Any logical reasons why Xbox360 is selling so poorly in Japan..

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#1 OoSuperMarioO
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feel free to drop some details..

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#2 UKLTLEMON
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Easy lack of rpgs lack of games lack of good characters and high price
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#3 gameclearer
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they dont like america or microsoft.
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#4 chaoscougar1
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Microsoft=American

PlayStation+Nintendo=Japanese

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#5 fazio93
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they dont like america or microsoft.gameclearer

lol. yea

also, they don't like the game line-up like FPS and all. they are into RPG and stuff. maybe they will buy 360s when Naruto comes out. :)

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#6 sandroDX
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lack of more JRPGs is one of the reasons, when Lost Odyssey comes out 360 sales should go up a bit, like it did when Blue Dragon came out
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#7 x-2tha-z
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The 360 isn't a Japanese console. I think it's as simple as that.
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[QUOTE="gameclearer"]they dont like america or microsoft.fazio93

lol. yea

also, they don't like the game line-up like FPS and all. they are into RPG and stuff. maybe they will buy 360s when Naruto comes out. :)

Misconception. I play many Japanese in CS on PC. I also play many in Gears, Halo 2, and Lost Planet (almost an FPS).

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[QUOTE="fazio93"]

[QUOTE="gameclearer"]they dont like america or microsoft.Neoyamaneko

lol. yea

also, they don't like the game line-up like FPS and all. they are into RPG and stuff. maybe they will buy 360s when Naruto comes out. :)

Misconception. I play many Japanese in CS on PC. I also play many in Gears, Halo 2, and Lost Planet (almost an FPS).

sorr bout OT,but once i was playing socom on psp and this japanese kid starts talking a mic in COMPLETE japnese or soe other asian language and we had no idea what he was saying

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#10 OoSuperMarioO
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The 360 isn't a Japanese console. I think it's as simple as that.x-2tha-z
This isnt logic bud sorry no offense but the xbox 360 is a product in japan thus making it a japanese console.
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they dont like america or microsoft.gameclearer

They love iPods (American product) and I'm sure they have no real problems with using windows on the computers (MS product) so it likely has more to do with the game selection than anything else.

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#12 x-2tha-z
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[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]The 360 isn't a Japanese console. I think it's as simple as that.OoSuperMarioO
This isnt logic bud sorry no offense but the xbox 360 is a product in japan thus making it a japanese console.

You're right. That isn't logical. I'll go with it though. I live in England and I own some consoles so the Xbox 360, PS3, PS2 and Xbox are British consoles.

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[QUOTE="gameclearer"]they dont like america or microsoft.fazio93

lol. yea

also, they don't like the game line-up like FPS and all. they are into RPG and stuff. maybe they will buy 360s when Naruto comes out. :)

Actually the japanese are into fps. I happen to live in japan and i play with them all the time. The problem is, the games arent released worldwide at the same time. They have to wait up to 4 months for the japanese version of some titles like GRAW 2 or RSV. The games are also priced outrageously high even if they're 2 years old. NBA Live 06 is still 6200 yen, which is about $56 american. In many stores i go to, the 360 section is very small. The Wii section is huge and the ps3 section isn't as big as the wii, but still has a larger section then the 360. Having to wait for the japanese release of games is a big turnoff to the japanese.

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As it's been stated, there is somewhat of a brand loyalty thing going on, perhaps with an element of buying Japanese vs. buying American (like we used to do with cars in America before GM and Ford just completely gave up and dropped quality but not price). I think it's more related to the fact that MS didn't have any luck getting the Xbox to sell over there, and they just don't really have the market penetration. They're releasing the games over there... Japan has some really cool stuff on 360 right now, like that Onacheeb-whatever Vortex game. The 360's doing better over there now that MS got a clue and is releasing JRPGs... Blue Dragon gave the console a sales bump over there and Lost Odyssey will likely do the same, but the trick is to get a whole bunch of people to buy a console that they don't have over there. Sometimes you get a Turbographix 16 situation, and then sometimes you have a SEGA Genesis situation. I don't really think the 360's going to go TOO far over there, but next generation around they should have more respect in that marketplace.
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Because Microsoft refuses to get good Japanese 3rd party support. Almost all the 360's best games are shooters with many being FPS's. Those aren't huge in Japan. If Microsoft would get the Japanese developers on board, the console would sell a bit better. They really need to do what they can to start selling in Japan. Microsoft will never win a console war if they cannot sell in Japan. They failed with the Xbox and they failed with the 360. Nintendo is already close to catching Microsoft in the war and eventually Sony will be right their too. This is all do to Japan because the 360 is actually selling very well in NA and Europe.
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I'm not sure. i don't want to make any assumptions.but i do remember that at one point in japanthe trade in value of a ds lite was higher than the trade in value of a 360.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/23/ds-lite-trumps-xbox-360s-trade-in-value-in-japan/

heh.

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[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]The 360 isn't a Japanese console. I think it's as simple as that.OoSuperMarioO
This isnt logic bud sorry no offense but the xbox 360 is a product in japan thus making it a japanese console.

So if a brazilian mango is sold in France, that makes it a French mango. That's your logic. Japan is an island, it's a very insular place, and even now not very open to outside culture. It's culture may be spreading all around the world, but ours isn't really gaining a foothold there. Japanese see the 360 as foreign, the 'shooter box' , it doesn't even have Final Fantasy on it ! which the Japanese cherish a lot. Why would you buy a console when a majority of it's games are made by foreign developpers who probably don't share the same sensibilty as you, when you could buy a Japanese console that's full of unoriginal JRPG series or games with the name Mario in them ?
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#18 jimmygrace
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They hate America and hate shooters.
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#19 Trogeton
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Its always been like that... but that is Japan, It doesnt matter what goes on there
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#20 Dogswithguns
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The PS3 doesnt do well in Japan either.the Wii is..... so what's your point?
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#21 Staryoshi87
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Lost Planet, Blue Dragon, and Eternal Sonata can only move so many consoles ;)

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#22 Staryoshi87
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They hate America and hate shooters.jimmygrace

Where the heck is all this "they hate america" bs coming from? Japan has a history of not liking outsiders, but a lot of our stuff seems to do well over there.

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Because Microsoft refuses to get good Japanese 3rd party support. Almost all the 360's best games are shooters with many being FPS's. Those aren't huge in Japan. If Microsoft would get the Japanese developers on board, the console would sell a bit better. They really need to do what they can to start selling in Japan. Microsoft will never win a console war if they cannot sell in Japan. They failed with the Xbox and they failed with the 360. Nintendo is already close to catching Microsoft in the war and eventually Sony will be right their too. This is all do to Japan because the 360 is actually selling very well in NA and Europe.Rocky32189

I think you need to give Microsoft a little more credit. They are clearly trying to get Japanese 3rd party support and arguably have the best selection of JRPGs availible and up and coming as of now. Of course, they would need to release a Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey calibre RPG every month or so in order to get an even slight foothold in Japan.

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#24 contaminated
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yerp just like what everyone else said its the games. It not that the games are bad they get good reviews over at Japan its just that they don't appeal to the Japanese audience.
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#25 76ers
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They are really picky about the games but we can start to see MS trying to release games that fit their style. Probably won't change much but at least they are trying...
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Umm . . . . . Its the Xbox 360. Duh! :roll:
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]The 360 isn't a Japanese console. I think it's as simple as that.gabwa007
This isnt logic bud sorry no offense but the xbox 360 is a product in japan thus making it a japanese console.

So if a brazilian mango is sold in France, that makes it a French mango. That's your logic. Japan is an island, it's a very insular place, and even now not very open to outside culture. It's culture may be spreading all around the world, but ours isn't really gaining a foothold there. Japanese see the 360 as foreign, the 'shooter box' , it doesn't even have Final Fantasy on it ! which the Japanese cherish a lot. Why would you buy a console when a majority of it's games are made by foreign developpers who probably don't share the same sensibilty as you, when you could buy a Japanese console that's full of unoriginal JRPG series or games with the name Mario in them ?

are you serious? have u ever even been there before... i happen to be japanese and ive lived for almost my whole life on the air bases and what you have said is wrong... the country is not isolated in any way, if anybody has actually even been there you will see that the country actually loves foregn items, places, etc... the top favorite is of course american products, japan is actually becoming more like america ever day so its not anything about brand loyalty, it could be the fact that they are just more familiar with the sony and nintendo products... also its true that RPGs do sell well there its not those that make the system, there, whenever i went to TSUTAYA (Japanese Blockbuster practically) i would always see games for the xbox rented out and for the other systems the RPGS were usually not the ones that were rented out..... i dont liver there anymore because i had to move but i dont think the country had a complete overhaul in under 2 years

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#29 OoSuperMarioO
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]The 360 isn't a Japanese console. I think it's as simple as that.gabwa007
This isnt logic bud sorry no offense but the xbox 360 is a product in japan thus making it a japanese console.

So if a brazilian mango is sold in France, that makes it a French mango. That's your logic. Japan is an island, it's a very insular place, and even now not very open to outside culture. It's culture may be spreading all around the world, but ours isn't really gaining a foothold there. Japanese see the 360 as foreign, the 'shooter box' , it doesn't even have Final Fantasy on it ! which the Japanese cherish a lot. Why would you buy a console when a majority of it's games are made by foreign developpers who probably don't share the same sensibilty as you, when you could buy a Japanese console that's full of unoriginal JRPG series or games with the name Mario in them ?

So um whats your point bud stop beating around the bush with logic about a culture I really dont care about.Like you said if that Brazil mango is sold in France it will be label as french product but it will be from Brazil just to correct you.If you a mexican living in america you would be label as american but you will still be be from mexico, same case with consoles.
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they dont like america or microsoft.gameclearer
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#31 NFJSupreme
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honestly why should I care about sales in a country I don't live in?
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#32 attorihanzo
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FPS= failure in japan

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#33 Tamashii-sosaku
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The 360 isn't selling so... Japan must hate America!

#Slow Claps#

Well done everyone. Though I've often wondered why it is that the i-pod does so well over here. Guess they don't hate all American technology. Could it be that people in Japan aren't exactly falling over themselves to buy the follow to a console that had not a single Japanese RPG on it and absolutley bombed? Nope they just hate Americans right? Yeah that must be it.

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[QUOTE="gameclearer"]they dont like america or microsoft.ozzdog123

Good for them.

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#35 gillri
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]The 360 isn't a Japanese console. I think it's as simple as that.x-2tha-z

This isnt logic bud sorry no offense but the xbox 360 is a product in japan thus making it a japanese console.

You're right. That isn't logical. I'll go with it though. I live in England and I own some consoles so the Xbox 360, PS3, PS2 and Xbox are British consoles.

alot of americans wouldnt get that mate, its the dry english hunour

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#36 priestinacloset
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they dont hate america but take great pride in buying fromhome grown Japanese companies and a lack of 3rd party support from overseas