Anyone else dissapointed by the GOW3 beta?

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#1 Solid_Tango
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I ve been playing today for around 4 hrs. The graphics are ok, i like that they are more colorfull this time around! I also liked what they did with some levels ( the desert storm and that thing falling off in the football field) but the gameplay it´s same old same old since gow1... not saying that it is bad but it feels boring and bit outdated comparing it with games like Uncharted and dead space :/ The weapons are very shallow in my opinion, its all about run and gunshot :/

Anyways i will probably be picking it up at lunch but i was expecting more than just a graphics update :(

If you guys wanna hit me up my tag is: Solid_Tango on live as well

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#2 Gen007
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well IDK what you expected its gears and its not like the their gonna completely change the game for a sequel. Imo it's great and the improved a lot. For one mainly is the lag is next to gone for the most part and makes the game much more enjoyable. Now i know there was supposed to be servers but there's still host migration so idk what the deal is but its generally a lag free exp. The graphics are better and the frame rate is smoother. They've also increased the speed from gears 2 so its much faster.

It's baffling when you say that it feels outdated compared to dead space and uncharted when those games have taken ideas from gears. Gears has a wide diversity of weapons ranging from the standard(shot gun, assault rifle) to the unique like the torque bow and digger launcher. They made the lancer more deadly this time around so people cant complain about it being a shotgun game since the lancer is actually much more useful.

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#3 Flamingpostman
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you cant really judge the game on how the gameplay is the same as all the other games. look at call of duty. that gameplay hasnt changed at all. but its just a beta and it great in my opinion they just have to tweak a couple things with how powerful some of the weapons are.

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#4 orb_03_2006
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I'll admit that it's not much TOTALLY new in the Gears universe. We have the same gameplay, but with a few new guns/modifications and maps. But what makes it so amazing, IMO, is that it's what it should have been all along. I feel that they finally fixed it. I realized that this is the fun I should have been having all along in Gears MP.
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#5 YoungSinatra25
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You lost me at Dead Space. Dead Space is not a MP game. I know DS2 has it but it's still not a good comparison to Gears.

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#6 mrsniper83
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I enjoyed the game, i wasnt into the multiplayer (except for horde)in the last gears but this made me want to get the game and play more deathmatch.
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Shotguns shouldn't have such a deadly ****ing spread, but besides that its fun. Have yet to play on an HDTV. I'm pretty bad at Gears of War in general :P
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#8 sk8erwarlock
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Even if its the beta, its amazingly fun
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#9 Rich1631
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I thought it sucked also to be honest. It is a still a shotgun cluster**** just like the other two. Since long range combat is useless because of the weak assualt rifles and cover sytem, it just results in 2 or 3 people all within like 5 feet of each other spraying and praying with a shotgun. Boring, reptitive, and not fun. It always bothered me that the assualt rifles are not only weak as hell but they can't get a headshot, yet you can with the shotgun? WHY? I played it for about 2 or 3 hours then deleted it. I dunno I just find it so clunky and dull. Not enough weapons, the cover is too sticky, and I want to play tactically and in order to do that I don't want to run up to people and roll around like a moron spamming a shotgun which is what everone does! I wish you could also take people down from afar who are hiding in the cover system by popping their heads off with an assualt rifle or dowing them as they are roadie running around but since the lancer shoots gumdrops you can't do it. PLUS the amount of kill stealing is beyond annoying.

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#10 Kaze_no_Mirai
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I can never get a kill with the sawed off shotgun, :(
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#11 vashkey
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I disagree. The graphics are more than okay, they're amoung the best you'll see on the 360. And I feel they change plenty. And hell, the gun play is deeper here than it was in the last game. They added more weapons spawn choices and bloom. I think it's pretty sllly to be disappointed that Gears 3 plays like a Gears game.
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I thought it sucked also to be honest. It is a still a shotgun cluster**** just like the other two. Since long range combat is useless because of the weak assualt rifles and cover sytem, it just results in 2 or 3 people all within like 5 feet of each other spraying and praying with a shotgun. Boring, reptitive, and not fun. It always bothered me that the assualt rifles are not only weak as hell but they can't get a headshot, yet you can with the shotgun? WHY? I played it for about 2 or 3 hours then deleted it. I dunno I just find it so clunky and dull. Not enough weapons, the cover is too sticky, and I want to play tactically and in order to do that I don't want to run up to people and roll around like a moron spamming a shotgun which is what everone does! I wish you could also take people down from afar who are hiding in the cover system by popping their heads off with an assualt rifle or dowing them as they are roadie running around but since the lancer shoots gumdrops you can't do it. PLUS the amount of kill stealing is beyond annoying.

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this is disappointing, although not really surprising. sounds exactly like gears 2. if gears 3 is at least lag free it'll be alright, but i think that's pretty much would ppl should be expecting
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#13 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Am I the only one thats has problems with the spawning? Many times I've spawned right in front of an enemy, and if your enemy knows your teams spawn point they can easily kill you.
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#14 vashkey
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Am I the only one thats has problems with the spawning? Many times I've spawned right in front of an enemy, and if your enemy knows your teams spawn point they can easily kill you.Kaze_no_Mirai
I always felt that it was balanced out by the fact that they'd have to get through you to get you your spawns. If they were able to make it past your entire team... well, you only have your selves to blame. Besides, you can spawn with a double barrel. If it's like Gears 2 then there should also be a short period of invincibility right after you spawn so that they can't kill you immediately. Honestly the only time I ever see this as an issue in the Gears 3 beta is when you're team is nearly out of live and the enemy team has all the power weapons... But again. it's not the game's fault your team allowed that.
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#15 Gen007
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[QUOTE="Rich1631"]

I thought it sucked also to be honest. It is a still a shotgun cluster**** just like the other two. Since long range combat is useless because of the weak assualt rifles and cover system, it just results in 2 or 3 people all within like 5 feet of each other spraying and praying with a shotgun. Boring, reptitive, and not fun. It always bothered me that the assault rifles are not only weak as hell but they can't get a headshot, yet you can with the shotgun? WHY? I played it for about 2 or 3 hours then deleted it. I dunno I just find it so clunky and dull. Not enough weapons, the cover is too sticky, and I want to play tactically and in order to do that I don't want to run up to people and roll around like a moron spamming a shotgun which is what everone does! I wish you could also take people down from afar who are hiding in the cover system by popping their heads off with an assualt rifle or dowing them as they are roadie running around but since the lancer shoots gumdrops you can't do it. PLUS the amount of kill stealing is beyond annoying.

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this is disappointing, although not really surprising. sounds exactly like gears 2. if gears 3 is at least lag free it'll be alright, but i think that's pretty much would ppl should be expecting

Anyone that says that long range combat in the beta is useless has never played it or has not played it enough. If anything the lancer needs to be nerfed especially the retro lancer it will easily beat out a gnasher and sawed off at med to long range. People complain about the sawed off but it only works at extremely close distances. You can easily destroy someone using it from a distance with a lancer and if you actually check corners instead of blindly walking around them youll be fine. There's nothing stopping anyone from playing tactically besides themselves.

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#16 balfe1990
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Lancer is underpowered.

Retro is useless at long range, too imprecise. Love the Bayonet though.

Sawed-off is fine. If you get killed by that, it's your own fault by getting too close.

Rarely used the HammerBurst.

But the Gnasher! OH GOD. The game gets very boring when both teams are rolling about with Gnashers and it's all about who-can-fire-from-the-hip-with-the most-accuracy-at-close-ranges.

More or less, every game descends into a Gnasher spamfest. Something needs to be done about that.

Generally lag is fine, although my bullets didn't register fast enough or at all on a number of occasions.

The betas good fun but it can be frustrating at times.

Also, GFX are top-notch, but that was to be expected.:D

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#17 Solid_Tango
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Yeah the assault guns at long rage are useless:/ This game does not suit my gaming tactics at all :S i m used to do the rambo and go on my own way to kill enemies but on this game i cant, i always have to be near a team mate, and that sucks because they almost always steal my kills :(
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I don't know how anyone can say that Gears gameplay is outdated compared to Uncharted and Dead Space. Uncharted is fun yes but you don't have anywhere near the mobility that you have in Gears. You can't roll and the cover system isn't anywhere near as good. And for the people complaining about the gnasher. You apparently haven't used the retro yet. It was made to counter the gnasher and will win just about everytime. As long as you know where your enemy is, you have the upper hand. If they rush you just hit them with it. The ridiculous damage it has and added stopping power you will down them instantly. If they get too close, just hipfire. The thing has insane accuracy from the hip. The only problems I see is that I think the damage actually needs to be reduced in the hammerburst and retro. If not then just take out stopping power. And they need to have dedicated servers up and running for everyone. Lets just say my connection this past week have been less than spectacular.
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#19 2pac_makaveli
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i wasnt having fun till i started playing king of the hill mode. i will get the game but mostly for the co-op campaign
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#20 Aaron89
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All I can say is ... I'm really enjoying the beta. It could use a few tweaks, sure, but Epic seems to be aware of them already and hopefully will be tweaked up for the final release.

They definitely got it right with this game. :)

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#21 Serial_Killa
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Was fun for the first hour but quickly became meh...same old shotgun fest.

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#22 deactivated-5c23908d36a7f
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TDM is kind of a let down, i hope they bring out normal warzone as a game mode in the full retail game. But KOTH is very fun. It runs so smoothly, encountered lag twice out of 26 matches.

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#23 Kaze_no_Mirai
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You apparently haven't used the retro yet. It was made to counter the gnasher and will win just about everytime. As long as you know where your enemy is, you have the upper hand. If they rush you just hit them with it. The ridiculous damage it has and added stopping power you will down them instantly. If they get too close, just hipfire. The thing has insane accuracy from the hiBiThBhE0
That is very true, the retro lancer is very strong
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#24 orb_03_2006
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And for the people complaining about the gnasher. You apparently haven't used the retro yet. It was made to counter the gnasher and will win just about everytime. As long as you know where your enemy is, you have the upper hand. If they rush you just hit them with it. The ridiculous damage it has and added stopping power you will down them instantly. If they get too close, just hipfire. The thing has insane accuracy from the hip.BiThBhE0
This. This right here. This guy understands, why can't anyone else? For those complaining about the shotgun, just read this. I hip fire the Retro when somebody with a Gnasher gets too close, and I can easily kill them.
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[QUOTE="BiThBhE0"] And for the people complaining about the gnasher. You apparently haven't used the retro yet. It was made to counter the gnasher and will win just about everytime. As long as you know where your enemy is, you have the upper hand. If they rush you just hit them with it. The ridiculous damage it has and added stopping power you will down them instantly. If they get too close, just hipfire. The thing has insane accuracy from the hip.orb_03_2006
This. This right here. This guy understands, why can't anyone else? For those complaining about the shotgun, just read this. I hip fire the Retro when somebody with a Gnasher gets too close, and I can easily kill them.

The problem is people don't just bum rush you. Everyone hides behind a corner and then pops out and insta-kills you when your run past.
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#26 WilliamRLBaker
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I'm mostly disapointed by fact they haven't been using dedicated servers since last monday I got to play one game with dedicated and it was like butter...now its all p2p since monday and frankly Epic has never in their life been capable of creating a efficient netcode so their p2p games blow.

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#27 AcidSoldner
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I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I'm not sure what you guys are talking about this being a "shotgun fest" as it is no where near as bad as in Gears 1 and 2. Rifles are finally a viable option in Gears multiplayer. The Retro is a bit powerful but its job is to counter the Gnasher. Try killing someone with a Retro at medium or even long range, it isn't gonna happen. The Lancer is pretty good at medium range and is can be deadly at close range in the right hands. And then there's the Hammerburst, if you can control your shots and recoil, this gun will destroy any shotgun rolling bum-rusher before they even get close enough to fire off a shot. Aside from a few minor tweaks, I think the weapon balance is near perfect.
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#28 Talldude80
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I ve been playing today for around 4 hrs. The graphics are ok, i like that they are more colorfull this time around! I also liked what they did with some levels ( the desert storm and that thing falling off in the football field) but the gameplay it´s same old same old since gow1... not saying that it is bad but it feels boring and bit outdated comparing it with games like Uncharted and dead space :/ The weapons are very shallow in my opinion, its all about run and gunshot :/

Anyways i will probably be picking it up at lunch but i was expecting more than just a graphics update :(

If you guys wanna hit me up my tag is: Solid_Tango on live as well

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LOL. You're dissapointed, BUT still probably picking it up at launch? you must be really addicted to Gears OR you're really not that disapointed. It's still an xbox360 game, so I dont see how you'd expect the graphics to change much. if you're really disapointed, just rent the game. then decide.

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#29 Zophar87
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I am mostly disappointed in all the CoD noobs that keep running and gunning. Yeah, that doesn't apply here, you will die every single time.

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#30 Poncho_Hachacha
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This is the internet. There's always going to be dissapointed fans. I should know. I'm usually one of them.

As for GOW3 beta, I haven't played it yet. I'll have to hold off on my dissapointment until then.

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#31 balfe1990
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Disregard my previous post.

I played a few games of KOTH and I'm am now officially in love with the beta.

I've learnt to use all the weapons appropriately and now when I die, it's usually my fault and not the fault of imperfect weapon balance..

I seriously never thought I would like aTPS MP but there you have it.

I was originally getting this game purely for Single-player/Co-op/Horde/Beast mode and was never planning on touching the Competitive MP, like I didn't with Gears 1 and 2, but I'm looking forward to the retailreleases MP now.:D

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#32 Anabub
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I have never been a big fan of Gears I have never really seen the appeal so lets get that out of the way right away ...

It is thou nice to see people agreeing with what feel is pretty wrong with this game ... I agree that the mechanics dont really seem to have changed at ll ... the cover is still sticky and it feels very clunky at times. If a match isn't about shotguns it's normally about the power weapons and who gets to those first.

The graphics whilst nicely coloured still aren't all that and most people just seem to get off on all the blood etc ... get mortal kombat if thats your bag honestly!

Other things such as party members ending up in different teams is also a little odd but the spawning really needs an overhaul IMO ... I have spawned and died far to often or spawned in the middle of the enemy team etc The worst thou was last night where I swear i actually spawned on the end of someones lancer ... i was waiting one second, next second I was being thrust in the air!!

As for the kill stealing ... why oh why do they not impliment the COD system the recently put in place .... when a downed player is downed regardless of who gets the kill they receive an assist and the person that downed them gets the kill ... simple!!

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#33 orb_03_2006
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[QUOTE="orb_03_2006"][QUOTE="BiThBhE0"] And for the people complaining about the gnasher. You apparently haven't used the retro yet. It was made to counter the gnasher and will win just about everytime. As long as you know where your enemy is, you have the upper hand. If they rush you just hit them with it. The ridiculous damage it has and added stopping power you will down them instantly. If they get too close, just hipfire. The thing has insane accuracy from the hip.firefox59
This. This right here. This guy understands, why can't anyone else? For those complaining about the shotgun, just read this. I hip fire the Retro when somebody with a Gnasher gets too close, and I can easily kill them.

The problem is people don't just bum rush you. Everyone hides behind a corner and then pops out and insta-kills you when your run past.

I'm guilty of this lol. BUT, it's only when I'm by myself defending the hill in KotH. When two guys are rushing the hill, that's when my Sawed Off is the best.
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#35 Hickamie14
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I'm not disappointed at all. In fact, it's much better than I expected. No lag, no Host Advantage, good maps, awesome new weapons....Definitely a day one purchase for me.