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#1 Microdevine
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Every one knows that the 360 library is definetly one of the best and most sophisticated this gen.but i was thinking this might change in the upcoming years.With Bioware being boughtout by EA its most likely that the next installments will go multi plat.With Bungie going independent, any game that they make could also go multiplat.Now with Microsoft owning the rights to Halo the series must stay exclusive to them, but still they're a great studio.And with MS only signing a two game deal with Epic, any Gears game after 2 could also go multi-plat.They've already lost Bioshock.And with rumors that the next GTA will be too big for the 360,they could loose that too.If they would loose these exclusives it would surely spell DOOM for the 360.and being as big of fan as i am. i would hate to see that.Do you have any suggestions of what do you think MS will do.Surely they're aware of this.I personally think they should buy Valve and Bethesda seeing as how both those studios support the 360 and pc more.If thats possible to buy them.Do you know of any other studios that they're interested in or should be.Thanks. p.s. If im wrong about anything here plz correct me.

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#2 dragoon133
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1. Paragraphs and sentence structure.

2. Who cares? I honestly don't get why people don't want games to go multiplat. If it's a good game then more people get to play it. How is that a bad thing? Or are you so insecure that even your video game console has to be the best? Besides the 360 won't be 'doomed'. It's common knowledge that the 360 is cheaper and easier to develop for than the PS3 (the wii and PC are really looking at different markets) so smaller companies prefer to develop for it, while larger companies can go multiplat. Not to mention that this generation (if you believe MS) will be shorter than last anyway, so it won't really matter.

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#3 KorruptRaiden
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im sorry mate but the xbox360 is going down, wii is winning right now but the ps3 will win, ive always been an xbox fan but halo3 was dissapointing and i cant enjoy gears. The PS3 has much better exclusives regardless.
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#4 grafkhun
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You're not 'wrong' at anything here, but there are somethings, which I will point out are not very likely to occur. Firstly, Bungie is not independent, they are in name, but in function they are an in-house developer team for microsoft. Also, I highly doubt, I mean HIGHLY doubt, the Gears of War series will move away from 360. As for the nest GTA being to big for 360, ummm, please tell where you heard that. As for Microsoft buying Valve, PM me right now where you heard this rumor, because that will never happen. Besthesda may very well, but that is unlikely. Anyways, I don't think the 360 is in exclusive trouble, plus I would actually like less exclusives. Multiplatform games to me are better. if the game is good, more people get to play it, no one is left out of the party, and if there are so many multiplatform games there's the posibility of cross-platform interaction (I can dream ok). Also exclusives elimate 'special editions'. I dislike it when games are released on another console down the line with exclusive content only for that version, either make the new stuff availible to those with the older version or don't do such things in the first place.
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#6 njnaz765
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I see what you're saying, but here are some counterpoints to keep in mind. Rockstar would never let go of the 360, cause thats statistically more sales. It would be stupid to not play it on the 360. Then the Bioshock issue, Bioshock was an amazing game, I know, but the lack of multiplayer really lessened its value for me. The loss of it isn't so substantial though. It would be a bigger catastrophe if Gears was lost or Halo. Which I don't think Halo would jump ship for the very reason that, the series is over. If they released a Halo 4, it would be for the 360 only, but I wouldn't feel so horrible if Halo 3 ODST was a multiplatform game. Along with those points, I think you'll notice, that a lot more games are being made for both the 360 and PS3. You'll still see the big Gears, Fables, and Halos on 360, but you'll get theequivalents on the PS3. So for the 360's Alan Wake, the PS3 has Heavy Rain (I think thats the name). So the exclusives don't pose much of a problem in the future, cause the names we know will stay, but the big boys like GTA and Bioshock, will be a multiplatform affair. Which I don't mind, cause both consoles are great.
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#7 GranmastaZoSo
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im sorry mate but the xbox360 is going down, wii is winning right now but the ps3 will win, ive always been an xbox fan but halo3 was dissapointing and i cant enjoy gears. The PS3 has much better exclusives regardless.KorruptRaiden
Just because 2 games "failed" YOU, the 360 is going down?
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#8 Iqen
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2. Who cares? I honestly don't get why people don't want games to go multiplat. If it's a good game then more people get to play it. How is that a bad thing?dragoon133
Plain and simply put. I really couldn't care less if games go mulitplatform. As long as Microsoft releases a console with a good lineup of games(multiplat or not), along with convience and other factors such as price, then I'll be sure to buy it.
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#9 tktomo01
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If this happens, MS will revert to the standard response: Release the next one. In this case, "one" refers to another Xbox. Problem solved, MS makes more money. Thats how it works for them. Even if "the next one" isn't very successful for a long time (see Vista), who really cares, because MS is still worth over $170 billion. And BTW, if they bought Valve... Well, I will just let you mull through those consequences.
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#10 tktomo01
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I see what you're saying, but here are some counterpoints to keep in mind. Rockstar would never let go of the 360, cause thats statistically more sales. It would be stupid to not play it on the 360. Then the Bioshock issue, Bioshock was an amazing game, I know, but the lack of multiplayer really lessened its value for me. The loss of it isn't so substantial though. It would be a bigger catastrophe if Gears was lost or Halo. Which I don't think Halo would jump ship for the very reason that, the series is over. If they released a Halo 4, it would be for the 360 only, but I wouldn't feel so horrible if Halo 3 ODST was a multiplatform game. Along with those points, I think you'll notice, that a lot more games are being made for both the 360 and PS3. You'll still see the big Gears, Fables, and Halos on 360, but you'll get theequivalents on the PS3. So for the 360's Alan Wake, the PS3 has Heavy Rain (I think thats the name). So the exclusives don't pose much of a problem in the future, cause the names we know will stay, but the big boys like GTA and Bioshock, will be a multiplatform affair. Which I don't mind, cause both consoles are great.njnaz765
Well said.
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#11 KorruptRaiden
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[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"]im sorry mate but the xbox360 is going down, wii is winning right now but the ps3 will win, ive always been an xbox fan but halo3 was dissapointing and i cant enjoy gears. The PS3 has much better exclusives regardless.GranmastaZoSo
Just because 2 games "failed" YOU, the 360 is going down?

yes actually when you consider zelda, metal gear, final fantasy, uncharted, pokemon even which are highly successful on the other side.
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#12 dragoon133
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[QUOTE="GranmastaZoSo"][QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"]im sorry mate but the xbox360 is going down, wii is winning right now but the ps3 will win, ive always been an xbox fan but halo3 was dissapointing and i cant enjoy gears. The PS3 has much better exclusives regardless.KorruptRaiden
Just because 2 games "failed" YOU, the 360 is going down?

yes actually when you consider zelda, metal gear, final fantasy, uncharted, pokemon even which are highly successful on the other side.

How does that mean the 360 is 'going down' though? It's still selling like hotcakes and has the highest attach rate of the consoles. In fact the only thing MS really need to improve at this point is the quality of the hardware. The RRoD is driving away sales still. Mine has already had that and is being fixed again right now (for another problem). It has plenty of quality games both out now and to be released (including FF 13 BTW) and Live is better than Home. That's what a paid service gets you (though I would like to see some dedicated servers come in, especially with living in Australia).

Yes the PS3 has more potential (sorry fanboys, but it simply is more powerful) but until the devs can actually tap into that it will still be all but the same between the two. Though I have no doubt that the further we go into this generation the better the graphics will get on the PS3. Yes, by the end of the cycle the PS3 will have better graphics, but contrary to popular belief graphics don't make a game good.

Also KorruptRaiden, like I said in my first post I think the Wii is simply targeting a completely different audience. In fact a lot of people seem to have a Wii and a 360 or PS3. Of course MS and Sony will be taking notice but I think they're both primarily concerned with each other for the moment.

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#13 Microdevine
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1. I could really care less if my sentence structure is correct here on video game threads and don't think your special if your doing it correctly or by insulting people because trust me.It's not that tough.So don't get all worked up about yourself.

2. I really don't care if they go multi-plat or not.I was talking about it from a business stand point. When i said it would hate it cause im a fan of the 360, i meant that if they would loose those them, they could loose buyers, which could ultimetly cause them to stop making consoles.Please try to read between the lines before you go making hasty replies. Also it's obvious that the Wii will continue to sell incredibly well and if the PS3 does get a price drop then that will surely hurt them too. and saying the 360 and pc are aiming at different markets is about the dumbest thing ive ever heard.Plus, im sure this gen will last around its normal 5 year life spand to maximize profits.I do have a 360 and Wii and am planning to get ps3 if the price drop is true.im far from insecure so please stop acting like an idiot because you clearly did not understand the thread.

p.s. ill be waiting for the comments on how my grammer isnt correct and frankly.I dont give a s%!t

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#14 KorruptRaiden
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[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="GranmastaZoSo"] Just because 2 games "failed" YOU, the 360 is going down? dragoon133

yes actually when you consider zelda, metal gear, final fantasy, uncharted, pokemon even which are highly successful on the other side.

How does that mean the 360 is 'going down' though? It's still selling like hotcakes and has the highest attach rate of the consoles. In fact the only thing MS really need to improve at this point is the quality of the hardware. The RRoD is driving away sales still. Mine has already had that and is being fixed again right now (for another problem). It has plenty of quality games both out now and to be released (including FF 13 BTW) and Live is better than Home. That's what a paid service gets you (though I would like to see some dedicated servers come in, especially with living in Australia).

Yes the PS3 has more potential (sorry fanboys, but it simply is more powerful) but until the devs can actually tap into that it will still be all but the same between the two. Though I have no doubt that the further we go into this generation the better the graphics will get on the PS3. Yes, by the end of the cycle the PS3 will have better graphics, but contrary to popular belief graphics don't make a game good.

Also KorruptRaiden, like I said in my first post I think the Wii is simply targeting a completely different audience. In fact a lot of people seem to have a Wii and a 360 or PS3. Of course MS and Sony will be taking notice but I think they're both primarily concerned with each other for the moment.

people who stick with faulty hardware (xbox360) would have to be a tad thick, the only thing that is keeping it inline is xbox live, which you have to pay for.........lol
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#15 Th3-UnS33n
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[QUOTE="dragoon133"]

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"] yes actually when you consider zelda, metal gear, final fantasy, uncharted, pokemon even which are highly successful on the other side.KorruptRaiden

How does that mean the 360 is 'going down' though? It's still selling like hotcakes and has the highest attach rate of the consoles. In fact the only thing MS really need to improve at this point is the quality of the hardware. The RRoD is driving away sales still. Mine has already had that and is being fixed again right now (for another problem). It has plenty of quality games both out now and to be released (including FF 13 BTW) and Live is better than Home. That's what a paid service gets you (though I would like to see some dedicated servers come in, especially with living in Australia).

Yes the PS3 has more potential (sorry fanboys, but it simply is more powerful) but until the devs can actually tap into that it will still be all but the same between the two. Though I have no doubt that the further we go into this generation the better the graphics will get on the PS3. Yes, by the end of the cycle the PS3 will have better graphics, but contrary to popular belief graphics don't make a game good.

Also KorruptRaiden, like I said in my first post I think the Wii is simply targeting a completely different audience. In fact a lot of people seem to have a Wii and a 360 or PS3. Of course MS and Sony will be taking notice but I think they're both primarily concerned with each other for the moment.

people who stick with faulty hardware (xbox360) would have to be a tad thick, the only thing that is keeping it inline is xbox live, which you have to pay for.........lol

There's nothing "lol" to be paying 5 bucks a month for a superior service.
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#16 rp108
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...Yes the PS3 has more potential (sorry fanboys, but it simply is more powerful)...

dragoon133

That's what they said about the Atari Jaguar.

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#17 dragoon133
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1. I could really care less if my sentence structure is correct here on video game threads and don't think your special if your doing it correctly or by insulting people because trust me.It's not that tough.So don't get all worked up about yourself.

2. I really don't care if they go multi-plat or not.I was talking about it from a business stand point. When i said it would hate it cause im a fan of the 360, i meant that if they would loose those them, they could loose buyers, which could ultimetly cause them to stop making consoles.Please try to read between the lines before you go making hasty replies. Also it's obvious that the Wii will continue to sell incredibly well and if the PS3 does get a price drop then that will surely hurt them too. and saying the 360 and pc are aiming at different markets is about the dumbest thing ive ever heard.Plus, im sure this gen will last around its normal 5 year life spand to maximize profits.I do have a 360 and Wii and am planning to get ps3 if the price drop is true.im far from insecure so please stop acting like an idiot because you clearly did not understand the thread.

p.s. ill be waiting for the comments on how my grammer isnt correct and frankly.I dont give a s%!t

Microdevine

Get angry. I was mostly concerned about the use of paragraphs to be honest. It just makes it a bit more readable. Is that so hard to understand?

On topic though. I apologise if I offended you but it does come off an awful lot like you're one of the hundreds of young adolescent douchebags who seem to think that they're console 'winning' is a measure of themselves. Clearly you're aren't one of them and I jumped to conclusions, whatever. My points though do stand. The 360 is easier to develop for, therefore they will continue to have games made for it. And as I said in my second post it is still selling and has a much higher attach rate than the PS3. Trust me, it's not going anywhere soon. MS have spent too much money on it already to cut and run.

As for the gen-length, MS said themselves that they were planning on it being shorter than last gen. That was a while ago though so it's probably changed since then.

And now my favourite point. Consoles and PC's are two COMPLETELY different markets. In fact the only reason MS even made the Xbox was because they'd already pretty much won the computer race so they wanted to 'take over the loungeroom' (their words). In other words even MS see them as two different markets. The reality is that you or I (that is people who actually take games as a hobby, as opposed to 'casual gamers') may compare computers to consoles but most don't. Consoles are commonly bought to play games and PC's are bought for school, work, internet etc. Games are a secondary consideration for most (hence the reason companies like Dell or HP still advertise for certain 'gaming PCs' - most people don't buy PC's for games).

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#18 Microdevine
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First, I'd like to apologize if i came off as being angry.and i do see your point as it being more readable its just usually im in a hurry and dont take my time.and i can understand you telling off a 12 year old douchebags because of some silly console war and him being biased and unreasonable about the situation.ive also done this many times and seeing as how these unreasonable "children" infest youtube and gamespot. and i do know what you mean by pcs and consoles are completely different things.i thought you meant the types of game (shooters, rts's,and rpgs)which is what i was disagreeing with. But i would like to apologize for the misunderstanding.i would actually prefer games go multi-plat, for then budgets and calenders are extended, which usually makes for a better game.