a tragedy

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

 about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

 Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

 what a tragedy.

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

 about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

 Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

 what a tragedy.

opiep333

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

what a tragedy.

opiep333

What's wrong with the police officers? Doesn't make sense. Just because he gave it too them doesn't justify the fact that it was handed to them, your friend EXPECTED IT BACK. That's like me borrowing your car for a day and not giving it back-- thats Grand Theft Auto. Now one you could be lieing, or two the cops down there have no understanding of the law. 

[QUOTE="opiep333"]

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

what a tragedy.

mjf249

What's wrong with the police officers? Doesn't make sense. Just because he gave it too them doesn't justify the fact that it was handed to them, your friend EXPECTED IT BACK. That's like me borrowing your car for a day and not giving it back-- thats Grand Theft Auto. Now one you could be lieing, or two the cops down there have no understanding of the law.

[QUOTE="mjf249"][QUOTE="opiep333"]

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

what a tragedy.

opiep333

What's wrong with the police officers? Doesn't make sense. Just because he gave it too them doesn't justify the fact that it was handed to them, your friend EXPECTED IT BACK. That's like me borrowing your car for a day and not giving it back-- thats Grand Theft Auto. Now one you could be lieing, or two the cops down there have no understanding of the law.

Because, that's still stolen property. Like I said before, if you let me borrow your car and I told you I'd bring it back to you later in the day and never did, the cops would do something about that-- thats robbery. They aren't just going to tell you "Oh well you gave it to them". Your claim is seriously flawed if the cops won't do anything about it.

Perhaps they just don't care-- but you'd think they'd try to do something about it to an extent.

could be worse, could've been megatsbythepig

Harsh but funny.

Yeah, that really sucks for your friend.

Because, that's still stolen property. Like I said before, if you let me borrow your car and I told you I'd bring it back to you later in the day and never did, the cops would do something about that-- thats robbery. They aren't just going to tell you "Oh well you gave it to them". Your claim is seriously flawed if the cops won't do anything about it.

Perhaps they just don't care-- but you'd think they'd try to do something about it to an extent.

opiep333

Because, that's still stolen property. Like I said before, if you let me borrow your car and I told you I'd bring it back to you later in the day and never did, the cops would do something about that-- thats robbery. They aren't just going to tell you "Oh well you gave it to them". Your claim is seriously flawed if the cops won't do anything about it.

Perhaps they just don't care-- but you'd think they'd try to do something about it to an extent.

Your cops are messed up.

Every police officer in the world is not cool, i'm sorry to inform you.

I've had a detective tell me before that he wouldn't look into something for me that was a crime. After explaining to him the situation which we both agreed was fraud and scam thereby a legal crime that cost me $550.00. The conversation went something like this:

Detective: "well let me put it this way, we currently have 71 open cases already".

Me: "Sorry, but it sounds like I'm getting the runaround here, I had a crime commited against me and I need to have it looked into"

....Sidenote - the law states I have 3 days or something stupid like that to right this wrong or it's no longer a crime were I can recover my money. I had all the information on the people including store they worked for, license plate, names. All they had to do was call.

Detective: "well basically I am giving you the run around" 

Me: "So you're basically telling me you're not going to do anything about it?"

Detective:  "No, why don't you try one of regular officers"

Me: "I have talked to your regular officers, filed a complaint, talked to the sargent on duty, and then the next morning spoke with another officer. All of them have directed me to you. They all said it's a crime that would be handled by a detective, they then gave me your name and number is how I got it".

Detective: "sorry I can't help you, I'd just let it go and learn from it".

Me: "Wow, so I have had a crime commited against me and I'm being told by a detective to just let it go. Please don't be offended but what happened to "serve and protect". If I were to take matters into my own hands you'de be at my doorstep arresting me in a heartbeat".

Detective: "probably. But again, I can't help you"

Me: "ok bye" and I hung up.

Very true story here. And in my personal opinion doesn't give me much confidence in our local police.

I believe what the TC posted can and probably did happen as stated. That sucks.

it sucks but it is not a tragedy. if the 360 fell on your friend's head and split it open i would say that's a tragedy.alsha3er78

 Split open the 360 or his friends head?

I was waiting for...."and then he died."Haphilli

rgsniper...what actually happened to you?opiep333

I'd love to tell you, but it's so embarrassing that I got scammed I'm afraid I could never come back to the forums. Trust me, I went around calling myself a tool for about the next two months.  

[QUOTE="opiep333"]rgsniper...what actually happened to you?rgsniper1

I'd love to tell you, but it's so embarrassing that I got scammed I'm afraid I could never come back to the forums. Trust me, I went around calling myself a tool for about the next two months.

[QUOTE="rgsniper1"]

[QUOTE="opiep333"]rgsniper...what actually happened to you?opiep333

I'd love to tell you, but it's so embarrassing that I got scammed I'm afraid I could never come back to the forums. Trust me, I went around calling myself a tool for about the next two months.

I would never admit that on a forum. But to each there own.

Lets make mine simple to save embarrasment. I got scammed by a store that was selling for a very very good price and using a very high profile magazine to push there goods. They were misrepresenting the quality and build of there products with all types of lies and comparisons. I later found out that the store didn't actually sell anything at all at regular price and that they paid to sneak actual junk products into a national high profile magazine (10 page spread). The magazine later apoligized and said no one would use our magazine to decide whether they should or should not buy this product so there should be no harm done. Then there forums flooded with people who got burned for as much and a whole lot more than I did because we trusted in them being a quality source that told the truth. They acknolwedged that said product was junk at that point and had no business being in there magazine. There's more to the story but I have to save a little face here.

Man now I remembering that very bad part of my life. The story I told doesn't sound "that" bad. If I told the rest of it, well yeah... That's all you're getting from me. 

LOL, wow i'm such a tool again. You are the topic creator.....

lol.. I'm an idiot.

edit... I was going to delete my post right before this as it portrays me as chrissy from threes company. But it's just so stupid of me and therefor funny I can't bring myself to do it. 

Wow that hurts bro, id probly go nuts and walk into the mall with a 38 spl., 12ga, and an m4 with fully loaded mags, i feel for ya manzerosolja

Hey if you can't laugh at yourself.....

Anyway, yeah it makes you rethink trusting people. Again I feel for your friend. 

Moral of the story: If you got beef with a retailer, give them an xbox 360.

I would never admit that on a forum. But to each there own.

Lets make mine simple to save embarrasment. I got scammed by a store that was selling for a very very good price and using a very high profile magazine to push there goods. They were misrepresenting the quality and build of there products with all types of lies and comparisons. I later found out that the store didn't actually sell anything at all at regular price and that they paid to sneak actual junk products into a national high profile magazine (10 page spread). The magazine later apoligized and said no one would use our magazine to decide whether they should or should not buy this product so there should be no harm done. Then there forums flooded with people who got burned for as much and a whole lot more than I did because we trusted in them being a quality source that told the truth. They acknolwedged that said product was junk at that point and had no business being in there magazine. There's more to the story but I have to save a little face here.

rgsniper1

 Did you fall for one of those "white van speakers scam" ?

There is always going to people out there to scam you like that. Thta's why you can never trust anyone, but that will help you to be more careful. But anyways take care guyszerosolja

The really sad thing about that is that I was very careful. I asked all the right questions and even told them that there deal sounded to good to be true and even mentioned in joking something like "this must be a scam". Honestly I was very very careful. If I told the rest of the story, which I wont (and I'm sorry for teasing) you'de better understand just how careful I was. 

Anyway, I think I'm out for the night. For the TC, tell your friend to at least know it happens to all kinds of people and happens a lot. It sucks what happened to him, but to find a way to get past it and forget about it as it sounds like there's nothing he can do. I know that's what I ended up doing. Later.

[QUOTE="rgsniper1"]I would never admit that on a forum. But to each there own.

Lets make mine simple to save embarrasment. I got scammed by a store that was selling for a very very good price and using a very high profile magazine to push there goods. They were misrepresenting the quality and build of there products with all types of lies and comparisons. I later found out that the store didn't actually sell anything at all at regular price and that they paid to sneak actual junk products into a national high profile magazine (10 page spread). The magazine later apoligized and said no one would use our magazine to decide whether they should or should not buy this product so there should be no harm done. Then there forums flooded with people who got burned for as much and a whole lot more than I did because we trusted in them being a quality source that told the truth. They acknolwedged that said product was junk at that point and had no business being in there magazine. There's more to the story but I have to save a little face here.

thecrazykevy

Did you fall for one of those "white van speakers scam" ?

Lets just say very very close. After researching on my situation extensively I can say I came across that topic many times. The big difference here is that this place had an actual location. But very good guess.

edit... if you're familier with that than you'll understand what happened to me more or less. 

I was waiting for...."and then he died."Haphilli

what was the name of the store? or was it like a small electronic stall in the mall?

murt

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

 about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

 Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

 what a tragedy.

opiep333

Back in the day when I was in to Magic: the Gathering, I wanted to make some trades with a store owner in a strip mall, he asked me to leave my cards so he could "price them" and told me I could come back later. Needless to say, I walked out of there (cards in hand) and never went back.

 
Don't trust people you don't eat and drink with. If you do not sit down and eat lunch or drink beer with a person on a regular basis, they are not someone you let touch your stuff, period. Never loan your friends money unless you don't mind giving it to them freely, don't buy your girlfriend feminine products, and buy your books with cash.

Sorry about your friends 360, without any kind of documentation he is absolutely screwed, and if the place went out of business, even if you can track down the owner, you might not be able to get anything (again lack of documentation, out of business - "I've never seen this guy and I'm broke...") 

While it is definitely true that there are lazy police officers it is also true that many have impossible caseloads to resolve. That doesn't make you any less of a victim and it doesn't mean you aren't entitled to get your money back or have the criminal punished, but if the next case file is ol' granny who got pilfered out of her $100,000.00 nest egg your case is suddenly not all that important. It sucks but the police will never get ahead of the crime rate, they're always playing catch up.cgoodman

Macro - I'll give you this much, it's an Electronics store near Livonia (detroit) Michigan. If they are still around that is.  It's been a while since my situation happened. 

cgoodman - while I agree with you, I also believe you agree with me in saying. As a person that has had a crime commited against them I don't really care how many cases they have. If they don't have enough people to work them, then the guy or his boss or his bosses boss should do his job and continually petition for more detectives. Otherwise it's absurd to ever here "don't take the law into your own hands" unless they add this to the end "don't take the law into your own hands, unless the cops are to busy and blow you off, at which point you're good". I understand the guy appeared overworked, but as you said it doesn't help me out in my situation. The only thing that doesn't sit well with me is that this detective wouldn't have to scoure the city or do much real detective work as the general information was ready to be handed to him by me including all the identification information he'd need. Basically he'd just have to make a phone call or go to the location to do most of the case immediately. Anyway, that's my story.

[QUOTE="opiep333"][QUOTE="mjf249"][QUOTE="opiep333"]

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

what a tragedy.

mjf249

What's wrong with the police officers? Doesn't make sense. Just because he gave it too them doesn't justify the fact that it was handed to them, your friend EXPECTED IT BACK. That's like me borrowing your car for a day and not giving it back-- thats Grand Theft Auto. Now one you could be lieing, or two the cops down there have no understanding of the law.

Because, that's still stolen property. Like I said before, if you let me borrow your car and I told you I'd bring it back to you later in the day and never did, the cops would do something about that-- thats robbery. They aren't just going to tell you "Oh well you gave it to them". Your claim is seriously flawed if the cops won't do anything about it.

Perhaps they just don't care-- but you'd think they'd try to do something about it to an extent.

when you want something done right, DO IT YOUR SELF!!!!!!!!! SO TAKE ACTION

tell him to send a letter to microsoft DEMANDING something from them...

In the letter he should write his whole life story from when he bought his 360.

NO MAKE A MOVIE AND SEND IT TO THEM!!!

[QUOTE="opiep333"]

this story is about a close friend of mine. this is not a personal experience.

so a few months ago, my friend and are are racing on burnout via live, and he disconnects. I call him up and harass him for quitting when i was winning. He informs me that his game is scratched. So he takes it back, has to buy a new copy. We are playing again, and once more it disconnects. He says screw this and isnt gonna buy another copy.

He calls up MS thinking something is wrong, and they say its cause his sub is too close to his 360 and its shaking the disc. He takes his 360 downstairs cause he is moving his room to the basement. Madden is now scratched (no it was not in the 360 when he carried it).

HE takes his 360 back to where he purchased it and the guy tells him he will ship it back to MS for free and get it repaired/replaced.

about a month passes and he thinks, my 360 should be coming back soon... He goes to the shop to find no one there. THe store has moved. All his contacts are disconnected, the mall has no info as to where he went and MS has no record of recieving the 360. The police wont deal with it because he gave him the 360 willingly, so its not a robbery.

My mom works for the better business beareu and said that there are 3 other complaints of the exact same thing happening.

Now my friend is 360-less and down over 500 dollars.

what a tragedy.

gatsbythepig