Analyst: $150 Kinect Price is 'Appropriate'

If our 1UP user comments are any indication, most gamers seem to feel that Kinect's $150 price point is too high, but at least one analyst begs to differ. In a statement received by us this morning, EEDAR analyst Jesse Divinch called the price "appropriate," comparing it to band kits bundled with the Guitar Hero and Rock Band games.

"Previous peripherals with mass-market appeal, such as band kits, have sold millions of units worldwide even while priced north of $150," explained Divinch, who noted that the band kits could only be used with music games, while Kinect developers "will be able to optimize its software for years to come.

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he's an idiot. unfortunately there will be a lot of other idiots who will agree with him and buy the thingAJC3317

[QUOTE="AJC3317"]he's an idiot. unfortunately there will be a lot of other idiots who will agree with him and buy the thingalexwatchtower

What about it is worth $150? It never seemed worth anything more than $75 to me.

[QUOTE="alexwatchtower"][QUOTE="AJC3317"]he's an idiot. unfortunately there will be a lot of other idiots who will agree with him and buy the thingEllimem

What about it is worth $150? It never seemed worth anything more than $75 to me.

he's an idiot. unfortunately there will be a lot of other idiots who will agree with him and buy the thingAJC3317

Would he get fired if he says it's to much.

Microsoft probably paid him. Obvious, so obvious. $99 seems like a better price point.Elian2530

If you buy a Rock Band set you get the game with it and you get to play something you enjoy. Not only that you can buy any new games that come out and still have the kit and you're likely to enjoy the games. Buying a Kinect means buying nothing else but the peripheral. You have to then go out and spend even more on the games and the games to me look bland at best and not worth the money. You're looking at a price of at least 200 for Kinect with a game for it. That's not a good deal at all. Whoever that analyst was is an idiot.wwervin

[QUOTE="wwervin"]If you buy a Rock Band set you get the game with it and you get to play something you enjoy. Not only that you can buy any new games that come out and still have the kit and you're likely to enjoy the games. Buying a Kinect means buying nothing else but the peripheral. You have to then go out and spend even more on the games and the games to me look bland at best and not worth the money. You're looking at a price of at least 200 for Kinect with a game for it. That's not a good deal at all. Whoever that analyst was is an idiot.alexwatchtower

The same type of people who go out and buy the latest new Iphone or car every year are probably going to buy this without even giving it a second thought.

[QUOTE="alexwatchtower"][QUOTE="wwervin"]If you buy a Rock Band set you get the game with it and you get to play something you enjoy. Not only that you can buy any new games that come out and still have the kit and you're likely to enjoy the games. Buying a Kinect means buying nothing else but the peripheral. You have to then go out and spend even more on the games and the games to me look bland at best and not worth the money. You're looking at a price of at least 200 for Kinect with a game for it. That's not a good deal at all. Whoever that analyst was is an idiot.wwervin

Anyone remember that tony hawk skateboard flop? I predict this new hardware add-on will be just as memorable. Unfortunately, microsoft is going to want to jam it down our throats... that means excessive resources spent on a fraction of a percent of their entire market :(

I really see this as an advanced web cam game, which, let's be honest, were annoying and, in the case of web cam volleyball, caused too many neck injuries.

Eh, I still think it's overpriced. There will still be those that're willing to pay $150 for it though, I'd rather spend my money elsewhere :P

Didnt they say already that sales are down across the board on kinict..Wont buy it until it drops myself..Also wont touch the thing until i see how devs develop things for it..It will take a year or two for decent games to come out for it..Than youl have the new consoles announced an it will be to late for kinict to take off..Im sure though the next box or ps3 will come with kinict in tact with it..Since every one seams to think thats why the wii took off..Im sure it is but ah well..Let these guys think that 150 is already i hope microsoft gets burned for this gimick,,

Didnt they say already that sales are down across the board on kinict..Wont buy it until it drops myself..Also wont touch the thing until i see how devs develop things for it..It will take a year or two for decent games to come out for it..Than youl have the new consoles announced an it will be to late for kinict to take off..Im sure though the next box or ps3 will come with kinict in tact with it..Since every one seams to think thats why the wii took off..Im sure it is but ah well..Let these guys think that 150 is already i hope microsoft gets burned for this gimick,,

Gladestone1

Wel it's funy to see americans think it's overpriced

in my country it will be 150 euro that's 193 dollars.

for all I care microsoft can stick that camera in a spot where the sun won't shine

if it would be the same price as a guitar hero bundle 99 euro I would think about it but for 150.....................they are nuts

Waiting for interesting games with Kinect is appropriate.

the $150 price is not appropriate, its to expensive,

they will be selling Kinect for what works out at $100 in the bundle with the 4gb xbox, so they can afford to sell it for $100 and still make a profit if they choose to, they just arent

while im at it the price difference between the 4gb at $200, and the 250gb at $300 shows that they are over charging for the 250gb also, because the only difference between the two models is the hard drive size and yet it costs $100 more......

the $150 price is not appropriate, its to expensive,

they will be selling Kinect for what works out at $100 in the bundle with the 4gb xbox, so they can afford to sell it for $100 and still make a profit if they choose to, they just arent

while im at it the price difference between the 4gb at $200, and the 250gb at $300 shows that they are over charging for the 250gb also, because the only difference between the two models is the hard drive size and yet it costs $100 more......

NoDzombie

They are if you look at it in that way, but we don't know how their profit margins break down. In other words they could be losing a small amount of money on the Kinect/Arcade bundle by selling it at $199 so they make it up on the other model.

And btw to those of you that say Kinect is too expensive at $150....have you taken a look lately at what a regular middle of the pack camera costs at Best-Buy? They're only good for taking high res pictures, and they don't come with a free game. Just saying....

I agree with him. Kinect is just a little over the price of two brand new games. Ive spent more than $150 in one order on games many times. I don't see why people are complaining. Its new technology which does some pretty impressive stuff. If you think about it, a multi-camera that records your movements nearly perfect, uses no devices, and comes with a game that will retail $50 (even though its more like a beta) isn't that bad for $150. People didn't mind spending over $100 to get the rock band or guitar hero sets.

Once well-known titles start coming out that really put you in the action come out i bet people will jump right on it. Casting spells as harry potter just as done in the movies or playing GTA where you travel the city yourself full control over all movements such as guns, vehicles, fist fights, grabbing objects, and throwing.

I agree with him. Kinect is just a little over the price of two brand new games. Ive spent more than $150 in one order on games many times. I don't see why people are complaining. Its new technology which does some pretty impressive stuff. If you think about it, a multi-camera that records your movements nearly perfect, uses no devices, and comes with a game that will retail $50 (even though its more like a beta) isn't that bad for $150. People didn't mind spending over $100 to get the rock band or guitar hero sets.

Once well-known titles start coming out that really put you in the action come out i bet people will jump right on it. Casting spells as harry potter just as done in the movies or playing GTA where you travel the city yourself full control over all movements such as guns, vehicles, fist fights, grabbing objects, and throwing.

jjivey

you are never going to have full body control using it, for a start you cant look/turn sideways without looking away from the screen, how would that work?

and what about fitness levels, in a game like GTA or any open world game or even an FPS multiplayer for that matter, how much running jumping and climbing do you do, a hell of a lot, now im not a fat dude by any stretch of imagination, but im also not an olympic athlete, i would never want to play a game with full body control/immersion it would be like going to the gym!

[QUOTE="jjivey"]

I agree with him. Kinect is just a little over the price of two brand new games. Ive spent more than $150 in one order on games many times. I don't see why people are complaining. Its new technology which does some pretty impressive stuff. If you think about it, a multi-camera that records your movements nearly perfect, uses no devices, and comes with a game that will retail $50 (even though its more like a beta) isn't that bad for $150. People didn't mind spending over $100 to get the rock band or guitar hero sets.

Once well-known titles start coming out that really put you in the action come out i bet people will jump right on it. Casting spells as harry potter just as done in the movies or playing GTA where you travel the city yourself full control over all movements such as guns, vehicles, fist fights, grabbing objects, and throwing.

NoDzombie

you are never going to have full body control using it, for a start you cant look/turn sideways without looking away from the screen, how would that work?

and what about fitness levels, in a game like GTA or any open world game or even an FPS multiplayer for that matter, how much running jumping and climbing do you do, a hell of a lot, now im not a fat dude by any stretch of imagination, but im also not an olympic athlete, i would never want to play a game with full body control/immersion it would be like going to the gym!

yea true that, was doing some reading and it sure has a lot of room for fault. Was watching some people sprint for like 20 seconds on the sports game. I could do it, but like you said were not athletes. A lot of the tech demos i saw just seemed to "organized" like the knew how to avoid the obvious problems. I think the turning you mentioned will be more controlled by swinging your body in the direction rather than your head, but who knows.

Far as price its fair, nobody can argue with that unless your just not capable of affording it. Ill probably wait for this to become mainstreamed and perfected and in the process you will see a price drop. Kinect Slim or something.

im 50/50. I want to believe but reading all the negative things, it seems it will be hard to perfect. How do you tell a song or movie to pause if your blasting the volume? Or an ass hat tells your movie to stop? How will kinect know that i just want to keep scrolling rather than think im making a circle with my hand? How will the kinect be more precise than your hands on a controller? I can see people getting really pissed when the kinect does the opposite of what you wanted just cause its doing like its designed.

[QUOTE="jjivey"]

I agree with him. Kinect is just a little over the price of two brand new games. Ive spent more than $150 in one order on games many times. I don't see why people are complaining. Its new technology which does some pretty impressive stuff. If you think about it, a multi-camera that records your movements nearly perfect, uses no devices, and comes with a game that will retail $50 (even though its more like a beta) isn't that bad for $150. People didn't mind spending over $100 to get the rock band or guitar hero sets.

Once well-known titles start coming out that really put you in the action come out i bet people will jump right on it. Casting spells as harry potter just as done in the movies or playing GTA where you travel the city yourself full control over all movements such as guns, vehicles, fist fights, grabbing objects, and throwing.

NoDzombie

you are never going to have full body control using it, for a start you cant look/turn sideways without looking away from the screen, how would that work?

and what about fitness levels, in a game like GTA or any open world game or even an FPS multiplayer for that matter, how much running jumping and climbing do you do, a hell of a lot, now im not a fat dude by any stretch of imagination, but im also not an olympic athlete, i would never want to play a game with full body control/immersion it would be like going to the gym!

Who says you have to use Kinect alone for that or in that way?

Why would a developer make you run around forever in GTA? Some people on here are seriously missing the different ways you can use Kinect, the many ways OTHER than doing EXACTLY what the character does on screen or vice versa and the fact that you can mix Kinect with the tradional controller.

Why couldn't I just drive the car with Kinect or even the analog stick and just use my hand when I want to do a drive by out the window? JUST THAT little change right there makes that aspect of controlling GTA much better, more accurate and more fun. Or if shooting is a problem why not just aim with my left towards who I want to shoot and push the A button to fire.

Wouldn't that be infinetly better, faster and more accurate than using my analog stick to both steer the car AND move my little jerky circle all over the place? Or how about when driving a motorcycle? Why can't I just extend my arm out and have my character do the same or even with a bat? How much fun with it be to be riding those bikes and just simply extend your arm out to knock the crap out of a bunch of pedestrians or bad guys? Or imagine controlling just the bike sections with your hands, pulling wheelies, etc, while still sitting on the comfort of your couch? Instead of running behind a car and tapping A to get in, why not just simply wave them down?

Why implement Kinect in games in a tedious, clearly not fun way?

You do have the possibility of mixing Kinect with the standard controller or use one for separate sections of a game like GTA.

[QUOTE="NoDzombie"]

the $150 price is not appropriate, its to expensive,

they will be selling Kinect for what works out at $100 in the bundle with the 4gb xbox, so they can afford to sell it for $100 and still make a profit if they choose to, they just arent

while im at it the price difference between the 4gb at $200, and the 250gb at $300 shows that they are over charging for the 250gb also, because the only difference between the two models is the hard drive size and yet it costs $100 more......

alexwatchtower

They are if you look at it in that way, but we don't know how their profit margins break down. In other words they could be losing a small amount of money on the Kinect/Arcade bundle by selling it at $199 so they make it up on the other model.

And btw to those of you that say Kinect is too expensive at $150....have you taken a look lately at what a regular middle of the pack camera costs at Best-Buy? They're only good for taking high res pictures, and they don't come with a free game. Just saying....

Yeah I'm sure it will sell at $150, but it would sell like crazy at $75.

$99 seems like a better price point.Elian2530

Yes, it does. I would very much consider it at $99.

Kinect will be great for families, console owners up to about 15 years old and late nights after the pub with mates. Unfortunately I don't fall into either of the first 2 categories. After seeing how much dust the Wii gathered after the novelty wore off, I won't be buying it just to entertain my mates after closing time.

I'll be curious to see how well it does. Microsoft have it pegged as the next big thing that is going to extend the life of the 360. Personally I think the 360 is starting to lag behind graphically now, especially to the PC, and this isn;t going to fix that. Plus the price point for Kinect is way too high to buy for curiosity's sake and will put a lot of casuals off.

The games that are announced so far do nothing to lure me in and they are going to be the key do it's success or failure. Further down the line if they launched a headset/visor to go with it to give more of a full-on VR experience then I could see that definitely interesting me.