Achievements don't show skill

I've always thought that the gamerscore should represent how good a player is. But it doesn't seem to, as half the achievements don't have anything to do with skill. Take Halo 3 for example, if you collect skulls you get gamer points, i mean, what skill is there in finding a skull and picking it up for a couple of seconds, especially in a shooter, it's not like it's some sort of puzzle game. It bugs that most of my friends have higher gamerscores, but whenever i play them online, i really am the better player.

I feel that gamer points have gone abit off track from what they were originally trying to show. Games now seem to make achievements make you play a game differently, or do something you wouldn't normally do. Whereas they should really aim majority of there points available at the likes of completing the story mode on the hardest difficulty, or going on a massive killing spree online.

who else thinks that gamer points should be untially about how good the player is, raither then what small irrelivant thing they've done?

a bit condradicting mr TC, u mention halo 3 not having good achievements and say it should ones for completing it on hardest difficulty

but i agree, some of these are way too easy

i think there cool i make you want to go back to the game and get the rest of them. Gives a lot of games replay valueflash69

Exactly, it's more for your own enjoyment than letting others see how high a score you have. It's fun unlocking achievements, they're like little goals you can aim for within a game.

I like the pop up that we get for unlocking achievements =) Makes me smile so thats why I try to get them

I know, sounds lame but w/e

I like the pop up that we get for unlocking achievements =) Makes me smile so thats why I try to get them

I know, sounds lame but w/e

Shade-Blade

But the "(friend) is online sound" is the same :o

I disagree because if you were to go against someone that has the platinum badge in pgr3 or the tournament qualifier badge and you dont have it, i really really doubt you will beat them in any race.

Moral of the story it really depends on the games achievements i think halo is meant to be more fun but in pgr3 those were more skill then anything. On the pgr4 website they said if you unlocked the platinum badge in pgr3 you were in the top 1% of the best racers.

Achievements may not show skill in most cases, but they do increase how many times you replay a game(if done well), and sometimes gets you to play games differently, which to me is very important, and a awesome feature to have.goallie

Thats assuming you give a hoot about achievements. I havent played a game longer than I would have normally to get achievements yet. Im probably the minority though.

[QUOTE="goallie"]Achievements may not show skill in most cases, but they do increase how many times you replay a game(if done well), and sometimes gets you to play games differently, which to me is very important, and a awesome feature to have.Clan_Crushbone

Thats assuming you give a hoot about achievements. I havent played a game longer than I would have normally to get achievements yet. Im probably the minority though.

1) the skulls are in difficult to reach places so even if you know where they are it still takes skill to reach them.

2) Many achievements do reward you for those things (ex. complete campaign on legendary and killing frenzy)

3) Whats wrong with offering incentive to play differently? That extents the life of a game and enjoyment.

i like a good mix of achievement types. some are simple and come along with completing the game, and some are insane and actually do show how skilled a player is, like extreme soldier in lost planet. i got the full 1000, and there's no co-op in that bad boy.

:P

No, I like how their set up. They were never ment to show how skilled a player is, for me, all they do is add more replay value to a game.Shrapnel99

Some achievements show skill and some don't.

Regardless, achievements can add a bit of challenge to some games, especially during the slow release times.

I've always thought that the gamerscore should represent how good a player is. But it doesn't seem to, as half the achievements don't have anything to do with skill. Take Halo 3 for example, if you collect skulls you get gamer points, i mean, what skill is there in finding a skull and picking it up for a couple of seconds, especially in a shooter, it's not like it's some sort of puzzle game. It bugs that most of my friends have higher gamerscores, but whenever i play them online, i really am the better player.

I feel that gamer points have gone abit off track from what they were originally trying to show. Games now seem to make achievements make you play a game differently, or do something you wouldn't normally do. Whereas they should really aim majority of there points available at the likes of completing the story mode on the hardest difficulty, or going on a massive killing spree online.

who else thinks that gamer points should be untially about how good the player is, raither then what small irrelivant thing they've done?

samcotts

it shows persistence and dedication though. that has to count for something.

yeah im kinda afraid to play with someone if they have under 2000 points, but it dosent really bother me, but its not that hard to find the skulls u just have to watch the vid on youtube

to me achievements is somethingthat i canproof myself that i can do them, not really a skill

[QUOTE="Clan_Crushbone"]

[QUOTE="goallie"]Achievements may not show skill in most cases, but they do increase how many times you replay a game(if done well), and sometimes gets you to play games differently, which to me is very important, and a awesome feature to have.goallie

Thats assuming you give a hoot about achievements. I havent played a game longer than I would have normally to get achievements yet. Im probably the minority though.

theyre just things to give the gamer something different to do. why else would you search for something, or get of another, why bother to beat the game on hard or travel that extra time to the farthest point in the game. some ach. may show skill but for me, most of them arfe just fun to get

Thats why its called Achivments and not Skill thingys. It shows what you have achived in a game. Not how good you are. And I agree to the way it works now.
And this isent really for hardcore gamers, its more for the common gamer, that never care about how good thay are online, and just likes to see what thay have done in the game. And a way to prove what thay have done.

No, keep the system as it is. Its great.

No, I like how their set up. They were never ment to show how skilled a player is, for me, all they do is add more replay value to a game.Shrapnel99

Amen

I like achievements alots, but I like the idea oftrophies more. Of course everyone here would disagree.

they cant show skill...and tahts ot what their for...they give replay value and show how in to a game you might have beenClinton015

Many people cheat to get achievements. I only bother to get single player ahcievements, i don't make an effort to get the MP ones.

I've always thought that the gamerscore should represent how good a player is. But it doesn't seem to, as half the achievements don't have anything to do with skill. Take Halo 3 for example, if you collect skulls you get gamer points, i mean, what skill is there in finding a skull and picking it up for a couple of seconds, especially in a shooter, it's not like it's some sort of puzzle game. It bugs that most of my friends have higher gamerscores, but whenever i play them online, i really am the better player.

I feel that gamer points have gone abit off track from what they were originally trying to show. Games now seem to make achievements make you play a game differently, or do something you wouldn't normally do. Whereas they should really aim majority of there points available at the likes of completing the story mode on the hardest difficulty, or going on a massive killing spree online.

who else thinks that gamer points should be untially about how good the player is, raither then what small irrelivant thing they've done?

samcotts

If you are truely so much better, then you should have the higher gamerscore. You should have all the same things they have unlocked, plus stuff they can't. I like they way they are set up for the most part. King Kong to me me is an example of when they are done wrong. I think thre ones that are insanely difficult to get are annoying. DOA4 for example was overly difficult.

I've always thought that the gamerscore should represent how good a player is. But it doesn't seem to, as half the achievements don't have anything to do with skill. Take Halo 3 for example, if you collect skulls you get gamer points, i mean, what skill is there in finding a skull and picking it up for a couple of seconds, especially in a shooter, it's not like it's some sort of puzzle game. It bugs that most of my friends have higher gamerscores, but whenever i play them online, i really am the better player.

I feel that gamer points have gone abit off track from what they were originally trying to show. Games now seem to make achievements make you play a game differently, or do something you wouldn't normally do. Whereas they should really aim majority of there points available at the likes of completing the story mode on the hardest difficulty, or going on a massive killing spree online.

who else thinks that gamer points should be untially about how good the player is, raither then what small irrelivant thing they've done?

samcotts

I dont pay attention honestly but the skulls are pretty hard to find occasionally and it shows how the player searched for them.Shade-Blade

Achievements do show skill (For some games)

Example Ghost Recon 2, you get achievements for the number of headshots, stealthy etc.

For some games you can only get achievements by completing on difficult settings - which requires skill and you have to not be a noob to finish games on difficult settings.

Ghost Recon is one of those games that require SKILL as its not a straight run and gun. It requires you to use your brain and a lot of tactics is involved which is why i like it a lot.