65nm 360s already out ???

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

Yes, make sure the system is manufactured after October 2007.LoserMike

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

Schumi7WDC

:lol: never thikn about it , but yea sounds logic. also im getting the Premium one

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

Schumi7WDC

[QUOTE="Schumi7WDC"]

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

murlow12

yeah true but, the thing is to know...if it has the 65nm, before paying for it

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

Schumi7WDC

[QUOTE="Schumi7WDC"]

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

solo4321

true 2....you should call ahead and ask ! :o !!

[QUOTE="Schumi7WDC"]

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

solo4321

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

Schumi7WDC

He's right. I bought a falcon too! All you need to do is look on the side of the box for 175W!

What about the 360 Elite? Do they all come with 65nm?dews124

Yes.

But the preiumems previously didn't.

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

Schumi7WDC

Actually anandtech did an article about the falcon board and found out that the gpu actually shrank a little bit, from a 90nm to an 80nm. Not much but every little bit helps. Here's the article, it's a good read. www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152

[QUOTE="Schumi7WDC"]

Yes the new hardware using the 65 nm process is called "Falcon"it's a new motherboard revision, new cooling system to better take advantage of the new heatsink that has been in use for a while now, and several other changes. Only the CPU and the E-DRAM are 65nm though, the GPU is still using the 90 nm process, supposedly that won't change until August of 08 or later.

If you find a console made in say November, you should be safe, but depending on what model you buy, you can't really use manufacturing date as a super reliable source, even using assembly team name and batch number isn't a certain bet. The LE Halo consoles where the first to get the new revisions, and they supposedly started with batch 734 and around the end of September.

The best way, and only 100% surefire way to know if the console is a Falcon without taking it out of the box and looking at it more in depth, is to use the power supply information which is the last line or two at the bottom of the white sticker that is on the side of the console box. The old 90nm units are all 203 Watt power supply units. The new 65nm units are the only ones that have a 175 Watt power supply due to thier lower power needs.

There are supposedly 65nm consoles out there with 203 Watt power supplies, but there are no 90nm units out there with 175 Watt PSs, so that's the easiest and most certain way to do it.

murlow12

seriously. Logic? On Gamespot? noooooooooooooooo

so if i bought my 360 after November does that necessarily mean that it was manufactured after November
Mr_Wes32

No, I bought mine like Novermeber 30th.

Just get one that says 175W on the little white sticker! :D

soooo, what does all this mean?

does it mean that the system is less likely to RROD?

soooo, what does all this mean?

does it mean that the system is less likely to RROD?

dews124

this has been the most helpful thread i've ever found on gamespotibanezdropd

so if i bought my 360 after November does that necessarily mean that it was manufactured after November
Mr_Wes32

No, look for it on the back on of the 360, it should say MFN Date or something similar.