarcastic about the quote.

No sarcasm at all buddy....

360 has just been boring lately. Maybe its just video games in general that are boring. I mean the only game that I will play now on my 360 is probably Halo 3 and NBA 2k8...

It could be the best if it didn't have all the technical issue's, sadly it does.

The PS3 could be on top with Wii if Sony actually lowered the price, and greased up some developers to start making games worth buying. There's currently not a single game that would make me buy the PS3.

I think once you start asking yourself this question your turning playing video games into something it really shouldn't be, an investment (which lately it seems to be becoming with all the "extras"). If you're gonna sit around checking and comparing various companies stock prices and sales figures in an attempt to peer into the future to see if it is a flop or not, you're losing that key component in video games that surpasses all...having a good time.YourLastDay86

The price of these next gen consoles make it an investment, whatever way you look at it.

Well if people are still buying 360's despite it having the highest hardware failure rates, then it's a success. It's sales have only slowed down a bit because there wasn't any games out this summer except bioshock but from september onwards I can see them rocketing. I also highly doubt that the xbox 360 reign will end after 2008, there's probably loads of games out there still unanounced yet, so don't worry. Just because the ps3 has some games announced for next year doesn't mean that the 360 wont. I'm sure there's some stragedy being thought up for 2008 and beyond to keep the 360's momentum going after this year's lineup, MS arn't going to go full blast this year only to hope for the best for next year with their fingers crossed.

I think this should be in system wars but,

If u compare it to like the dreamcast it is a success. But u will always be compared to the big dog of the generation. Right now the wiiis selling but u never know. As aperson who owns all three systems i would say i see the least promise from the 360.Not because i think it is no good i love it but i am sure in the future say two years from now. U will see why sony went with the 50 gig storage of blu-ray and the limits of the dvd-9. But u will see crazy innovative games for the wii just crappy graphics.

every weekend is like christmas in japan they buy as many games as we do and have a much smaller population. And they do need japan. Why do u think the wii has sold so much because it is here no because they have both sides. If microsoft could do that there would be no question of catching them.

every weekend is like christmas in japan they buy as many games as we do and have a much smaller population. And they do need japan. Why do u think the wii has sold so much because it is here no because they have both sides. If microsoft could do that there would be no question of catching them.

coolcole1

The Wii is a joke and IMO a slap in the face of real gamers everywhere. And don't get me started on those Japs.

I'd say the hardware is a HUGE flop but the software is a successkonstantine2

Beat me to it.

well i hope this helps the hardware will get better because with the new heat sink you dont get the rrod and the new 65nm chips comeing this fall and all the great games makes this the must have for this year next year and all years of this gencody412

When do you think that is going to come out? Because I'll be the first to buy that.