Anybody still on their first 360 ?

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damn straight, just keep in open space

Just sent mine in....see you in a month :(

since launch. travelled to africa and back with it.still works. love it. if it breaks im getting an elite.Soldi3r1stClass

While wording this topic did the TC stop to consider the fact that there's a 30% failure rate?

Let's think about this. 30% means that there is a 70% success rate (i.e. no RRoD). While 30% is high, it's still not majority. So why bother asking the question when statistically most people are still on their first 360?

I bought mine in February of last year and still on my first console. I'm very happy MS did the 3 year thing. :D

Me! Do I win somethin'? :|

Still on my first, after over a year. Never had any problems. I still think the 30% figure is way overblown. I doubt it is really that high. I remember all the boards after the first warranty extension, and a bunch of people saying they were going to send their in to get the quieter DVD drive. I mean, come on. I also talked to a few friends who work at GameStop (two different stores)--neither has seen 360s returned at all over the last year and a half, and the managers confirmed it. Anecdotal? Yes. But still enough to raise doubts about the failure rate everyone keeps reporting.

I also think some of the failures have to do with people using the Nyko intercooler (I've been telling people to avoid it) and then denying it later, or not using common sense when it comes to good ventilation.

I've had it since March. No problem so far.

Mine died. Had to send it in. It was a launch console.

This is something a guy posted on the Xbox forum about the 360. Now I'm posting this to ask you guys if what he says seems logical at all.

I wish someone can construct a scientific test on the Xbox 360 thermal temperatures with and without the additional heatsink, because most likely the temperature drop on the overall console will most likely be from 1-3 degrees with the additional heatsink.
I have a feeling the additional heatsink only extends the death of the Xbox 360 because the motherboard does'nt remain sturdy forever. The heat that is still generated from the GPU will start warping the motherboard after a year and a half or so. The heatsink is bringing the heat to a new area weakening more parts of the motherboard like the ram chips which can loosen from the motherboard, the weakened motherboard will start to give out and allow the GPU to warp the motherboard all over again but this time the process will be slower. So yes the heatsink works but it only extends the death of the Xbox 360. The heat from the GPU is still hot enough regardless of added heatsink, you need a bigger case and a larger heatsink. Why don't you see heatsinks linked to other heatsinks in other electronics? If you construct a chip that runs hot you construct a large heatsink that can allow alot of hot air to rise and then be expelled by fans.
The solution to the 3 red lights is a much bigger case for more ventilation, bigger GPU heatsink not an additional, stronger bigger exhaust fans, and more space between the GPU and CPU.

What do you guys think?

This is something a guy posted on the Xbox forum about the 360. Now I'm posting this to ask you guys if what he says seems logical at all.

I wish someone can construct a scientific test on the Xbox 360 thermal temperatures with and without the additional heatsink, because most likely the temperature drop on the overall console will most likely be from 1-3 degrees with the additional heatsink.
I have a feeling the additional heatsink only extends the death of the Xbox 360 because the motherboard does'nt remain sturdy forever. The heat that is still generated from the GPU will start warping the motherboard after a year and a half or so. The heatsink is bringing the heat to a new area weakening more parts of the motherboard like the ram chips which can loosen from the motherboard, the weakened motherboard will start to give out and allow the GPU to warp the motherboard all over again but this time the process will be slower. So yes the heatsink works but it only extends the death of the Xbox 360. The heat from the GPU is still hot enough regardless of added heatsink, you need a bigger case and a larger heatsink. Why don't you see heatsinks linked to other heatsinks in other electronics? If you construct a chip that runs hot you construct a large heatsink that can allow alot of hot air to rise and then be expelled by fans.
The solution to the 3 red lights is a much bigger case for more ventilation, bigger GPU heatsink not an additional, stronger bigger exhaust fans, and more space between the GPU and CPU.

What do you guys think?

WCWUSCHAMPION50

IMO stronger fans will do the trick. I keep my 360s air exhaust temp. below 90 degrees with a home made intercooler setup.It is now over 19 months old and still working perfect.

Still on my first,no problems yet.

[QUOTE="WCWUSCHAMPION50"]

This is something a guy posted on the Xbox forum about the 360. Now I'm posting this to ask you guys if what he says seems logical at all.

I wish someone can construct a scientific test on the Xbox 360 thermal temperatures with and without the additional heatsink, because most likely the temperature drop on the overall console will most likely be from 1-3 degrees with the additional heatsink.
I have a feeling the additional heatsink only extends the death of the Xbox 360 because the motherboard does'nt remain sturdy forever. The heat that is still generated from the GPU will start warping the motherboard after a year and a half or so. The heatsink is bringing the heat to a new area weakening more parts of the motherboard like the ram chips which can loosen from the motherboard, the weakened motherboard will start to give out and allow the GPU to warp the motherboard all over again but this time the process will be slower. So yes the heatsink works but it only extends the death of the Xbox 360. The heat from the GPU is still hot enough regardless of added heatsink, you need a bigger case and a larger heatsink. Why don't you see heatsinks linked to other heatsinks in other electronics? If you construct a chip that runs hot you construct a large heatsink that can allow alot of hot air to rise and then be expelled by fans.
The solution to the 3 red lights is a much bigger case for more ventilation, bigger GPU heatsink not an additional, stronger bigger exhaust fans, and more space between the GPU and CPU.

What do you guys think?

rrjim1

IMO stronger fans will do the trick. I keep my 360s air exhaust temp. below 90 degrees with a home made intercooler setup.It is now over 19 months old and still working perfect.

Well I'm not planning on using any intercoolers as I don't have any faith in those at all. But what scares me is his statement on: the heatsink works but it only extends the death of the Xbox 360

I was worried and both pissed off as I read that because I had so much faith in the 65nm chip coming. And now this guy pretty much popped my balloon of hope after reading that. So in his assumption these problems will not stop, they are just going to be postponed for a while later.And so this 65nm chip is just a waste of time to even make then.

damn straight, just keep in open space

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obviously that doesnt always work... i am on my 3rd.. and i have mine in open space with great circulatioin... hopefully i can stay on my 3rd from here on out... wish i was on my first...

[QUOTE="rrjim1"][QUOTE="WCWUSCHAMPION50"]

This is something a guy posted on the Xbox forum about the 360. Now I'm posting this to ask you guys if what he says seems logical at all.

I wish someone can construct a scientific test on the Xbox 360 thermal temperatures with and without the additional heatsink, because most likely the temperature drop on the overall console will most likely be from 1-3 degrees with the additional heatsink.
I have a feeling the additional heatsink only extends the death of the Xbox 360 because the motherboard does'nt remain sturdy forever. The heat that is still generated from the GPU will start warping the motherboard after a year and a half or so. The heatsink is bringing the heat to a new area weakening more parts of the motherboard like the ram chips which can loosen from the motherboard, the weakened motherboard will start to give out and allow the GPU to warp the motherboard all over again but this time the process will be slower. So yes the heatsink works but it only extends the death of the Xbox 360. The heat from the GPU is still hot enough regardless of added heatsink, you need a bigger case and a larger heatsink. Why don't you see heatsinks linked to other heatsinks in other electronics? If you construct a chip that runs hot you construct a large heatsink that can allow alot of hot air to rise and then be expelled by fans.
The solution to the 3 red lights is a much bigger case for more ventilation, bigger GPU heatsink not an additional, stronger bigger exhaust fans, and more space between the GPU and CPU.

What do you guys think?

WCWUSCHAMPION50

IMO stronger fans will do the trick. I keep my 360s air exhaust temp. below 90 degrees with a home made intercooler setup.It is now over 19 months old and still working perfect.

Well I'm not planning on using any intercoolers as I don't have any faith in those at all. But what scares me is his statement on: the heatsink works but it only extends the death of the Xbox 360

I was worried and both pissed off as I read that because I had so much faith in the 65nm chip coming. And now this guy pretty much popped my balloon of hope after reading that. So in his assumption these problems will not stop, they are just going to be postponed for a while later.