360 Needs Fighting Games

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#1 Simulator_Shock
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I have to say that as fine as the 360 is, it is the worst console for fighting games. I mean the only fighting game on it is DOA4 (terrible) and Virtua Fighter 5 (good) other than that....

It is awesome that Soul Calibur 4 will be here soon, but I mean the console only has like 2 fighting games..There is still the possiblty about the long-rumored Killer Instinct 3 but Rare is keeping pretty mum on that one.

Who else thinks the 360 needs more fighting games besides Soul Calibur?

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#2 xisytenin
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I'm fine without a good fighter, but if one comes out that is really really good id probably get it
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#3 vendettared468
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Honestly i think the 3D fighter is a dying if not already dead genre.
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#4 mike4realz
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STREET FIGHTER IV?
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#5 gr8scott
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Honestly i think the 3D fighter is a dying if not already dead genre.vendettared468

I'd hate to have to admit to something like that, but I think you're right. Fighting games are priced the same as FPS, RPG, and action/adventure games. Unfortunately, they don't have as much content in their game when compared to other genres. Ultimately, it's up to the consumer. For me, I'd rather spend my $60 on a game like COD4, GTA4, or Mass Effect rather than Soul Caliber 3. I'm not knocking SC3, but I'll end up getting more content for my buck with games like COD4, GTA4, or Mass Effect. I like some of the fighting games like DOA, SC, and Tekken. But unless I can get a fighting game at a bargain price, I'll end up renting them instead.

Also, when you ask someone what their favorite game is, it's very very rare hear someone give you a title that is a fighting game.

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#6 Strife88
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Honestly i think the 3D fighter is a dying if not already dead genre.vendettared468

In a way you're right, there won't be any new franchises for the genre but the existing ones will continue to go strong. ex. Dead or Alive, Virtua Fighter, Tekken and Soul Calibur.

I don't think I'll ever get tired of those games so they can just keep making them.

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#7 OldProf
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DOA4 isn't terrible, its still the best fighting game in the console despite its a 2 year old game.
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#8 AtlanticRock
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I love King of Fighters and the Fatal Fury series... I'd kill to see KOF XII on 360 or past KOF's or Mark of Wolves on XBL.
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**crosses fingers for marvel vs dc**
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#10 Ket87
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The fighting genre is dead. It was fun while it lasted but in the day and age of online multiplayer the fun of fighting games is lost. Fighters were all about getting together with some friends and playing against each other. Plus fighters are terrible with online, the fighter genre is too dependent on perfect timing to deal with the laggy conections provided by Xbox Live or PSN for that matter.

Street Figher IV is probably too little too late. Soul Caliber 4 is just going to be another Soul Caliber. And as for MK vs DC, it is the destruction of a franchise. By taking away Mortal Kombats biggest distinction its M rating and pairing it up with DC which outside of Batman and Superman has the lamest characters ever is going to ruin what was one of the great fighting franchises. The recent MK games cleaned the floor with the competition by offering an actual single player campaign.

Maybe if fighters figured out a way to make online work (EA style dedicated servers perhaps?) and either lowered the retail price of fighting games or actually added more content to the games the genre might be revitilized. But as of right now noones paying $60 to get half assed laggy online and fighting games traditional terrible replay value concept of beat the game in 10 minutes per character to unlock a cutscene and some lame modes like survival.

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#11 kratos419
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The problem is that we require more from our games now than something repetive like fighters. Something drastic and new needs to come along to revitalize the genre. That thing was supposed to be online play but lag killed it. As for me personally, I spent over a hundred hours with Virtua Fighter 5 and about the same with Tekken 5. The way you rank up your characters and unlock tons of items kept me busy. I thought of a great fighting game idea....make it like a realistic MMA style game where you create your own character for the career mode. It would play like a faster version of Virtua Fighter 5, and keep track of stats. As you train or accomplish certain things in matches you would become stronger and unlock clothes etc. The career mode could be like Virtua Fighter 5 like the arcade main screen, but when you arrive you walk around and find your fight. Locales could include bar fights, street fights, MMA tournaments, boxing tournaments etc. It would have a fresh feel and enough content to keep the player busy for a long time.
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I tried DOA4 but didn't really like it. The only other semi-fighting game I tried was Fight Night Rd 3 which was quite good, but obviously being a boxing game, rather than fighting game, you are limited in what moves you can do.

Street Fighter is on xbla, but really only for retro gamers wanting their nostalgic fix.

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I'm hoping Street Fighter 4 will pwn all.
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#14 Muramasa_Edge
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Honestly i think the 3D fighter is a dying if not already dead genre.vendettared468

I would agree, if it wasn't for Tekken 6, Soul Caliber 4 and Street Fighter 4 looming on a not-so distant horizon. There's not enough beat-em-ups anymore however, and it's unfortunate that fans of the fighter genre as a whole have to rely on updates and sequels to old franchises. That said, those franchises have always been at the very forefront of fighting games, so I don't see it being too big a problem- I like it better than back when the PSOne was influxed with tired beat-em-ups like Toshinden, Rival Schools and the worst videogame ever made, Rise of the Robots 2: Resurrection.

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#15 beex215
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fight night round 3 is good.

only is they made marvel vs capcom 3 or made 2 online play.and fix the game with a patch.

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#16 ThaSod
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Just play Street Fighter 2 on Xbox Live.

That's enough fighting games right there.

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#17 VoodooHak
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Dont' forget Xbox Live Arcade:

  • Fatal Fury Special
  • Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting
  • Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
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#18 Aurey
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Well, there's DOA4, a bit old, but still the best fighting game on the 360. There's also VF5, but it's as stiff as it's always been, just can't believe how bad some animations look at this time and age, but still is a fan favourite so it counts as a good fighter.

Maybe Soul Calibur and SSFIIHDR will be the only ones on the horizon this year, cause I really don't think Street Fighter IV will be out in 2008. The sad part of this is that there's not much people who cares about fighting games anymore, so developers don't even try to make anything new, I mean, I love DOA, SF, Soul Calibur, and KOF but still it would be great to see a new IP in the fighting genre... and nope, for me (and for any fighting game fan, I would dare to guess) the likes of Fight Night and Face Breakers don't count.

And yeah, there are some Xbox Live Arcade fighters, but some of the just haven't aged gracefully. I thought I would enjoy Mortal Kombat a lot, but in the end it just was no fun anymore. Another case is SNK, I don't get why they released Fatal Fury instead of a newer and better game (I was thinking about any KOF, Garou or Last Blade, name yours).

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what about mk vs dc
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Def Jam Icon.
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#21 chillwill3000
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I'm hoping Street Fighter 4 will pwn all.imakillaholic

i thought this was going to be an arcade game.

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#22 Simulator_Shock
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Def Jam Icon. chillwill3000

Def Jam Icon was a joke, not only as a fighting game but also as a game in general.

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#23 Mau-Justice
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No...It's not dying at all. I think it's just about to start. Tekken finally took the route of going online. Why do you think Brawl is so big?

A good fighter + online = win.

Street Fighter and Soul Caliber, those are plenty for me. But nothing will ever top Tekken, hands down my favorite fighter, and the only reason I bought a PS3.

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Brawl is big because it is one of the few games out on the WII that caters to what is essentially an overlooked market on WII, and that's Hardcore gamers. WII is very much casual, wheras Nintendo fans of old, alot of whom have supported the console from the NES/Famicom tend to lean towards the hardcore. Nintendo fanboys/girls young and old buy Brawl because it's a well balanced celebration of Nintendo's characters and history, and Hardcore gamers buy it because it's fast, furious and very skill reliant when two good players go at it.

When it comes down to it though, Brawl is a year and a half overdue in Europe, and having played it, it feels exactly the same as before. Now, for a game in development for the better part of four or five years, that's just inexcusable. Personally, for me, the daddy is Tekken; it's in my opinion the purest fighter out there, and a damn sight better than the more arcadey battlers such as brawl.

Now, while brawl is a big, heavyweight fighting title, and it's going to draw huge numbers and lots of money- it alone can't save a genre that constantly relies on rehashes, sequels and games that unashamedly plagerise the greats of the past. Very little new has been developed in the fighting genre, and that's the reason it's such a lose-lose genre now.

Unless we see real innovation, and not just sequels, the fighting genre has little future, apart from seasonal updates and sequels.

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#25 Simulator_Shock
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But nothing will ever top Tekken, hands down my favorite fighter, and the only reason I bought a PS3.

Mau-Justice

I'd have to agree with you on that, I love Tekken and grew up with the series on PS1. In fact Tekken 2 was one of the main reasons why I got a Playstation to begin with! I am considering buying a PS3 for Tekken 6 once it comes out...

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#26 Mau-Justice
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[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

But nothing will ever top Tekken, hands down my favorite fighter, and the only reason I bought a PS3.

Simulator_Shock

I'd have to agree with you on that, I love Tekken and grew up with the series on PS1. In fact Tekken 2 was one of the main reasons why I got a Playstation to begin with! I am considering buying a PS3 for Tekken 6 once it comes out...

I tried so hard to get into other fighters too, I just can't.

The wait sucks, but between Soul Caliber and Tekken, you just have to wait for them to throw it down. Those are the only two worth getting.

Can't believe people say it's dying though, This is the first time a good fighter has ever had an online multiplayer. All they need is some kind of tournament/league mode and they will be the next craze. I even enjoy Tekken : DR where you get to watch matches and wait your turn to dethrone the champ, gives it that old school arcade feel.

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As soon as I heard that Yoda and Darth Vader are going to be in SC4, I immediately lost interest. That's just pushing it.

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#28 Mau-Justice
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As soon as I heard that Yoda and Darth Vader are going to be in SC4, I immediately lost interest. That's just pushing it.

Lord_Tik

Yea, I'll admit I'm a little worried about the balance of the game...Yoda and Darth Vader are just going to be gods I bet. You see Yoda doing his flipping in the gameplay...worries me.

I'm not a Star Wars fan, but Yoda is one of my favorite characters in any movie. So I'll give it a try. Anybody know if it's going to be version specific? Like 360 gets Yoda, PS3 gets Vader? Or do we get both?

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#29 Milot
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King of Fighters is going to be release on 360 so that's good IMO.

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#30 Aurey
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Didn't know they were planning a KOF for 360, it's great. Another one that looks interesting is Battle Fantasia, from the people who made Guilty Gear.
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#31 ibanezdropd
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dead or alive 4

virtua fighter 5 online

soul calibur 4

.... they just need a decent d-pad on the controller

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#32 mike4realz
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As soon as I heard that Yoda and Darth Vader are going to be in SC4, I immediately lost interest. That's just pushing it.

Lord_Tik

They should of put Ryu Hayabusa on XBOX 360 and Kratos from God of War on PS3

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Yea, I'll admit I'm a little worried about the balance of the game...Yoda and Darth Vader are just going to be gods I bet. You see Yoda doing his flipping in the gameplay...worries me.

I'm not a Star Wars fan, but Yoda is one of my favorite characters in any movie. So I'll give it a try. Anybody know if it's going to be version specific? Like 360 gets Yoda, PS3 gets Vader? Or do we get both?

Mau-Justice

Yoda for Xbox, Vader for PS3. Neither console is getting both.

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#34 FleshTone
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The genre itself doesn't have as wide an appeal as it used to - I've always been a Tekken fan personally; but in truth, there's little public outcry demanding a new 'fighting title'. And, since the XBOX 360 does have backwards compatibility on many older games (though it's clearly rough and was an afterthought), they probably figure we'll just put in an older title when we get nostalgic.
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#35 Aurey
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But not all of us play fighting games out of nostalgia. They're a lot of fun when you have someone to play them with, it would be great if they worked OK online, but the only one that has decent online features up until now is DOA4. Let's wait and see Soul Calibur.
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#36 mohfrontline
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def jam icon was a fighter
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[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Yea, I'll admit I'm a little worried about the balance of the game...Yoda and Darth Vader are just going to be gods I bet. You see Yoda doing his flipping in the gameplay...worries me.

I'm not a Star Wars fan, but Yoda is one of my favorite characters in any movie. So I'll give it a try. Anybody know if it's going to be version specific? Like 360 gets Yoda, PS3 gets Vader? Or do we get both?

jt4mtb

Yoda for Xbox, Vader for PS3. Neither console is getting both.

Sweet, I'd be pissed if I had to play on PSN just to use Yoda. I want Yoda on X-live :)

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#38 Muramasa_Edge
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[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Yea, I'll admit I'm a little worried about the balance of the game...Yoda and Darth Vader are just going to be gods I bet. You see Yoda doing his flipping in the gameplay...worries me.

I'm not a Star Wars fan, but Yoda is one of my favorite characters in any movie. So I'll give it a try. Anybody know if it's going to be version specific? Like 360 gets Yoda, PS3 gets Vader? Or do we get both?

jt4mtb

Yoda for Xbox, Vader for PS3. Neither console is getting both.

Well, not yet- there may be DLC in future to unlock the other character.